I still smoke from time to time and get random drug tested as well.
OP you do know there are ways to pass a piss test? Giving piss is the easiest tests to pass,blood or hair forget about it
I see it as a privacy issue myself, and won't work for a company that does drug testing on principal. Did you see the case recently where some lab technician was caught salting drug tests so they would be positive with cocaine, thinking she was "helping" law enforcement? Thousands of innocent people did a lot of time thanks to her and have a criminal record. The tests themselves aren't that accurate either, and the drugs that can mess you up the most have the shortest half life. Eating a poppy seed bagel before the test can label you as an opiate user depending on the testing threshold.
Testing companies love them, as do insurance companies, so they can use them to not pay out claims, whether they are relevant or not. The only thing they are good for is preventing serious drug addicts from working, since they have no choice but to work impaired due to a physical addiction. Typically recreational drug users don't come into work high or drunk, and if they do its usually obvious and since they can be fired without cause, testing isn't even needed. Some employees are so valuable, skilled and hard to replace that employers know they smoke, but don't care since it doesn't seem to affect their work at all. We lost one of the best programmers we had due to a positive THC test, and no one was happy about that outcome, especially the employer, but the insurance company left them with little choice but to fire them.
What's next, doing pre-employment medical scans or genetic testing to find out if I may have some horrible illness that will require a lot of medical benefits? No point in hiring someone who is likely to get cancer, or some other terminal illness is there? Shouldn't employers be able to protect themselves from those liabilities too?
The standards aren't even remotely just. Especially considering that you can smoke until midnight, and wake up the next morning completely sober, with no ill effects.
Try that with alcohol
we drug test for employment but don't test for welfare applicants alcoholics at work are the problem. smoking doesnt make you dumb, you were just dumb to begin with. IMO i would give up smoking in a heart beat if i knew my job was on the line thats just common sense
Last edited by owen__; 10-23-2012 at 09:16 PM.
He deserved losing his job because of a draconian law that is essentially invading his privacy at home?
Marijuana was made illegal; not because it's a "gateway drug, but because it was successfully lobbied against by Hearst (international paper), and Dupont. Dupont invented nylon rope, and wanted to take business away from the hemp rope manufacturers of the day, while Hearst and the International paper company had just aquired vast new forests, and wanted to guarantee a more substantial return on their investment by driving the hemp paper competitors out of business.
if you can't figure out how to obtain a substance that will ensure you piss clean, when you work in an environment that will drug test you, then you are stupid. smoking pot is not stupid, being stupid is stupid.
Last edited by owen__; 11-20-2012 at 08:05 AM.
Using MJ on the weekend has no effect on the way someone performs at work during the week. Or even during the week, someone could smoke at night and be perfectly fine at work the next day. However it would be hard to drink and still function properly the next day, unless hardcore alcoholic.
stupid laws and stupid policies