Will gasoline hit $6.00 or more a gallon?

[xdre]

California's gas price spike is related to A) Refinery problem limiting B) a Cali specific blend. They just need to open up Cali to the same gas blend the rest of the US has (at sub-$4/gal. prices) and their prices will return to normal.

Which one?

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM...soline_Map.pdf

[mookieblaylock]

California's gas price spike is related to A) Refinery problem limiting B) a Cali specific blend. They just need to open up Cali to the same gas blend the rest of the US has (at sub-$4/gal. prices) and their prices will return to normal.

the governor just okd selling winter blend early this year so you're theory will be tested soon

[MatchStick]

The fast-rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions, beginning with a huge fire at San Francisco-area Chevron refinery in August.

On Monday, a power failure shut down an Exxon Mobil refinery in Southern California. And a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service.

California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...-gas-stations/

[Sporin]

Which one?

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM...soline_Map.pdf

Was just trying to get teh "why" out there since it hadn't been mentioned yet.

the governor just okd selling winter blend early this year so you're theory will be tested soon

So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )

[rich!]

Gas prices in california are terrible. State gas tax?

Yup. $.35/galon. One of the highest in the nation.

ETA: Who cares?

our county in florida is @ .35c (highest in state) not including the federal tax... (.18c?)

[xdre]

Was just trying to get teh "why" out there since it hadn't been mentioned yet.

Just tweaking your nose a bit.

So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )

Hear hear. In Indiana it's basically impossible to get Ethanol-free gas year-round.

[Sporin]

Just tweaking your nose a bit.



Hear hear. In Indiana it's basically impossible to get Ethanol-free gas year-round.

yeah, here in VT we have 10% Ethanol year round now.

[Air-over-water]

We are still below $3.50/gal for regular.

[MAC]

Oil producers are just testing the market threshold. Prices will never return to pre-shortage levels. Why go back to $4 when people still buy at $5 ? Prices around the rest of the country will creep up to match the price spreads seen before this "crises".

[seadoo2006]

Wow, some of these prices are crazy. Shell 93 is $ 3.94 and regular is $ 3.69 in my area.

Just filled up for 3.599 this morning in Cleveland.

[DerSpiegel]

The fast-rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions, beginning with a huge fire at San Francisco-area Chevron refinery in August.

On Monday, a power failure shut down an Exxon Mobil refinery in Southern California. And a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service.

California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...-gas-stations/

See above.

Not going to $6 for a long time people, just calm the hell down. This is simply a temporary pinch in supply which will sort itself out in a couple months max.

[Southern Jetta]

Should've voted for Newt...

[ValveCoverGasket]

Give it a year, we'll see mid-$5 marks across the country, then it'd slowly creep its way up to $6.


It will happen, just a question of when.

likely not for quite a while, but yup

[cretinx]

"Only poor people care about gas prices"

-Mitt Romney

[feels_road]

So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )

It's actually the summer blend (reformulated to reduce volatility, in part by maximizing ethanol content) that is horrible - I need about 15% more of that stuff in my Passat - defeats much of its purpose.

[epbrown]

Manufacturers should start working on selling those little 1.0L little zippity cars here in the US market, because they'll be a market for them in the near future.

You mean like the Smart Fortwo, Mini Cooper, and Fiat 500? Right.

High fuel prices may drive Americans to more economical cars, but small cars are still an anathema here. What manufacturers will need to do is bring over their (turbo)diesel cars, and their smaller-engined versions of cars we already have. Our belief that you need stump-pulling torque and 7-seats to safely transport a single infant means the market for small, economical cars is limited here.

[91GolfGL]

In my area its right around 4 bucks for regular, and around .50 cents more for 93. They've gone down like 2 cents in the last couple days im hoping it will keep dropping but faster lol.

[powdercrazy]

if gas hits $6.00 then it hits $6.00. Nothing you can do about it.

[Jason4]

Im gonna say PNW. It's under 3.80 in Washington

Not on the left side of the state, try $4.29 at a few stations I passed yesterday.

[MCTB]

Between 3.70 and 3.88 for regular here in NoVa. Gas will most certainly hit 6.00/ gallon but it wont be this year. It will be a few years away. If Turkey and Syria keep going at it, it could come even sooner.

[koston.]

Im gonna say PNW. It's under 3.80 in Washington

Come to the good side of the state, over $4/gallon at most stations for regular. This is probably the first time in my driving life that I may not make a raod trip due to gas prices (to Canada for an RC drift competition).

I also haven't owned a car with such amazing fuel economy as the Forester... (avg 18mpg mixed)

[Sporin]

if gas hits $6.00 then it hits $6.00. Nothing you can do about it.

Truth. The only real control any of us has with gas prices is to use less of it.

[epbrown]

Truth. The only real control any of us has with gas prices is to use less of it.

Well, a lot of the price is taxes, and as voters we have some control over the guys setting those, theoretically. We can also go where taxes are lower. Lots of Chicagoans schlep outside Cook County for gas, if it's convenient. Premium at my local gas station is $5/gal. Saturday I was out in the burbs looking at a Z4 M Roadster for a forum member and gas out there was $3.89, so I topped off on the way back in; I could see doing that if I was near the county line regularly.

[feels_road]

Well, a lot of the price is taxes

I wished. Actually, it is not, because taxes are a fixed amount (rather than a percentage), and gas prices keep rising. Such an insane taxation.

[leaftye]

Well, a lot of the price is taxes, and as voters we have some control over the guys setting those, theoretically. We can also go where taxes are lower. Lots of Chicagoans schlep outside Cook County for gas, if it's convenient. Premium at my local gas station is $5/gal. Saturday I was out in the burbs looking at a Z4 M Roadster for a forum member and gas out there was $3.89, so I topped off on the way back in; I could see doing that if I was near the county line regularly.

http://gasbuddy.com/Tax_Info.aspx

Gas prices would be high regardless of the tax amount. Just look at the profits of big oil. In both good and bad times, they make incredible profits. They know that the demand for gasoline is a rather inelastic in the short term, which allows them to charge high prices and have spectacular quarters. Over the long term they might suffer, but only if there's a movement to another fuel. Lowering taxes hampers the movement to alternatives.

[Aonarch]

I do not understand why in GA our gas is so expensive...

[leaftye]

I do not understand why in GA our gas is so expensive...

It's the 10th cheapest in the nation.

[RacerrRex]

I paid 3.57 this morning

[bubbagti]

http://gasbuddy.com/Tax_Info.aspx

They know that the demand for gasoline is a rather inelastic in the short term, which allows them to charge high prices and have spectacular quarters. Over the long term they might suffer, but only if there's a movement to another fuel. Lowering taxes hampers the movement to alternatives.

This.

[RobMarkToo]

The quickness at which it has been going up and down really bothers me. I think just 2 months ago it was 4 dollars for premium at the expensive station near me, now its 4.50. It will probably go down by 20 cents in the next 2 months but grr its so damn unstable! And the trend has been up up up way quicker than any of us have seen in our lives in the last 10 years or so.

[stascom]

The quickness at which it has been going up and down really bothers me. I think just 2 months ago it was 4 dollars for premium at the expensive station near me, now its 4.50. It will probably go down by 20 cents in the next 2 months but grr its so damn unstable! And the trend has been up up up way quicker than any of us have seen in our lives in the last 10 years or so.

They are training us like dogs. Next time they need a quarterly boost in revenue - bam, sudden increase for a couple of weeks. And no one will be shocked.

[FiveAinOne]

$3.89 today in West LA

[X37]

$3.89 today in West LA

Lucky. $4.88 in Sacramento

[ry_guy]

I think I paid $3.50 earlier in Florida. Ethanol free gas is around $4.00/gallon though.

[phil123]

I know, diesel went from 4.35 to 4.37 overnight

Its times like these that i'm glad i have diesel.