Drug tested

[winstonsmith84]

Do you have access to the supply closet? If so, load up now.

[nastybags]

I still smoke from time to time and get random drug tested as well.

OP you do know there are ways to pass a piss test? Giving piss is the easiest tests to pass,blood or hair forget about it

[Angry_Birds]

Never read a thread where more people tried to sound holier than thou. I mean, other than something in OT.

Telling someone to hold down a job and act like an adult =/= holier than thou

[Rod Ratio]

Did I just log into a Mormon forum?

[a_riot]

Did I just log into a Mormon forum?

Really. What a bunch of politically correct aholes. I know for a fact that many of the upper echelon in my company smoke, drink heavily and do other things, but of course they don't have to submit to tests. On my first day at one company, at 5 pm my manager told me to come out to the parking lot for my drug test. Confused I went out there and found him smoking a joint, and my "drug test" consisted of him finding out if I smoked!

I see it as a privacy issue myself, and won't work for a company that does drug testing on principal. Did you see the case recently where some lab technician was caught salting drug tests so they would be positive with cocaine, thinking she was "helping" law enforcement? Thousands of innocent people did a lot of time thanks to her and have a criminal record. The tests themselves aren't that accurate either, and the drugs that can mess you up the most have the shortest half life. Eating a poppy seed bagel before the test can label you as an opiate user depending on the testing threshold.

Testing companies love them, as do insurance companies, so they can use them to not pay out claims, whether they are relevant or not. The only thing they are good for is preventing serious drug addicts from working, since they have no choice but to work impaired due to a physical addiction. Typically recreational drug users don't come into work high or drunk, and if they do its usually obvious and since they can be fired without cause, testing isn't even needed. Some employees are so valuable, skilled and hard to replace that employers know they smoke, but don't care since it doesn't seem to affect their work at all. We lost one of the best programmers we had due to a positive THC test, and no one was happy about that outcome, especially the employer, but the insurance company left them with little choice but to fire them.

What's next, doing pre-employment medical scans or genetic testing to find out if I may have some horrible illness that will require a lot of medical benefits? No point in hiring someone who is likely to get cancer, or some other terminal illness is there? Shouldn't employers be able to protect themselves from those liabilities too?

[Egilbe]

I don't care if you smoke weed. If you work for a company that has a zero-tolerance policy, then you are just an idiot if smoke weed. That's the difference.

[green meanie]

What's next, doing pre-employment medical scans or genetic testing to find out if I may have some horrible illness that will require a lot of medical benefits? No point in hiring someone who is likely to get cancer, or some other terminal illness is there? Shouldn't employers be able to protect themselves from those liabilities too?

I've had to do this a few times for jobs. Welcome to the NWO.

[a_riot]

I don't care if you smoke weed. If you work for a company that has a zero-tolerance policy, then you are just an idiot if smoke weed. That's the difference.

Personally I think anyone who works for a company that does drug screening is an idiot, whether clean or not. If more valuable potential employees refused to cooperate with this Orwellian and unconstitutional practice, companies would have to reconsider the harm its doing to their bottom line, and if its worth it. My guess is it wouldn't be.

[ab8349]

Personally I think anyone who works for a company that does drug screening is an idiot, whether clean or not. If more valuable potential employees refused to cooperate with this Orwellian and unconstitutional practice, companies would have to reconsider the harm its doing to their bottom line, and if its worth it. My guess is it wouldn't be.

You are aware of the state of economy and how many people will do anything for a job?

[Egilbe]

You are aware of the state of economy and how many people will do anything for a job?

except quit smoking weed, apparently

[mrothwell]

Personally I think anyone who works for a company that does drug screening is an idiot, whether clean or not. If more valuable potential employees refused to cooperate with this Orwellian and unconstitutional practice, companies would have to reconsider the harm its doing to their bottom line, and if its worth it. My guess is it wouldn't be.

Why is it so hard to grasp that you shouldn't be high when operating heavy machinery? The OP works construction. It might not matter if you're a graphic designer or a software engineer, but in jobs where people's lives are in danger I sure as hell hope they drug test.

[bobdoll]

Why is it so hard to grasp that you shouldn't be high when operating heavy machinery? The OP works construction. It might not matter if you're a graphic designer or a software engineer, but in jobs where people's lives are in danger I sure as hell hope they drug test.

This is true but I would never come to work under the influence of anything ever. That fun stuff is saved for weekends


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[Rod Ratio]

Why is it so hard to grasp that you shouldn't be high when operating heavy machinery? The OP works construction. It might not matter if you're a graphic designer or a software engineer, but in jobs where people's lives are in danger I sure as hell hope they drug test.

Why is it so hard to grasp that marijuana stays in your system for 30 days. You could smoke on Friday, and get tested on Monday or even a couple weeks later and still show a dirty urine.

The standards aren't even remotely just. Especially considering that you can smoke until midnight, and wake up the next morning completely sober, with no ill effects.

Try that with alcohol

[owen__]

we drug test for employment but don't test for welfare applicants alcoholics at work are the problem. smoking doesnt make you dumb, you were just dumb to begin with. IMO i would give up smoking in a heart beat if i knew my job was on the line thats just common sense

[volkstyle]

I don't understand what everyone has against pot. I'm sorry if you missed out of fun experiences or didn't experiment enough in your youth. No reason to tell me I'm the biggest idiot in the world because your butthole is too tight


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I dont think you enjoyed much being a pothead. You are losing your job because of it, but yet still defend it. You deserved it.

[Rod Ratio]

I dont think you enjoyed much being a pothead. You are losing your job because of it, but yet still defend it. You deserved it.

Let me get this straight..

He deserved losing his job because of a draconian law that is essentially invading his privacy at home?

Marijuana was made illegal; not because it's a "gateway drug, but because it was successfully lobbied against by Hearst (international paper), and Dupont. Dupont invented nylon rope, and wanted to take business away from the hemp rope manufacturers of the day, while Hearst and the International paper company had just aquired vast new forests, and wanted to guarantee a more substantial return on their investment by driving the hemp paper competitors out of business.

[Calboytex]

Yup. the government also invested in the nylon company.. hence why hemp is illegal.

[Rod Ratio]

Yup. the government also invested in the nylon company.. hence why hemp is illegal.

I didn't know that, but it makes perfect sense

[mrothwell]

I didn't know that, but it makes perfect sense

Its like, a conspiracy, maaannn...

[Egilbe]

Its like, a conspiracy, maaannn...

There was also some stupid racist movie that was produced in the 30's that proclaimed that stoned black men want to rape white women. The military was also afraid the stoned soldiers wouldn't want to fight in battle.

[Papa Dras]

Do we even know if the OP ended up losing his job? He would have had the results back pretty quickly.

[Mr Niceguy]

I work in construction and some how by the graces of a higher power not god I passed still have a job. Most likely since I don't smoke really ever anymore maybe like once or twice a year and only take a few hits to relax.


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^ pretty sure he's still employed. Unless he fell asleep in a stoned haze while operating a bulldozer and ran down a group of kindergartners who were just out for a lovely day at the park. or something.

if you can't figure out how to obtain a substance that will ensure you piss clean, when you work in an environment that will drug test you, then you are stupid. smoking pot is not stupid, being stupid is stupid.

[abeR]

smoking pot is not stupid, being stupid is stupid.

it's hard being black and gifted, sometimes i wanna throw it all down and get lifted

[owen__]

it's hard being black and gifted, sometimes i wanna throw it all down and get lifted

[bobdoll]

Do we even know if the OP ended up losing his job? He would have had the results back pretty quickly.

Yeah I am still employed I posted that I was a while ago.


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[3danimator]

Yea, I would probably not show up to work

Next time if you know there is a drug test in your future and will fail,
Use one of the hundreds of drinks you buy at a headshop made to pass a test

[Robski92]

I'm honestly surprised at how many people in the white collar workforce blaze. I thought it was just the high school kids in fast food and general laborers on construction sites.

[Papa Dras]

I'm a manager in the technology industry and I'd guess 50% of the people I work with partake.

[Ducky 2.0T]

I don't understand what everyone has against pot. I'm sorry if you missed out of fun experiences or didn't experiment enough in your youth. No reason to tell me I'm the biggest idiot in the world because your butthole is too tight


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You probably actually failed, they are just waiting until a point where it is more economically efficient for them.

I'd be watching over my shoulder for the pink slip daily. Enjoy.

[owen__]

I'm a manager in the technology industry and I'd guess 50% of the people I work with partake.

i noticed it says youre from Colorado honestly don't try to work your way around a drug test. quit for a month, or use one of those detox drinks if you dont have enough time. weed doesnt pay bills unless you sell it of course haha

[AggvGtivr6]

we drug test for employment but don't test for welfare applicants alcoholics at work are the problem.

Let me get this straight..

He deserved losing his job because of a draconian law that is essentially invading his privacy at home?

Marijuana was made illegal; not because it's a "gateway drug, but because it was successfully lobbied against by Hearst (international paper), and Dupont. Dupont invented nylon rope, and wanted to take business away from the hemp rope manufacturers of the day, while Hearst and the International paper company had just aquired vast new forests, and wanted to guarantee a more substantial return on their investment by driving the hemp paper competitors out of business.

^this x100

Using MJ on the weekend has no effect on the way someone performs at work during the week. Or even during the week, someone could smoke at night and be perfectly fine at work the next day. However it would be hard to drink and still function properly the next day, unless hardcore alcoholic.

stupid laws and stupid policies

[ShaggyMutt1]

^this x100

Using MJ on the weekend has no effect on the way someone performs at work during the week. Or even during the week, someone could smoke at night and be perfectly fine at work the next day. However it would be hard to drink and still function properly the next day, unless hardcore alcoholic.

stupid laws and stupid policies

Too bad america is a bunch of morons!

[Rod Ratio]

Too bad america is a bunch of morons!

[deagle]

i would just appeal, and wait it out of the body

you can either terminated or resign...crooked CEO's do it all the time