One person, johnnyr32 and he is beyond baller so he doesn't even count lol. If you want the best of the best you are spending $3k on a turboback exhaust you will be getting a titanium exhaust not this overpriced stainless steel..
This product is exactly what I dreamt of! When first saw this vid, I thought I'd have to go to the US to get this done then I read it is done in conjunction with GIAC and my local shop is a vendor haha!
If the price is right, im doing this in the summer!
Gal with a Blue R
Like they are going to give us the component costs and hours of labor required to make it ... then we will all know how much they are trying to rape our wallets
Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the mouth
1986 535i | 1995 M3 | 2002 337 | 2005 MCS | 2006 GTI | 2007 GTI | 2008 R32 | 2006 CAYENNE S | 2012 GOLF R | 1991 964
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FYI, I'd guess that the LED tails cost probably $300 to make, TOPS. So are we all stupid for buying them and putting them on our cars for a > 200% mark up? YES!!! But we do it anyway (myself included) because we like it. Most of us here spend thousands upon thousands on our cars. Average people think all of us are crazy. Let's not split hairs among ourselves, we're all car nuts to varying degrees. Just look at other people's stuff and say, "cool, nice man!" or don't say anything at all.
Old - 2001 GTI 1.8T - Matchstick Red (for sale), 1997 Jetta GLX VR6 - Black
New - 2012 Golf R - CSG
Yeah say the tails cost 300 to make (incl. % of design and R&D) ... 200% markup is $900.
Stainless steel pipes are not expensive, the materials for the metal for AWE is probably under $100 then you have to add in the cost of the cat muffler labor and R&D and total probably around $750, they are made in the US there is no importing, no customs, no extra taxes or bull****.
Fair price is anywhere from $1k-$1.5k or $1.1k-$1.6k with the switch. To take that fair price and jack it up to $2.8k or $3.2k with the switch is bonkers
Bottom line is this... The Golf R is a great car, but it ain't that great. AWE has the right to charge whatever they want... and people have a right to purchase whatever they want. All myself and several others have thoughtfully said... is if your product makes APRs turboback seem like it is on the clearance rack at target, than perhaps pricing is a tad off.
What amazes me is people attempting to justify the price using labor and R&D costs. What, did AWE find some secret formula that all the other companies failed to achieve? Did they fly stainless steel to a space station and devleop it in zero gravity conditions?
Last edited by Baylorguy; 10-14-2012 at 11:04 AM.
Been trying to stay out of this but I do have a legitimate price question/comparison to add. How come AWE can make the MKV and MKVI GTI downpipe for $850 yet the one for the R is $450 more at $1300? The R pipe is 3" diameter VS 2.5", has a different flange for the K04 and uses a few more inches of pipe to get around the drive shaft. Those small changes add up to a $450 price increase over similar products they already make? That's the price I don't understand. I could understand a slight price hike due to higher material costs due to larger pipe diameter and a bit more length used but such a large one doesn't make much sense. It's not like it's any more complex to weld than a GTI downpipe so it can't be a labor increase.
As for the switchpath stuff, they're the only ones that do that so they can charge what they want. However when compared to their own similar product prices the downpipe price seems like a price gouge just because it's for the R.
The real truth of the matter is, none of us have to buy any of it and complaining about the price isn't going to make the company grow a conscience about price hiking for the R and lower it. Well, I'd be shocked if it did make them adjust it and at $850 like the GTI downpipe I'd order one ASAP!
Same R&D / fewer systems = higher cost
Tubing is probably closer to $300
HJS cat is at least $400
We’ve had some questions about the various options on the system, so here it all is, in one place.
The AWE Tuning Golf R Performance Exhaust is available in three variations + AWE Tuning Performance Downpipe:
The AWE Tuning Track Edition Exhaust. This option comes sans exhaust valve, but offers the ability to upgrade later to both a valved system (The SwitchPath™ Exhaust) and to add the Activator Button at a later date as well. Systems from $1099.00.
The AWE Tuning SwitchPath Exhaust. The first of two SwitchPath Exhaust options, this system utilizes a valve which works off of the factory settings, with the ability to later upgrade to the full SwitchPath Exhaust with Activator Button. Systems from $1399.00.
The AWE Tuning SwitchPath™ Exhaust with Activator Button. The second SwitchPath Exhaust option includes the same components as the SwitchPath Exhaust above, with the addition of the Activator Button which allows you to toggle between having the valve open and closed at your own preference via an in-cabin button. Systems from $1799.00.
The AWE Tuning Golf R Performance Downpipe. The Golf R Downpipe’s 3” design allows for a more aggressive tone and gains of +22hp and +17tq. The Golf R Downpipe retails for $1299.00
All the options, including more photos and product videos, right here. And VW Performance Specialists await, 1.888.565.2257, 215.658.1670 or performance@AWE-Tuning.com.
Last edited by 20th-Hole; 10-29-2012 at 03:06 PM.