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    Thread: If a Touareg can tow a 747, a Tundra can tow the shuttle

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      10-09-2012 08:36 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by czykvw View Post
      Its southern california, not middle america. It was designed and its built here = American

      Plus Toyota has its HQ in LA county so im guessing they got first dibs?
      That's not entirely true. Manufacturing HQ is in Erlanger, KY right outside of Cincinnati.

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      10-09-2012 09:47 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      meh the Touareg nor the Tundra hold a candle to this

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      10-13-2012 08:39 AM #28
      "Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."

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      10-13-2012 09:02 AM #29
      Cool.

      But the Touareg still did about 35,000 lbs more AND pulled it in the wet.

      *edit* below it says the shuttle+trailer weighed 292,000 lbs, so the T-reg towed about 50,000 lbs more.

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      10-13-2012 09:10 AM #30
      4:55AM EDT October 13. 2012 - A Toyota Tundra pickup towed the retired space shuttle Endeavour across the freeway bridge in Inglewood, Calif., last night, a publicity coup that helped underscore Toyota's American connections.

      The shuttle is winding its way from Los Angeles International Airport to a museum near downtown Los Angeles. Most of the way, it is being towed by a tractor atop of high-tech rig. But for about 100 yards, the crews needed to lighten the load to get it across Manchester Avnue overpass to cross the San Diego Freeway.

      That's where the Toyota Tundra came in.

      As we've told you, Toyota has been practicing for months for the move. We learned last night that execs actually gave the operation an internal code name, Blue Ox, and that training began several months ago -- all for a move of about 100 yards.

      Indeed, the wait of few hours before the pull was mostly to get crews and equipment in place for the television commercial that Toyota is shooting. A director urged workers to pretend to inspect the rig carrying the shuttle at one point. "Give me a couple of guys in front of the tow hitch, please," he said.

      The pickup truck that did the pull was silver with two-foot-tall Tundra letters written across the side. On the front end was written "Born in America," making it clear that Toyota, a Japanese automaker, wants to use the shuttle pull to once again try to get Americans to think of it as an American maker. The Tundra is made in San Antonio.

      Even though it practiced for months, pulling the 292,000-pound trailer turned out to be no big deal. The engine never even revved hard. When the truck started effortlessly pulling the shuttle -- in four-wheel-drive low, naturally -- the crowd of several hundred broke into a "USA, USA" chant.
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      10-13-2012 09:36 AM #31
      Japanese thing towing America's Pride!

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      10-13-2012 10:10 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by RennbahnPolizei View Post
      Japanese thing towing America's Pride!
      It's a publicity stunt, just like the Touareg "pull".

      And Toyota took the risk. Could you imagine if the Big Three did this stunt and failed a 1/4 mile down the road? They'd never get over the embarrassment.
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      10-13-2012 10:17 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      It's a publicity stunt, just like the Touareg "pull".

      And Toyota took the risk. Could you imagine if the Big Three did this stunt and failed a 1/4 mile down the road? They'd never get over the embarrassment.
      Not really the same IMO. VW just rented a plane and airstrip and tugged it around. The retirement of something as significant as the space shuttle is something completely different.

      Personally I think an American truck should have done the pull, and I don't consider the Tundra an American truck.

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      10-13-2012 10:32 AM #34
      It's wrong, like the made in China Olympic uniforms.

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      10-13-2012 10:40 AM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Personally I think an American truck should have done the pull, and I don't consider the Tundra an American truck.
      As I said, it was likely a calculated move. The GM/Ford/Chrysler PR departments probably all passed on the opportunity because the risk/reward probably wasn't in their favor.

      I personally think that one of the Big Three should have done it too, but the damage to their reputation with thousands of people lining the streets and being televised by a national audience towing an American icon would be huge IMHO.
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      10-13-2012 11:00 AM #36
      How about a Peterbilt instead of a Big 3? There would have been no concern whatsoever.

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      10-13-2012 11:11 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by vwpiloto View Post
      How about a Peterbilt instead of a Big 3? There would have been no concern whatsoever.
      They are owned by the Dutch now.

      I wouldn't have any worries if you hooked up a 1-ton domestic diesel to it.

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      10-13-2012 11:37 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by RennbahnPolizei View Post
      Japanese thing towing America's Pride!
      per Wiki, the Tundra has never been made in Japan, only U.S.A.

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    14. 10-13-2012 12:38 PM #39
      There's a huge different between pulling or moving an object and towing it. What the Touareg and the Tundra are doing is just moving these things. The same stunt could probably have been done using a Polo and a Yaris.

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      10-13-2012 12:50 PM #40
      Still got a Japanese badge on the grill...

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      10-13-2012 02:12 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by RennbahnPolizei View Post
      Still got a Japanese badge on the grill...
      Then one of the Big 3 should have been sponsoring the California Science Center.

      People need to get over the political stupidity here. Toyota cultivated a relationship over the years that gave them this photo op. Deal with it.
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      10-13-2012 02:30 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by SSLByron View Post
      Then one of the Big 3 should have been sponsoring the California Science Center.

      People need to get over the political stupidity here. Toyota cultivated a relationship over the years that gave them this photo op. Deal with it.
      You know what. I am from Europe, so to me it looks just weird to see a Japanese branded truck tow the American flagged shuttle.

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      10-13-2012 08:37 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by slirt View Post
      per Wiki, the Tundra has never been made in Japan, only U.S.A.

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      10-13-2012 08:41 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      There's a huge different between pulling or moving an object and towing it. What the Touareg and the Tundra are doing is just moving these things. The same stunt could probably have been done using a Polo and a Yaris.
      Uh, no. Not a chance in hell.

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      10-13-2012 08:56 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Uh, no. Not a chance in hell.
      With enough gearing, theoretically, anything can move anything. But I agree, this guys completely wrong. The hard part is getting it moving.
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      10-13-2012 09:00 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      With enough gearing, theoretically, anything can move anything. But I agree, this guys completely wrong. The hard part is getting it moving.
      Bingo.

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    22. 10-13-2012 09:50 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      With enough gearing, theoretically, anything can move anything. But I agree, this guys completely wrong. The hard part is getting it moving.
      As you said "the hard part is getting it moving" but on a level surface it's not even that hard. Even the strongest man in the world does not have even close to the pulling power than either a Polo or a Yaris? This guy is far from the strongest man on the world yet he can get this 280 ton cargo plane moving.


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      10-13-2012 09:52 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      As I said, it was likely a calculated move. The GM/Ford/Chrysler PR departments probably all passed on the opportunity because the risk/reward probably wasn't in their favor.

      I personally think that one of the Big Three should have done it too, but the damage to their reputation with thousands of people lining the streets and being televised by a national audience towing an American icon would be huge IMHO.
      I disagree, sort'a.
      I don't know how this was arranged but any of the big 3 could have easily put together a test rig to see if their trucks were capable of towing the weight if NASA or whoever is responsible for the move put the offer out there. I seriously doubt that slowly towing this thing around would be outside of one of the Big 3's trucks capabilities. I see this as Toyota's marketing team stepping up and putting the offer to NASA, or whoever was responsible for the move. And good on them for doing it. The result is some impressive pics and videos that will surely get them tons of attention.
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      10-13-2012 10:20 PM #50
      Man that truck really got that thing rollin fast.

      Now I want a Tundra

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