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    Thread: If a Touareg can tow a 747, a Tundra can tow the shuttle

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      10-08-2012 09:13 PM #1
      In doing some family planning (Highlander), I happened across an interesting snippet on Toyota.com. Apparently, the Tundra is going to be towing Endeavor to its final resting place. They currently have one video up about a Tundra about to tow 307000lbs (but dont show it doing so yet).

      Anyways as the kid of a Toyota engineer, I hope it doesnt flop in real life (apparently its going to be televised live). But MAN, 307000 lbs in what is claimed to be a stock Tundra with stock gears?

      Discuss if you wish, or not.


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    2. 10-08-2012 09:16 PM #2
      It proves definitely that the diesels are SO limited. j/k.
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      10-08-2012 09:16 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye(OH) View Post
      In doing some family planning (Highlander), I happened across an interesting snippet on Toyota.com. Apparently, the Tundra is going to be towing Endeavor to its final resting place. They currently have one video up about a Tundra about to tow 307000lbs (but dont show it doing so yet).

      Anyways as the kid of a Toyota engineer, I hope it doesnt flop in real life (apparently its going to be televised live). But MAN, 307000 lbs in what is claimed to be a stock Tundra with stock gears?

      Discuss if you wish, or not.


      The first primer video is on youtubehttp://www.youtube.com/user/ToyotaUS...?v=9huNSUY6s_4
      747-100 Weights 358,000lbs.

      VW 4 LIFEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!


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      10-08-2012 09:22 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by 03GTI4Me View Post
      747-100 Weights 358,000lbs.

      VW 4 LIFEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Yeah but come on, give the Tundra some credit. A V10 diesel vs a V8 gasser thats a bit long in the tooth?

      And honestly, that probably wasnt a 747-100 they towed. Those ****ers are few and far between these days. Id have to rewatch the video but, I just gave you some more ammo.

    5. 10-08-2012 09:22 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by 03GTI4Me View Post
      747-100 Weights 358,000lbs.

      VW 4 LIFEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
      That was a mock-up for movies with no engines. Much less than 300000lbs I'll bet.
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      10-08-2012 09:29 PM #8
      But what if the frame rusts and breaks while towing?
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      10-08-2012 09:31 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Saintor View Post
      That was a mock-up for movies with no engines. Much less than 300000lbs I'll bet.
      How much do you want to bet?

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      10-08-2012 09:39 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      How much do you want to bet?
      you by any chance work for vw or audi?

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      10-08-2012 09:47 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by apizzaparty View Post
      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

    11. 10-08-2012 09:54 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by 71DubBugBug View Post
      you by any chance work for vw or audi?
      BTW, the 747 that lugs the shuttle around is hollowed out to allow it to take off with more weight. Even empty it still weighs more than the shuttle...

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      10-08-2012 10:30 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by mikegilbert View Post
      But what if the frame rusts and breaks while towing?
      Came to post this. Leaving amused but bitter.
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      10-08-2012 10:35 PM #14
      It would be cooler if they pulled it with a 1952 International pickup.
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      10-08-2012 10:39 PM #15
      But the question is... the shuttle is with or without boosters? =P

      Either way I believe the toaureg could tow more seeing how it towed the 747. But props to Toyota.

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    15. 10-08-2012 10:53 PM #16
      This is such a crap 'advertising' way, but the public eats it up.

      As long as you can break the initial friction it is an easy job, trucks don't get their tow rating from pulling and object at 3 mph.

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    16. 10-08-2012 11:00 PM #17
      meh the Touareg nor the Tundra hold a candle to this


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      10-08-2012 11:14 PM #19


      Its all about gearing. I can tow the an aircraft carrier with a 1/2 hp single cylinder engine out of a leaf blower if I have the right gearing. It'll be slow, but it'll work.
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    19. 10-08-2012 11:16 PM #20
      Whatever, i'm sure some Belgian can tow a 747 with his nipples, it's not going to make me buy a belgian dude to haul my car trailer around.

      EDIT: Or the hairy dude using his balls. That video is validating exactly what I just said.
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      10-08-2012 11:16 PM #21
      Call me crazy......but shouldn't a truck made by one of the big 3 doing this job?

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      10-08-2012 11:18 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye(OH) View Post
      Yeah but come on, give the Tundra some credit. A V10 diesel vs a V8 gasser thats a bit long in the tooth?

      And honestly, that probably wasnt a 747-100 they towed. Those ****ers are few and far between these days. Id have to rewatch the video but, I just gave you some more ammo.
      If I recall correctly, It was a 747-100 (or -200) that is stored at the Top Gear test track. I think its used as a mockup for one of the BBC shows. It does have engines, but I think that they are engines from a different aircraft (VC-10 style).

      For the record, I am a Toyota (truck) fan. I loved my Tacoma.

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      10-08-2012 11:36 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by apizzaparty View Post
      never thought once to use my lefty for the brake. sorry in my opinion it is dumb.

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      10-08-2012 11:37 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Cubster View Post
      Call me crazy......but shouldn't a truck made by one of the big 3 doing this job?
      Its southern california, not middle america. It was designed and its built here = American

      Plus Toyota has its HQ in LA county so im guessing they got first dibs?

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      10-08-2012 11:48 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Cubster View Post
      Call me crazy......but shouldn't a truck made by one of the big 3 doing this job?
      Clearly you have to leave the RAM out of towing capabilities.

      It would be pretty bad if it fails so I'm assuming Toyota just planned it right...

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      Quote Originally Posted by czykvw View Post
      Its southern california, not middle america. It was designed and its built here = American

      Plus Toyota has its HQ in LA county so im guessing they got first dibs?
      That's not entirely true. Manufacturing HQ is in Erlanger, KY right outside of Cincinnati.

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      10-09-2012 09:47 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      meh the Touareg nor the Tundra hold a candle to this

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      "Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."

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      10-13-2012 09:02 AM #29
      Cool.

      But the Touareg still did about 35,000 lbs more AND pulled it in the wet.

      *edit* below it says the shuttle+trailer weighed 292,000 lbs, so the T-reg towed about 50,000 lbs more.
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      10-13-2012 09:10 AM #30
      4:55AM EDT October 13. 2012 - A Toyota Tundra pickup towed the retired space shuttle Endeavour across the freeway bridge in Inglewood, Calif., last night, a publicity coup that helped underscore Toyota's American connections.

      The shuttle is winding its way from Los Angeles International Airport to a museum near downtown Los Angeles. Most of the way, it is being towed by a tractor atop of high-tech rig. But for about 100 yards, the crews needed to lighten the load to get it across Manchester Avnue overpass to cross the San Diego Freeway.

      That's where the Toyota Tundra came in.

      As we've told you, Toyota has been practicing for months for the move. We learned last night that execs actually gave the operation an internal code name, Blue Ox, and that training began several months ago -- all for a move of about 100 yards.

      Indeed, the wait of few hours before the pull was mostly to get crews and equipment in place for the television commercial that Toyota is shooting. A director urged workers to pretend to inspect the rig carrying the shuttle at one point. "Give me a couple of guys in front of the tow hitch, please," he said.

      The pickup truck that did the pull was silver with two-foot-tall Tundra letters written across the side. On the front end was written "Born in America," making it clear that Toyota, a Japanese automaker, wants to use the shuttle pull to once again try to get Americans to think of it as an American maker. The Tundra is made in San Antonio.

      Even though it practiced for months, pulling the 292,000-pound trailer turned out to be no big deal. The engine never even revved hard. When the truck started effortlessly pulling the shuttle -- in four-wheel-drive low, naturally -- the crowd of several hundred broke into a "USA, USA" chant.

    30. 10-13-2012 09:36 AM #31
      Japanese thing towing America's Pride!

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      10-13-2012 10:10 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by RennbahnPolizei View Post
      Japanese thing towing America's Pride!
      It's a publicity stunt, just like the Touareg "pull".

      And Toyota took the risk. Could you imagine if the Big Three did this stunt and failed a 1/4 mile down the road? They'd never get over the embarrassment.
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      10-13-2012 10:17 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      It's a publicity stunt, just like the Touareg "pull".

      And Toyota took the risk. Could you imagine if the Big Three did this stunt and failed a 1/4 mile down the road? They'd never get over the embarrassment.
      Not really the same IMO. VW just rented a plane and airstrip and tugged it around. The retirement of something as significant as the space shuttle is something completely different.

      Personally I think an American truck should have done the pull, and I don't consider the Tundra an American truck.

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      10-13-2012 10:32 AM #34
      It's wrong, like the made in China Olympic uniforms.

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      10-13-2012 10:40 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Personally I think an American truck should have done the pull, and I don't consider the Tundra an American truck.
      As I said, it was likely a calculated move. The GM/Ford/Chrysler PR departments probably all passed on the opportunity because the risk/reward probably wasn't in their favor.

      I personally think that one of the Big Three should have done it too, but the damage to their reputation with thousands of people lining the streets and being televised by a national audience towing an American icon would be huge IMHO.
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