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Thread: My girl just bought a '12 GTI!! how did we do?

  1. 10-05-2012 11:48 PM #1
    My girl just signed the papers on a '12 GTI today!

    Base, Tornado red, DSG, 4 Door.

    Got it 200 under invoice. We payed 25,249. MSRP was 26,435.
    0% for 66 months. Dealer threw in monster mats, first aid, and Car-Go blocks!

    How did we do?

    Were real excited about it. She loves it. Heres a pic!


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    10-06-2012 12:09 AM #2
    As long as you're happy who cares!

  3. 10-06-2012 12:26 AM #3
    True! But the inner cheapass in me is wondering how well we did.

    Yeah its awesome. cant wait to get a chip and a good CAI on it. Want to hear more of that turbo goodness.

    Only wish it had the bi-xenons!

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    I recognize that Imports by Day sticker! I get my service done there all the time, welcome to club!

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    10-06-2012 10:53 AM #6
    You did good, it looks good, out in the mountains, the leaves are turning, enjoy it.

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    10-06-2012 01:29 PM #7
    i just got my 2 door 2013 like 2 weeks ago for $23,500

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    10-06-2012 01:40 PM #8
    Got mine for the same price, mats , first aid, blocks all included and same 0% congrats enjoy!

  9. 10-06-2012 01:47 PM #9
    Why do people go out and buy a car and then come on a forum and ask 'did I get a good deal'?
    What's the point?

    If it's really important to you, you should have posted before you signed. Otherwise, the deal is the deal. Enjoy your car.

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    10-06-2012 02:44 PM #10
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  11. 10-06-2012 02:49 PM #11
    Considering the '13s are already out, I'd say you got an alright deal. You already lost 1 year of depreciation. Just sayin'... I know, they're the same car, won't matter in the long run, yadda yadda yadda. Just enjoy the ride!

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    10-07-2012 01:34 AM #13
    Congrats! I paid exactly 200 below invoice as well!
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  14. 10-07-2012 04:46 PM #14
    Quote Originally Posted by fredf View Post
    Why do people go out and buy a car and then come on a forum and ask 'did I get a good deal'?
    What's the point?

    If it's really important to you, you should have posted before you signed. Otherwise, the deal is the deal. Enjoy your car.
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  15. 10-07-2012 04:49 PM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by malice9999 View Post
    Considering the '13s are already out, I'd say you got an alright deal. You already lost 1 year of depreciation. Just sayin'... I know, they're the same car, won't matter in the long run, yadda yadda yadda. Just enjoy the ride!
    I don't agree. Unless they keep the car for like 10 years, that one extra model year will always be there to haunt them when they sell the car.
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    10-07-2012 11:26 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by But Officer.... View Post
    I don't agree. Unless they keep the car for like 10 years, that one extra model year will always be there to haunt them when they sell the car.
    ^ this.

    OP bought a '12 AFTER the '13's were already released and on the lot. They could have easily stepped into a new 2013 base model for basically the same price. I think the dealer should have knocked off quite a bit more than $200 on a '12...I mean it WAS already a model year old before they drove off the lot.

    A quick look on KBB says you basically paid the Dealer Invoice price at approximately $25,437. Fair Purchase price would have been closer to $24,800 on a 2012. That's their consumer price. Probably could have saved another $450 bucks if you pushed even a little bit. Or you could have paid $450 more and gotten a 2013 base GTI.
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  17. 10-08-2012 01:25 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by VW/CW View Post
    ^ this.

    OP bought a '12 AFTER the '13's were already released and on the lot. They could have easily stepped into a new 2013 base model for basically the same price. I think the dealer should have knocked off quite a bit more than $200 on a '12...I mean it WAS already a model year old before they drove off the lot.

    A quick look on KBB says you basically paid the Dealer Invoice price at approximately $25,437. Fair Purchase price would have been closer to $24,800 on a 2012. That's their consumer price. Probably could have saved another $450 bucks if you pushed even a little bit. Or you could have paid $450 more and gotten a 2013 base GTI.
    2013's dont have 0%. Plus its an identical car, who cares.

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    10-08-2012 09:26 AM #18
    the invoice price doesn't matter as much as the actual price the dealership paid for the car. i think you could have pushed to get more off the car. but the 0% and the fact that you're happy is what really counts.
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    10-10-2012 11:45 AM #19
    $200 below invoice isn't really the point. 0% for 66 months is saving another $1500 vs 2% which is the best rate you'd get on a 2013, assuming you qualify.

    Used car values are all about specs, mileage and condition. Drive it 4 years and that model year won't matter so much. A low mileage 2012 in great condition will be worth a similar amount as an average mileage 2013 in the same condition. (If both cars were driven the average annual mileage of 15k per year, both cars will have 45k miles on them, the 2012 is 15k below average for its year). I just checked KBB for a 2007 vs 2008, both with same trim and mileage - the difference was $600.

    VW (and most other car) buyers are screwed for deals at the moment. September was the best month for VW sales in forever, something like a 40% year on year increase. Most manufacturers had really strong sales (iirc, Ford may have been an exception). There is a lack of inventory of both new and quality used cars compared to the long term average, a result of reduced supply over the past 4 years.

    Is $200 below invoice with 0% a great deal? I don't know - other recent buyers of similar trim will have to chime in. FWIW, I just bought a spotless used 2012 autobahn with 6k miles for $26k at 2%. KBB has it valued at $28.5k, so I'm happy. The previous owner thoughtfully applied Laminex too.

    Edit - if you look at my vehicle history, you might guess that the used value of my car isn't high on my priorities.

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    10-10-2012 12:49 PM #20
    You did good. 0% over financing period is what you want. The $ you get to keep in your pocket, over the year number being 2013 on the car, is way better. Enjoy and welcome to the TR club
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    10-10-2012 09:13 PM #21
    Red GTIs get bigger discounts, since noone wants them. You did well.
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    10-11-2012 10:17 AM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by chamster View Post
    Red GTIs get bigger discounts, since noone wants them. You did well.
    You must have sold cars before.......
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  23. 10-11-2012 12:34 PM #23
    You got a brand new, german turbo sports car that many say is the best car in general on the market (Top Gear), for $25k. Know of any other car from any car maker that can offer you that? $400 here/there, makes little difference and you probably made someone's own family table that much better for it. At the end of the day, it's tough to buy anything brand-new that even comes close to the GTI for $25k. As nearly all car reviewer will attest to (youtube it for proof), the GTI is the highwater mark, the car to beat, when it comes to the total overall package offering. I paid over $30k for my 2013 Autobahn, and have not one single thread of regret or hesitation. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

    Don't worry about depreciation. Until the new model comes out and the verdict by the market is one of "it's so much better" is clear, none of us are in real jeapordy of taking significant depreciation hits on our cars. Verdict is still out on the MKVII too. It's not like a Nissan Maxima, where every 3 years they release a totally different vehicle that essentially wipes out the old one. Talk about depreciation hits...buy a Nissan! Back in 2001, I leased a fully loaded Maxima. In 2002 they put the new 3.5 engine in it and new head lights. In 2004, the residual on mine was $14,800. I couldn't give it away for that price and turned it back in. VW isn't like that.

    You did just fine Go enjoy that GTI on what looks like some fun GTI roads!
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  24. 10-11-2012 05:59 PM #24
    $25,200. 2012 Tornado Red 4-door Sunroof & Conv. 6 Sp manual.
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  25. 10-11-2012 09:18 PM #25
    Quote Originally Posted by nc211 View Post
    You got a brand new, german turbo sports car that many say is the best car in general on the market (Top Gear), for $25k. Know of any other car from any car maker that can offer you that? $400 here/there, makes little difference and you probably made someone's own family table that much better for it. At the end of the day, it's tough to buy anything brand-new that even comes close to the GTI for $25k. As nearly all car reviewer will attest to (youtube it for proof), the GTI is the highwater mark, the car to beat, when it comes to the total overall package offering.
    The fine folks over at the ft86 forums might think otherwise...they seem to rip on the gti for everything, "but its a heavy pig" despite being only 200lbs heavier...that being the sound deading material the frs doesn't have. The frs is a half second faster around xx track with a professional driver.

    But I got my gti for about 5k cheaper than I could have ever got an frs. I feel I made the right choice and certain you did too.

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    10-11-2012 10:13 PM #26
    congrats!
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  27. 10-11-2012 10:26 PM #27
    Yeah, we are loving it. I come from a B5 A4, and this thing feels like a rocketship compared to it. And the DSG gearbox is incredible. Coming from someone who swears by 6 speed manuals, that says a lot.

    no regrets!

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    10-13-2012 11:36 AM #28
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    10-13-2012 03:08 PM #29
    As long as you guys are happy with the deal and the car, that's all it matter. But honestly, you could have gotten a better price. The new 2012 GTI 6spd with nav (one below the autobahn) msrp that I got was $29200(with destination) and got it down to $26800. I got offered with either 0% 66mos or .65% 72 mos. . Like what I said as long as you love the car
    Last edited by GTI&GLI; 10-13-2012 at 03:15 PM.

  30. 10-13-2012 11:24 PM #30
    Actually dont think we could have done any better. even called around.

    VW is much more willing to deal on cars with options VS base model cars.

    There was a convienience/sunroof DSG with a 28,900 MSRP, they offered it to us for 26,5. but we didnt wanna pay extra, and it was black

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    10-15-2012 03:20 AM #31
    I bought my base 2012 back in July for around 2k under invoice, 23,450. Also got cargo blocks, mojo mats, and first aid kit with 0% APR for 60 months. I think you could've done better since the 2013's have been on the lot for a while now but when all is said and done, you're driving a brand new car you're gonna love.
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    10-15-2012 10:52 AM #32
    @hkl0ve
    You probably meant $2000 under the msrp because invoice for the base is $23200 which makes it $250 over the invoice price from what you paid. Check truecars.com
    Last edited by GTI&GLI; 10-15-2012 at 10:56 AM.

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    10-15-2012 11:03 AM #33
    SantorianA4, what you could've done is bluff. Say the other dealer was giving you a better price than what the current is giving you but what done is done. Regardless, it's still a nice A** color and I like the 4dr better IMO. Enjoy your GTI!!!

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    10-15-2012 03:34 PM #34
    Very nice and congratz, Best color on the market imo

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    10-15-2012 03:41 PM #35
    vortex you disappoint me...

    all these post and no ones asked the most important question?

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