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      10-09-2012 12:03 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      By other coast I meant 2,500 miles away on the east coast. I really am glad you mentioned leaving it the way it is. The Skylark is green on green with a Wildcat 355 automatic and 86k miles. (355 tq, 300ci) I have some non digital pics of it somewhere.
      Right, I'm on the east coast as well, is what I mean
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      10-09-2012 06:36 AM #27
      Oh, I should have quoted initation when I said the 2,500 miles part. And we still aren't near you. We're think about keeping it, but it will sit for a little while longer.
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      10-09-2012 09:33 AM #29
      Just a clean restore. Not a balls-to-the-ground slammed thing. Maybe a little restomod.

      I dunno...maybe I just like old iron too much.
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      10-09-2012 10:29 AM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      If we did sell it after we got it running, it would probably be donked out a month after.
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      Vacuum the interior, get it running, and don't change a damn thing. That is past the point of hooptie and into 'rat' territory, and IMHO there's nothing more badass than cruising in a derelict American car.
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      Its a keeper ... take it apart and do a restoration. Put in a corvette engine on that thing!
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      Just a clean restore. Not a balls-to-the-ground slammed thing. Maybe a little restomod.

      I dunno...maybe I just like old iron too much.
      Any of the above outcomes are better than having it turned into soup cans.

      Personally, I'd keep the exterior as is and do a Duramax swap.
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      10-09-2012 10:38 AM #31
      I'd expect no more than scrap value out of it, but I'd try to sell it to someone interested in these cars for parts or whatever could help save others.
      Trofeo is scraptastic.
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      sprayed it on, waited some time, and proceeded to go at it with a scraper, some pliers, and a lot of f-ing hard work.

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      10-09-2012 10:46 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Big Dac With Fries View Post

      Personally, I'd keep the exterior as is and do a Duramax swap.
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      10-09-2012 10:47 AM #33
      We have an extra set of Rally wheels we can use and a few engines are laying around. I'm afraid you're right on the Trofeo though.

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      10-09-2012 11:13 AM #35
      Even though it would be good for a demo derby, it would be a very nice cruiser. The interior needs help though. Also not sure which 350 it has and how much power it came with, or if it's a Powerglide or a Turbo Hydramatic.
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      10-09-2012 11:14 AM #36
      Get it running, see if frame and floors are OK and then just vaccum it out and drive it

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      10-09-2012 11:36 AM #37
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      10-09-2012 12:51 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by SgtArky View Post
      I'd rather have the Olds Trefeo
      I'd rather have the 540i wagon in the background



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      10-09-2012 12:59 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by tampaSi View Post
      I'd rather have the 540i wagon in the background
      That's my dad's. It has 171,000 miles now. I'm considering leaving all the dents and not trying to find trim for it now when I get it running.

    15. 10-09-2012 01:15 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      Even though it would be good for a demo derby, it would be a very nice cruiser. The interior needs help though. Also not sure which 350 it has and how much power it came with, or if it's a Powerglide or a Turbo Hydramatic.
      it also appears to have no carb. how long did it sit without the intake manifold? it might be worth the time to take off the heads and see if its even worth messing with. it might be rusty inside the engine.
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      10-09-2012 01:18 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by Noah Fecks View Post
      it also appears to have no carb. how long did it sit without the intake manifold? it might be worth the time to take off the heads and see if its even worth messing with. it might be rusty inside the engine.
      It's been sitting for at least 5 years, but I'm not sure how long without the intake or carb. We will need to at least vacuum it out, because there was dead pine straw and other things in it.

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      10-09-2012 03:23 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      It's been sitting for at least 5 years, but I'm not sure how long without the intake or carb. We will need to at least vacuum it out, because there was dead pine straw and other things in it.
      Since it's been outside, you can bet that the engine is rusted in place. I'm working on a long-sitting engine, myself. It was inside, but it sat for nearly 20 years.

      It's soaking in Marvel's Mystery Oil right now. It's been doing so for about 2 1/2 weeks and it won't budge yet.

      In your case, since you're dealing with a small block Chevy, it might be cheaper (and definitely easier) to find a different engine.

      I'd give the project a "go" if it were me and I had the time. I give it
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      10-09-2012 03:43 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Since it's been outside, you can bet that the engine is rusted in place. I'm working on a long-sitting engine, myself. It was inside, but it sat for nearly 20 years.

      It's soaking in Marvel's Mystery Oil right now. It's been doing so for about 2 1/2 weeks and it won't budge yet.

      In your case, since you're dealing with a small block Chevy, it might be cheaper (and definitely easier) to find a different engine.

      I'd give the project a "go" if it were me and I had the time. I give it
      My dad said it's not locked. After doing some research, I found a crapload of 4 door hardtops on cardomain and only a few 2 doors. Well, it really was a luxurious car when it was new, so that probably explains why. There's a 70 4 door hardtop sitting around here. Probably for sale.

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      10-09-2012 04:17 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      My dad said it's not locked. After doing some research, I found a crapload of 4 door hardtops on cardomain and only a few 2 doors. Well, it really was a luxurious car when it was new, so that probably explains why. There's a 70 4 door hardtop sitting around here. Probably for sale.
      Awesome!

      Dump the oil out (it's full of acid and water) and do NOT spin it, as you're pumping that acidic oil up to the bearings. Put in some fresh oil and a filter before spinning it. Go ahead and put a bit of Marvel's Mystery Oil (or some ATF) in the cylinders, work out the problems with the running bits and don't forget to change all of the rubber fuel lines, filters (there may be a screen in the tank) and check the tank for flaky rust. If you don't clean a rusty tank, it will keep bugging you until you do.

      The 4-door '70 could be a great parts car if it's not worth restoring. Fenders, bumpers, hood, grille, interior, engine/driveline...
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      10-09-2012 04:22 PM #45
      Haven't seen the 4-door in person yet, just saw it sitting at a repair shop that also sells extra cars. Looks like my dad got yet another set of wheels. They look like late 2nd gen F body Z/28 wheels. I wonder how they would look on the Caprice.


    21. 10-09-2012 05:12 PM #46
      They're monte carlo SS wheels
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      10-09-2012 05:59 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      Even though it would be good for a demo derby, it would be a very nice cruiser. The interior needs help though. Also not sure which 350 it has and how much power it came with, or if it's a Powerglide or a Turbo Hydramatic.
      A 350 would have 255 to 300 hp gross (to be comparable to today's numbers, probably about 170 to 206 hp, based on 1971 net hp numbers)*. For Powerglide versus Turbo Hydra Matic, check if it has a 2-speed (PG) or 3-speed (THM) transmission.

      *Yes, the progress of technology is such that a four cylinder engine of less than half the size puts out comparable power today.

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      10-09-2012 06:40 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by tjl View Post
      A 350 would have 255 to 300 hp gross (to be comparable to today's numbers, probably about 170 to 206 hp, based on 1971 net hp numbers)*. For Powerglide versus Turbo Hydra Matic, check if it has a 2-speed (PG) or 3-speed (THM) transmission.

      *Yes, the progress of technology is such that a four cylinder engine of less than half the size puts out comparable power today.
      In that case, I'm going to need a power boost.

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      10-09-2012 09:24 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by IntrstlarOvrdrve View Post
      They're monte carlo SS wheels
      Never thought of that. Good catch.

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      10-09-2012 10:29 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by tjl View Post
      *Yes, the progress of technology is such that a four cylinder engine of less than half the size puts out comparable power today.
      Sure, but hook up that 4 popper to that behemoth and see if it can get out of it's own way. The torque curve even on a smogged 350 is pretty huge.
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