Porsche 911 Carrera S nails down 7:37.9 'Ring time

[mariok2006]

The run took place on August 28, but Porsche only published the video this week. After checking recorded lap times posted on Wikipedia, the 911's run was faster than independent tests of the Lexus LFA, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, Nissan GT-R and Ferrari 458 Italia (which all posted times of 7:38).

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/07/p...-time-w-video/

[JustinCSVT]

after checking recorded lap times posted on wikipedia, the 911's run was faster than independent tests of the lexus lfa, chevrolet corvette zr1, nissan gt-r and ferrari 458 italia (which all posted times of 7:38).

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Twistedsix]

This should be entertaining.

[mariok2006]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Didn't the ZR1 post 7:24? and the Z07 7:22? Not independent testing, but it doesn't make sense for Porsche to compare their result to independent testing either.

[Fritz27]

I'm calling BS/ringer right now.

[RacingManiac]

Yeah that statement in itself is pretty funny....

Fast car though, nonetheless, considering how it compares to Porsche's own number with the older GT3/Turbo and whatnot..

[Smooremin]

Guy seems like he is just out for a sunday drive.... Wish I had a thousandth of his skill....

[SVTJayC]

This car makes a mediocre driver like me look good on a track, makes sense it would make a great driver look super human. The car is that good.

[NoDubJustYet]

Can't wait to see what the GT3/RS can do!!!

[Shomegrown]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

It is true...

Though I fundamentally disagree with comparing factory backed times to independent times. I don't think it's apples to apples.

[Nubbin]

Cut slicks.

[curvedinfinity]

Take notes everyone. Step one to a fast ring time is throwing your gum out the window. 1 second improvement if you can hit the corner worker without even looking.

[SmokinDiesel]

Something I just noticed...

The timer in the lower right hand corner doesn't start until 0:54 into the video. Look at where the car is on the map in the upper left corner (car is going into a lefthand corner).

At 8:39 in the video the timer stops. According to the map in the upper left corner, the car still hasn't reached the lefthand corner it started from. The timer stops before the point it started from, thereby reducing the lap time by a few seconds.

Does anyone know if the Porsche is using an accepted timing methodology for this lap? (i.e., do these runs, regardless of what car is being timed, start at that lefthand corner, but end just before it?).

[curvedinfinity]

Cut slicks.

Watching the video ................... 1.5 Gs on the flat turns.... suspicious.

[JustinCSVT]

Didn't the ZR1 post 7:24? and the Z07 7:22? Not independent testing, but it doesn't make sense for Porsche to compare their result to independent testing either.

The ZR1 posted a 7:19 I think. The GT-R was in the mid to low 7:20's as well. I'd imagine the 458 is in that area too.

[curvedinfinity]

Something I just noticed...

The timer in the lower right hand corner doesn't start until 0:54 into the video. Look at where the car is on the map in the upper left corner (car is going into a lefthand corner).

At 8:39 in the video the timer stops. According to the map in the upper left corner, the car still hasn't reached the lefthand corner it started from. The timer stops before the point it started from, thereby reducing the lap time by a few seconds.

Does anyone know if the Porsche is using an accepted timing methodology for this lap? (i.e., do these runs, regardless of what car is being timed, start at that lefthand corner, but end just before it?).

Haha ... yes. Most videos I've watched have the start/end at the white line where the timer stopped in this one. This video is pretty fishy.

[NoDubJustYet]

Something I just noticed...

The timer in the lower right hand corner doesn't start until 0:54 into the video. Look at where the car is on the map in the upper left corner (car is going into a lefthand corner).

At 8:39 in the video the timer stops. According to the map in the upper left corner, the car still hasn't reached the lefthand corner it started from. The timer stops before the point it started from, thereby reducing the lap time by a few seconds.

Does anyone know if the Porsche is using an accepted timing methodology for this lap? (i.e., do these runs, regardless of what car is being timed, start at that lefthand corner, but end just before it?).

Haha ... yes. Most videos I've watched have the start/end at the white line where the timer stopped in this one. This video is pretty fishy.

You mean just like the ZR1 video????? Don't look at the overlay, look at the actual track and see where time starts/stops.

The ZR1 posted a 7:19 I think. The GT-R was in the mid to low 7:20's as well. I'd imagine the 458 is in that area too.

7:26.4

[Shomegrown]

Watching the video ................... 1.5 Gs on the flat turns.... suspicious.

Meh, my crapbox BMW could exceed 1.1g on street tires almost 10 years ago. I have no doubt a 991 could get up there on modern rubber.

[Willows]

Is this about the 997 or the 991?

[Shomegrown]

Something I just noticed...

The timer in the lower right hand corner doesn't start until 0:54 into the video. Look at where the car is on the map in the upper left corner (car is going into a lefthand corner).

At 8:39 in the video the timer stops. According to the map in the upper left corner, the car still hasn't reached the lefthand corner it started from. The timer stops before the point it started from, thereby reducing the lap time by a few seconds.

Does anyone know if the Porsche is using an accepted timing methodology for this lap? (i.e., do these runs, regardless of what car is being timed, start at that lefthand corner, but end just before it?).

That's normal. The start and finish aren't in the same place due to where the GP track intersects the Nordschleife. Watch any other 'ring video (like the ZR-1 video just above) and you'll see the same thing.

[NoDubJustYet]

That's normal. The start and finish aren't in the same place due to where the GP track intersects the Nordschleife. Watch any other 'ring video (like the ZR-1 video just above) and you'll see the same thing.

No, you're wrong.

[mariok2006]

7:26.4

7:19

[Shomegrown]

No, you're wrong.

Given the amount of hate slung around when other mfg's announce 'ring times, I guess it's only fair.

[curvedinfinity]

That's normal. The start and finish aren't in the same place due to where the GP track intersects the Nordschleife. Watch any other 'ring video (like the ZR-1 video just above) and you'll see the same thing.

He's right ... never noticed this before.

[StringTheory]

the 991 chassis is magnificent. That time with "only" 400ish hp is outstanding.

GT versions will be viciously fast.

[NoDubJustYet]

7:19
-other video-]

Interesting... I wonder why GM even posted the other one?

[mariok2006]

Interesting... I wonder why GM even posted the other one?

The 7:26 time was done around when the car came out. The 7:19 time was done when the Corvette got new tires as a factory option (read: street legal race tire).

[Swapped6n]

Not to be "that guy" but the drivers driving style was a little rough.

As in, he could have gotten a better time i suspect by being a bit less stabby on the throttle (you actually hear/see him jab at the throttle).

Not something I've seen other professional drivers do, and something I've always been taught not to do.

Other than that, its always nice seeing a ring video.

[NoDubJustYet]

The 7:26 time was done around when the car came out. The 7:19 time was done when the Corvette got new tires as a factory option (read: street legal race tire).

Gotcha.

[cretinx]

Not to be "that guy" but the drivers driving style was a little rough.

As in, he could have gotten a better time i suspect by being a bit less stabby on the throttle (you actually hear/see him jab at the throttle).

Not something I've seen other professional drivers do, and something I've always been taught not to do.

Other than that, its always nice seeing a ring video.

You've clearly never driven a 911

[rlfletch]

These Chicago guys will stop at nothing!

[koko12]

For a Company which has publicly stated they don't put much emphasis on Ring times back when they were getting their asses handed to them by the Corvette and GTR they sure seem to do a lot of testing in the ring and trow it in every one's face when they do well. Also why bring up independent times when you are doing in-house testing? For those the times of the vehicles they mentioned are as follows?

LFA - 7:14
ZR1 - 7:19
GTR - 7:24 (damp track)
Italia - 7:32

ACR - 7:12

For the record that's an amazing time for the Carrera S, I imagine the GT3, 911 Turbo and GT2 will be monsters.

[Shomegrown]

For a Company which has publicly stated they don't put much emphasis on Ring times back when they were getting their asses handed to them by the Corvette and GTR they sure seem to do a lot of testing in the ring and trow it in every one's face when they do well. Also why bring up independent times when you are doing in-house testing? For those the times of the vehicles they mentioned are as follows?

LFA - 7:14
ZR1 - 7:19
GTR - 7:24 (damp track)
Italia - 7:32

ACR - 7:12

For the record that's an amazing time for the Carrera S, I imagine the GT3, 911 Turbo and GT2 will be monsters.

...so people really aren't noticing that the comparisons are made by some bull**** autoblog writer, and not Porsche?

Porsche has been testing there for decades and has never discounted the importance of doing so, so I'm not sure of what you're trying to say.

IOW - TCL, being TCL.

[Hawk]

I keep trying to make the numbers work so I can justify buying a new 991. Argh, still too rich for my blood. May have to wait another year or so to get a used one.

[koko12]

...so people really aren't noticing that the comparisons are made by some bull**** autoblog writer, and not Porsche?

Porsche has been testing there for decades and has never discounted the importance of doing so, so I'm not sure of what you're trying to say.

IOW - TCL, being TCL.

Yes the comparison was made by autoblog, but the run and times provided were made by porsche and for publicity sake. The car is already in dealers lots, so it's not like they are doing these runs for development sake.

what I'm trying to say is Porsche has publicly stated they don't put too much attention to ring times which is BS because their actions show otherwise. As you said they've been testing and running the ring for decades. It's like saying "I exercise and eat healthy every day but i don't care about fitness." Personally I think it's great since no other track in the world has as many variations and allows for a car to be fine tuned to do well in almost any situation in the real world.