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      10-08-2012 08:46 AM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      California's gas price spike is related to A) Refinery problem limiting B) a Cali specific blend. They just need to open up Cali to the same gas blend the rest of the US has (at sub-$4/gal. prices) and their prices will return to normal.
      Which one?

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    2. 10-08-2012 08:46 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      California's gas price spike is related to A) Refinery problem limiting B) a Cali specific blend. They just need to open up Cali to the same gas blend the rest of the US has (at sub-$4/gal. prices) and their prices will return to normal.
      the governor just okd selling winter blend early this year so you're theory will be tested soon

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      10-08-2012 08:53 AM #38
      The fast-rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions, beginning with a huge fire at San Francisco-area Chevron refinery in August.

      On Monday, a power failure shut down an Exxon Mobil refinery in Southern California. And a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service.

      California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state.
      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...-gas-stations/

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      10-08-2012 09:08 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by xdre View Post
      Was just trying to get teh "why" out there since it hadn't been mentioned yet.

      Quote Originally Posted by mookieblaylock View Post
      the governor just okd selling winter blend early this year so you're theory will be tested soon
      So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )

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      10-08-2012 09:15 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by lojasmo View Post
      Gas prices in california are terrible. State gas tax?

      Yup. $.35/galon. One of the highest in the nation.

      ETA: Who cares?
      our county in florida is @ .35c (highest in state) not including the federal tax... (.18c?)
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      10-08-2012 10:07 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Was just trying to get teh "why" out there since it hadn't been mentioned yet.
      Just tweaking your nose a bit.

      So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )
      Hear hear. In Indiana it's basically impossible to get Ethanol-free gas year-round.

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      10-08-2012 10:14 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by xdre View Post
      Just tweaking your nose a bit.



      Hear hear. In Indiana it's basically impossible to get Ethanol-free gas year-round.
      yeah, here in VT we have 10% Ethanol year round now.

    8. 10-08-2012 10:33 AM #43
      We are still below $3.50/gal for regular.

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      10-08-2012 10:53 AM #44
      Oil producers are just testing the market threshold. Prices will never return to pre-shortage levels. Why go back to $4 when people still buy at $5 ? Prices around the rest of the country will creep up to match the price spreads seen before this "crises".
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      10-08-2012 11:26 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by MN6845 View Post
      Wow, some of these prices are crazy. Shell 93 is $ 3.94 and regular is $ 3.69 in my area.
      Just filled up for 3.599 this morning in Cleveland.

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      10-08-2012 11:39 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by MatchStick View Post
      The fast-rising prices are linked to a string of supply disruptions, beginning with a huge fire at San Francisco-area Chevron refinery in August.

      On Monday, a power failure shut down an Exxon Mobil refinery in Southern California. And a crude oil pipeline in the state is also out of service.

      California pollution rules require a gasoline blend that isn't readily available from refineries outside the state.

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_16...-gas-stations/
      See above.

      Not going to $6 for a long time people, just calm the hell down. This is simply a temporary pinch in supply which will sort itself out in a couple months max.

    12. 10-08-2012 11:51 AM #47
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      10-08-2012 12:21 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by mm3 View Post
      Give it a year, we'll see mid-$5 marks across the country, then it'd slowly creep its way up to $6.


      It will happen, just a question of when
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      likely not for quite a while, but yup

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      10-08-2012 12:23 PM #49
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      10-08-2012 10:43 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      So Cali uses the same winter blend as the rest of us? (ie. watered down with Ethanol )
      It's actually the summer blend (reformulated to reduce volatility, in part by maximizing ethanol content) that is horrible - I need about 15% more of that stuff in my Passat - defeats much of its purpose.
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      10-09-2012 10:51 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by mm3 View Post
      Manufacturers should start working on selling those little 1.0L little zippity cars here in the US market, because they'll be a market for them in the near future.
      You mean like the Smart Fortwo, Mini Cooper, and Fiat 500? Right.

      High fuel prices may drive Americans to more economical cars, but small cars are still an anathema here. What manufacturers will need to do is bring over their (turbo)diesel cars, and their smaller-engined versions of cars we already have. Our belief that you need stump-pulling torque and 7-seats to safely transport a single infant means the market for small, economical cars is limited here.
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      10-09-2012 11:22 AM #52
      In my area its right around 4 bucks for regular, and around .50 cents more for 93. They've gone down like 2 cents in the last couple days im hoping it will keep dropping but faster lol.
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      10-09-2012 11:40 AM #53
      if gas hits $6.00 then it hits $6.00. Nothing you can do about it.

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      10-09-2012 12:13 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Im gonna say PNW. It's under 3.80 in Washington
      Not on the left side of the state, try $4.29 at a few stations I passed yesterday.
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      10-09-2012 12:27 PM #55
      Between 3.70 and 3.88 for regular here in NoVa. Gas will most certainly hit 6.00/ gallon but it wont be this year. It will be a few years away. If Turkey and Syria keep going at it, it could come even sooner.

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      10-09-2012 12:31 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Im gonna say PNW. It's under 3.80 in Washington
      Come to the good side of the state, over $4/gallon at most stations for regular. This is probably the first time in my driving life that I may not make a raod trip due to gas prices (to Canada for an RC drift competition).

      I also haven't owned a car with such amazing fuel economy as the Forester... (avg 18mpg mixed)
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      10-09-2012 12:33 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by powdercrazy View Post
      if gas hits $6.00 then it hits $6.00. Nothing you can do about it.
      Truth. The only real control any of us has with gas prices is to use less of it.

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      10-09-2012 12:45 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Truth. The only real control any of us has with gas prices is to use less of it.
      Well, a lot of the price is taxes, and as voters we have some control over the guys setting those, theoretically. We can also go where taxes are lower. Lots of Chicagoans schlep outside Cook County for gas, if it's convenient. Premium at my local gas station is $5/gal. Saturday I was out in the burbs looking at a Z4 M Roadster for a forum member and gas out there was $3.89, so I topped off on the way back in; I could see doing that if I was near the county line regularly.
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      10-09-2012 11:17 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      Well, a lot of the price is taxes
      I wished. Actually, it is not, because taxes are a fixed amount (rather than a percentage), and gas prices keep rising. Such an insane taxation.
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      10-09-2012 11:30 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by epbrown View Post
      Well, a lot of the price is taxes, and as voters we have some control over the guys setting those, theoretically. We can also go where taxes are lower. Lots of Chicagoans schlep outside Cook County for gas, if it's convenient. Premium at my local gas station is $5/gal. Saturday I was out in the burbs looking at a Z4 M Roadster for a forum member and gas out there was $3.89, so I topped off on the way back in; I could see doing that if I was near the county line regularly.


      Quote Originally Posted by koolkevin43 View Post
      http://gasbuddy.com/Tax_Info.aspx

      Gas prices would be high regardless of the tax amount. Just look at the profits of big oil. In both good and bad times, they make incredible profits. They know that the demand for gasoline is a rather inelastic in the short term, which allows them to charge high prices and have spectacular quarters. Over the long term they might suffer, but only if there's a movement to another fuel. Lowering taxes hampers the movement to alternatives.
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      10-09-2012 11:37 PM #61
      I do not understand why in GA our gas is so expensive...
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      10-10-2012 01:04 AM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by Aonarch View Post
      I do not understand why in GA our gas is so expensive...
      It's the 10th cheapest in the nation.
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      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      10-10-2012 01:14 AM #63
      I paid 3.57 this morning

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      10-10-2012 01:21 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
      http://gasbuddy.com/Tax_Info.aspx

      They know that the demand for gasoline is a rather inelastic in the short term, which allows them to charge high prices and have spectacular quarters. Over the long term they might suffer, but only if there's a movement to another fuel. Lowering taxes hampers the movement to alternatives.
      This.

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      10-10-2012 02:30 AM #65
      The quickness at which it has been going up and down really bothers me. I think just 2 months ago it was 4 dollars for premium at the expensive station near me, now its 4.50. It will probably go down by 20 cents in the next 2 months but grr its so damn unstable! And the trend has been up up up way quicker than any of us have seen in our lives in the last 10 years or so.

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      10-10-2012 02:41 AM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by RobMarkToo View Post
      The quickness at which it has been going up and down really bothers me. I think just 2 months ago it was 4 dollars for premium at the expensive station near me, now its 4.50. It will probably go down by 20 cents in the next 2 months but grr its so damn unstable! And the trend has been up up up way quicker than any of us have seen in our lives in the last 10 years or so.
      They are training us like dogs. Next time they need a quarterly boost in revenue - bam, sudden increase for a couple of weeks. And no one will be shocked.

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      10-10-2012 02:45 AM #67
      $3.89 today in West LA

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      10-10-2012 02:45 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by FiveAinOne View Post
      $3.89 today in West LA
      Lucky. $4.88 in Sacramento

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      10-10-2012 03:19 AM #69
      I think I paid $3.50 earlier in Florida. Ethanol free gas is around $4.00/gallon though.

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