ppt billet 72ar stroker build

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Hey everyone this build has been going on for sometime, what was supposed to be a simple drop in rod build with the minimum has snowballed into what you see before you

the turbo kit finally arrived last week with some other things and the machine shop has the majority of everything at the moment and should be getting everything back in a little.

I want to thank my friend pat for his help/guidance and overall direction of this build.

here is the list of everything:


Mods:
42dd pillar gauge pods
AEM boost gauge
AEM Wideband
Pagparts SS Vbanded turbo kit
Rerouted wastegate dump
Tial MVS 38mm wastegate
Pagparts downpipe
Race catalytic converter
Garrett gt3071
pagparts 72ar housing
pagparts new 71bb billet wheel
Pagparts FMIC routed for SEM manifold
Tial Q 50mm BOV
Milltek 2.5 catback
FSI forged crank
Oil pump gear for crank
JE 9.5:1 83.5mm stroker pistons
IE rifledrilled connecting rods
Calico rod bearings
Calico main bearings
New thrust bearings
New cam chain
New cam chain tensioner
New oil pump
New oil pump chain
New oil pump chain tensioner
Gates racing timing belt
IE manual timing tensioner kit
AEB head
Full supertech valvetrain:
Inconel single groove intake valves
Single groove exhaust valves
Spring/Titanium retainer set
valve guides
New OEM lifters
SEM bigport intake manifold
034 motorsports phenolic spacer
75mm throttle body
INA throttle body adapter plate
Gruven parts billet dipstick and funnel
Quaife LSD with install kit
Clutchmasters fx400 6puck with steel flywheel
42dd ultimate catchcan
Unitronic or Eurodyne software
EV14 635cc @4bar injectors (soon to be 8xxcc)
83.5mm overbore gasket
Bosch 044 fuel pump
IE surge tank
Fluidampr crank pulley
ARP crank bolt
ARP hardware throughout
Autotech polished fuel rail
Elring gasket kit
New front/rear seals
BFI assembled motor mounts and dogbone mount
IE dowel kit
IE IECVA3 intake cam

I do not have pictures of everything, and I'm sure I forgot some parts in the list oh well

On to some pictures!!

















































Any questions I'll try to answer the best that I can, and any guidance or help along the way will be greatly appreciated!!

[Weehe]

Looks like an amazing build, and really nice looking car man. Will be following this.

[All_Euro]

on the 83.5 bore.

[Big_Tom]

[Dave926]

No ****ing around with a parts list like that

[Gonzo@GonzoTuning]

[DUBBED-OUT]

It seem like you copied wish list...

NICEEE!

[David_Tedder]

just like tom said to me , "blowing money fast!"

great choice on parts all round pal

its going to turn out real nice

[l88m22vette]

More clutch info please! As for entire project:

[AmIdYfReAk]

on the 83.5 bore.

Holy****... i had to read that twice....

Someone is confident on German metal enough to go with paper thin cyl walls... Good on ya

[Vegeta Gti]

love my fx400

make sure to do a good thorough break in on everything. i did motor build, diff, clutch, etc all at once. very specific break in procedure and it was perfect.

happy building

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[01ttgt28]

I love builds

[screwball]

I need this in a B5 Avant! Definitely going with Arnold for an Audi build once my GTI is sold or parted out.

Looking forward to seeing updates on how that turbo does.

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Looks like an amazing build, and really nice looking car man. Will be following this.

I appreciate that, it has been a lot of work

on the 83.5 bore.

No ****ing around with a parts list like that

, I have tried to think of everything

It seem like you copied wish list...

NICEEE!

Thank you

just like tom said to me , "blowing money fast!"

great choice on parts all round pal

its going to turn out real nice

yeah I definately broke my initial budget, hopefully the outcome is amazing

More clutch info please! As for entire project:

great pic, honestly I have never had an fx400, I purchased it after research and reading reviews...I will write a review after the break in and let you know how it goes

Holy****... i had to read that twice....

Someone is confident on German metal enough to go with paper thin cyl walls... Good on ya

hopefully that desicion does not come back to haunt me

love my fx400

make sure to do a good thorough break in on everything. i did motor build, diff, clutch, etc all at once. very specific break in procedure and it was perfect.

happy building

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actually if you do not mind giving me a little info on this I would appreciate it, I am aware of normal break in procedures, but figured adding my dif and clutch break in into the mix at the same time complicates the process

I love builds

I need this in a B5 Avant! Definitely going with Arnold for an Audi build once my GTI is sold or parted out.

Looking forward to seeing updates on how that turbo does.

I am more than pleased with the quality of the parts I recieved from him and am very excited to see how his new billet wheel performs

[Gonzo@GonzoTuning]

honestly I have never had an fx400, I purchased it after research and reading reviews...I will write a review after the break in and let you know how it goes

Did you get the street version? I have a local guy running a GTX3071R on it with my tune and 30psi and it works great. It actually feels very stock like, too. I love it.

[Gulfstream]

I have FX400 6 puck as well and honestly can't fail it. Couldn't be happier

[T-Boy]

Nice build...can't wait to see the outcome.

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Did you get the street version? I have a local guy running a GTX3071R on it with my tune and 30psi and it works great. It actually feels very stock like, too. I love it.

30psi! that has got to be a fun car, that is what i had been reading that it should have a somewhat stock feel...Iam assuming when you ask street version you mean 6 or 4 puck, so I would say yes I have the street version with the 6 puck

I have FX400 6 puck as well and honestly can't fail it. Couldn't be happier

that is good to hear, I had been reading a bunch of the reviews and that was the general theme thanks for the added input it is added peace of mind

Nice build...can't wait to see the outcome.

you and me both

[Gonzo@GonzoTuning]

30psi! that has got to be a fun car, that is what i had been reading that it should have a somewhat stock feel...Iam assuming when you ask street version you mean 6 or 4 puck, so I would say yes I have the street version with the 6 puck

Yes its the 6 puck version. Its really great.
Its a fun turbo but you outgrow it quick (depending on who you talk to).

[87vr6]

Pretty close to my build, except I have the .72 GTX3076... Check it out in my link...

And I love driving that FX400 in my 20th

[rains]

watching this thread

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Yes its the 6 puck version. Its really great.
Its a fun turbo but you outgrow it quick (depending on who you talk to).

outgrow!? hopefully that does not happen to me, at least for awhile

Pretty close to my build, except I have the .72 GTX3076... Check it out in my link...

And I love driving that FX400 in my 20th

haha, that is awesome, they are very similar except a few things...although that pallet that you had shipped in makes a huge difference between the two

watching this thread

Still waiting for the machine shop to finish my block/head, I will be going in on Monday to hopefully get some good news that it is near completion...

Got my big port phenolic spacer as well as the tb adapter plate thanks to INA





also received my 42dd pillar pod



and my aem gauge

[87vr6]

haha, that is awesome, they are very similar except a few things...although that pallet that you had shipped in makes a huge difference between the two

Yes it does, doesn't it?? Well, there, it's a very welcome difference. Looking forward to seeing yours progress.

[Cryser]

I'm wondering why your Manifold has my last name on it? ROFL

interestingly enough I just got my 72ar GT3071r and new head on and in my car, buttoning everything up tomorrow then doing some PVC mock up for my new hot side piping then I'll be ordering up some pipe bends and couplers to finally get this damn thing running!

Looks good so far! Very interested to see how the billet wheel works with the 72 ar! I unfortunately just got a regular wheel as I couldn't spring for both the 72ar and the wheel

[Rumpelstilzchen]

Yes it does, doesn't it?? Well, there, it's a very welcome difference. Looking forward to seeing yours progress.

Yes, and I shall be looking forward to your conversion

I'm wondering why your Manifold has my last name on it? ROFL

interestingly enough I just got my 72ar GT3071r and new head on and in my car, buttoning everything up tomorrow then doing some PVC mock up for my new hot side piping then I'll be ordering up some pipe bends and couplers to finally get this damn thing running!

Looks good so far! Very interested to see how the billet wheel works with the 72 ar! I unfortunately just got a regular wheel as I couldn't spring for both the 72ar and the wheel

I coud not find a build thread on your setup...what are your specs? as for the manifold I have no idea, I guess I stole your manifold

[Cryser]

I don't have a build thread, Im horrible at taking pictures mid project. Once I jump into something and the gears start turning in my head I just keep going. Hell people have to remind me to eat when I'm working on cars or especially tuning I just lose track of time

2.0 Stroker from Arnold
Balanced rods and pistons to within 0.5 gram of each other
Blueprinted the block, decked the block
Cnc ported the block for the 83mm pistons
Balanced AEG crank to within 0.1 gram on both sides
Fluidampr w/ IE crank bolt
Coated calico bearings for rods and crank
Full ARP hardware all around the block
IE stroker headgasket
Blueprinted AEB head decked the head
Shimmed valves where needed with supertech .030 shims from IE
Supertech valve train, valves, springs(dual exhaust springs, single intake) Ti retainers,
Recut all the valve seats with a 3angle + radius cutter
Deshrouded all the valves, vacuum tested to all hold at least 18inHG
Port matched the Exhaust ports
Stock lifters and Cams
IE manual tensioner
Gates kevlar timing belt
I have an adjustable cat cams cam gear but I didn't like the tiny bent roller pin they try to pass off as a keyway so I am using the stock cam gear

PagParts 71R V-Banded kit with .72 AR housing, cast wheel
S4 MAF once I have the money for it
550cc injectors @ 4bar static fuel pressure
APR in tank Fuel pump feeding a bosch 044 inline pump
All self tuned on Maestro

My community college has a blueprinting and machining class where I learned to do all work and performed all the work myself, kinda snowballed in all the listed after I opened up the engine and realized how much better parts you can get for "just a little more"

[Rumpelstilzchen]

I don't have a build thread, Im horrible at taking pictures mid project. Once I jump into something and the gears start turning in my head I just keep going. Hell people have to remind me to eat when I'm working on cars or especially tuning I just lose track of time
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That is a fantastic spec list, it really is a shame you did not make a build thread for that! Our builds are similar it will be interesting to see what the billet vs. cast wheel shows, what intake mani are you planning on running? it seems you and I are planning on the same injectors at 4bar do you have the EV14 as well? I'm still debating if I should make the jump to 8xx cc or stay with these, I am just unsure whether they will be enough or not

[04 GLI Luva]

Static fuel pressure interesting

[Cryser]

That is a fantastic spec list, it really is a shame you did not make a build thread for that! Our builds are similar it will be interesting to see what the billet vs. cast wheel shows, what intake mani are you planning on running? it seems you and I are planning on the same injectors at 4bar do you have the EV14 as well? I'm still debating if I should make the jump to 8xx cc or stay with these, I am just unsure whether they will be enough or not

Yeah I'm thinking I'm gonna be RIGHT on the line with the 550cc might have to go up to the new Genesis II 630cc @ 4bar or see about reworking the stock fuel lines to handle 5bar. yeah EV14's for me and for intake manifold I'm running stock right now, going to most likely a driver side big port one in the future. Probably a 034 or IE one, depends on funds and such

Static fuel pressure interesting

by static I meant a base pressure, it will be rising with boost as normal

[groggory]

Yeah I'm thinking I'm gonna be RIGHT on the line with the 550cc might have to go up to the new Genesis II 630cc @ 4bar or see about reworking the stock fuel lines to handle 5bar. yeah EV14's for me and for intake manifold I'm running stock right now, going to most likely a driver side big port one in the future. Probably a 034 or IE one, depends on funds and such



by static I meant a base pressure, it will be rising with boost as normal

What do you mean tweak the stock lines to handle 4 BAR base pressure? That's no big deal. I think you're set to go!

[Cryser]

What do you mean tweak the stock lines to handle 4 BAR base pressure? That's no big deal. I think you're set to go!

yeah 4 bar is fine, but I remember talking to scott from USRT about running 5 bar stock pressure and him saying something about the stock lines because restrictive at that pressure + 25 PSi of boost, gotta see if I still have the E-mail

[BR_337]

watching

[groggory]

yeah 4 bar is fine, but I remember talking to scott from USRT about running 5 bar stock pressure and him saying something about the stock lines because restrictive at that pressure + 25 PSi of boost, gotta see if I still have the E-mail

I was talking to the guy at my local speed shop about this and I don't see you running into a flow problem. The stock lines are equivalent to -5AN, which can flow just fine. However, I'm wondering if running these high fuel pressures are safe on the type of connections.

5 BAR = 72.5 PSI
Then let's say you're tossing in 30 pounds of boost...that brings us to 102.5 PSI
Then let's say you have 5 PSI of losses in the stock lines... that brings us up to 107.5 PSI fuel pressure. That's 7.4 BAR fuel pressure.

That's a lot of pressure!!

I don't think I would trust the factory Bundy clamps at those pressures.

[Gulfstream]

Also look at your fuel pump flow at 7 bar. Thats why I stick with 3 bar base pressure and up injector size instead.

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[AL@PagParts.com]

Also look at your fuel pump flow at 7 bar. Thats why I stick with 3 bar base pressure and up injector size instead.

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