Congressman calls evolution a lie from the "pit of hell"

[mx5er]

For realz??? And this guy is on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology with Todd Atkin .

http://news.yahoo.com/congressman-ca...175514039.html



Holy hell, that background is creepy

A part if me is hoping that the guy is just saying what the audience wants to hear. But then again, we have people like Todd Atkin and Sarah Palin.

I bet Bill Nye the Science guy is like "oh no he deedn't

[Crimping Is Easy]

inb4 "all _______ think that way because this guy does."

[Ubel GLI]

What a turd. Bring back NASA funding. The reason more intelligent people aren't in politics is because they're all too busy actually doing ****.

[Nicefeet]

At this rate OT won't even make it past November 6th

[worth_fixing]

Yeah but there's a lot of scientific data that he found out as a scientist. I believe him. Because that's what the bible says.

[az__quattro]

ok, the earth is some 9000 years old... his "manufacturers manual" shows up some 7000 years later... good job manufacturer.

he's probably playing for the crowd. anti-intelectualism has become so wide-spread here in the states it can really be the only platform that propels one to political success. we WILL suffer as a society because of this trend.

[butterface]

Evilution!

[barry2952]

[2VWatatime]

For realz??? . But then again, we have people like Todd Atkin and Sarah Palin.

And Democrats who ask if the Martian rover can find where "we" landed, or if Guam might tip over. A lack of objective thought isn't limited to either party...

[VarianceVQ]

And Democrats who ask if the Martian rover can find where "we" landed, or if Guam might tip over. A lack of objective thought isn't limited to either party...

Damn, you really believe in this "equal time" stuff.

[roadtripper]

laugh away. now go back and read the akin thread and see what everyone had to say and predict about his future. now consider that he stayed in the race, grand old g.o.p. faithful (or what passes for it nowadays) kept their money with him, and he very well may win. what a country.

it makes sense. they'd need a stone age mentality to convince people they were right. just stop and honestly consider what has happened to science and intellectualism in america since the fat chick started up with the cigars. we're under attack. make smart babies and live well.

[200HP4dr]

Its interesting because a lot of Christians actually believe in evolution to an extent. You have old earth creationists, because the word in Hebrew that's used in Genesis can either mean "day", "era", or "period of time". Then you have young earth creationists who believe the proper way to translate that word is "day".

I used to be a young earth creationist until I started doing word studies into the Greek and Hebrew. If I learned nothing else, a lot of people preach opinion and don't bother to offer that other ways of interpreting may be correct.

^Will this get me banned?

Chris

[BRealistic]

Its interesting because a lot of Christians actually believe in evolution to an extent. You have old earth creationists, because the word in Hebrew that's used in Genesis can either mean "day", "era", or "period of time". Then you have young earth creationists who believe the proper way to translate that word is "day".

I used to be a young earth creationist until I started doing word studies into the Greek and Hebrew. If I learned nothing else, a lot of people preach opinion and don't bother to offer that other ways of interpreting may be correct.

^Will this get me banned?

Chris

If you want to gain personal power by controlling a population.. would you want people to think for themselves?

[leaftye]

Republican? Yep. The anti-science party.

Its interesting because a lot of Christians actually believe in evolution to an extent. You have old earth creationists, because the word in Hebrew that's used in Genesis can either mean "day", "era", or "period of time". Then you have young earth creationists who believe the proper way to translate that word is "day".

The only reason to think a "day" is 24 hours is because the story is of our world, although the term of a day for this world wouldn't have existed until the 7th day. What unit of time was used during the first six days? How relevant is the concept of time to a being with eternal life?

[2VWatatime]

Damn, you really believe in this "equal time" stuff.

Nah, it's more of an "equally vapid" thing w/me.

[under the radar]

it makes me sad to think of how advanced mankind might be if we weren't constantly held back by religion.

[leaftye]

it makes me sad to think of how advanced mankind might be if we weren't constantly held back by religion.

Or political parties.

[200HP4dr]

Republican? Yep. The anti-science party.




The only reason to think a "day" is 24 hours is because the story is of our world, although the term of a day for this world wouldn't have existed until the 7th day. What unit of time was used during the first six days? How relevant is the concept of time to a being with eternal life?

Well, the original audience would have been a monotheistic group of slaves recently freed from a polytheistic society. It really didn't matter whether yom meant a year or a day. The emphasis was on "God created".

[roadtripper]

Or political parties.

only one hates science.

[200HP4dr]

it makes me sad to think of how advanced mankind might be if we weren't constantly held back by power hungry people.

FTFY.

Everybody has a religion. Some of your leaders have pointy hats while others worship a bean. *shrug*

[roadtripper]

Now I like the stories
About angels, unicorns, and elves
Now I like the stories
As much as anybody else

But when I'm seeking knowledge
Either simple or abstract
The facts are with science
The facts are with science

Science is real

[BRealistic]

only one hates science.

IDK.. religious leaders and political leaders both seem to actively search for any scientific data that supports their pre-conceived opinions, even if a massive preponderance of accepted data counters their pre-conceived opinions.

Science is about looking for all the available data to support the most informed opinion, but both politics and religious go to science looking for any shred of even questionable data to support their pre-conceived opinions.

[leaftye]

only one hates science.

You're right. Religion has a long history of supporting science. To a point, but nonetheless, the support existed to get to that point.

[2VWatatime]

only one hates science.

You really shouldn't talk @ the Democrat Party like that.

[ModestGirl]

This stuff makes me want to scream and throw things at people.

Also, I really doubt that McCaskill will loose against Aiken. He does not seem to know when to shut up.

[LuckyDogg]

I believe in evolution.
You believe in creationism.

Let's agree to disagree -- we don't have to disparage one another. I have such high disdain for people with these "I am smarter than you" attitudes.

[compy222]

Scariest part is that his constituents reelect him.

[Turbio!]

I believe in evolution.
You believe in creationism.

Let's agree to disagree -- we don't have to disparage one another. I have such high disdain for people with these "I am smarter than you" attitudes.

This sounds nice and respectful, but it treats as equivalent two beliefs that are not equivalent on any level. Fact is, some people ARE smarter than others, and their beliefs are grounded in lines of evidence and inquiry that I hold in much greater regard, philosophically, logically, evidentially, and practically, than those of people who indulge in the reactionary intellectual gymnastics this beef-witted congresscritter does.

[VDubby18]

I think a lot of people confuse evolution with the idea of an original species/swamp goo.


A potato knows that evolution exists. Things change over time.


The idea that every living thing has come from the same organism... well that's just a load of poop.

[Turbio!]

I think a lot of people confuse evolution with the idea of an original species/swamp goo.


A potato knows that evolution exists. Things change over time.


The idea that every living thing has come from the same organism... well that's just a load of poop.

Every living thing probably did come from the same small initial gene pool, but because prokaryotic genetics doesn't work the way eukaryotic genetics does, you're probably right (but for the wrong reason) that it didn't come from an original, single "species" as we define species. Bacteria and archaea pass genes laterally as well as through time, so their family tree is really more of a net.

But evolution does imply radiation from a common ancestral gene pool. That's how all evolution works, a billion years ago or today.

[OOOO-A3]

"God didn't produce a ready-made world. The Creator has done something cleverer than this, making a world able to make itself."

-- John Polkinghorne, particle physicist and theologian.

[The Chemist]

But evolution does imply radiation from a common ancestral gene pool. That's how all evolution works, a billion years ago or today.

And DNA is the strongest evidence of a common ancestral gene pool, considering that all organisms on Earth, from the most primitive bacteria to the most advanced human being, share a large portion of DNA in common. There's no other reasonable explanation for this fact.

[DenCo]

To be fair, politicians tend to be experts in lies and the depths/pits of hell...

[atomicalex]

"God didn't produce a ready-made world. The Creator has done something cleverer than this, making a world able to make itself."

-- John Polkinghorne, particle physicist and theologian.

This is the thing that cracks me up the hardest. In engineering, and intelligent design is one that can evolve to meets changing demands.

[mx5er]

The hits just keep on comin': http://news.yahoo.com/ark-gop-calls-...212508499.html

Where to they find these people???