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    Thread: Horrific Subaru Impreza accident 4 teens killed

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      10-09-2012 12:03 AM #1
      http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...and&id=8839043

      MALVERNE (WABC) -- The black Subaru was literally cut in half after slamming into a tree.

      It happened around 3:30 Monday morning on the Southern State Parkway heading west in Malverne.

      Friends of the victims came by the scene Monday afternoon.

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      They identified the victims as four young men from Queens, all 18 years old.

      "They were nice kids you know loved their families their friends, I just can't believe they're gone you know," said Kevin Perseud, a friend.

      Police say the driver, 17-year-old Joseph Beer from Queens, missed a curve in the road around exit 17.

      17-year-old Joseph Beer was behind the wheel and state police say he was driving with a Learner's Permit which means he should not have been on the road at that hour and should not have had his buddies in the back seat.

      According to the DMV, in New York City and Long Island, anyone with a Learner's Permit must be accompanied by a licensed driver who's older than 21 and they cannot be on the road between 9 p.m. to 5 a.m.

      The car swerved across two lanes, flew into the shoulder and hit several trees.

      "I heard a loud boom and felt my house shake," a neighbor said.

      The four victims were ejected.

      Neighbors who heard the bang rushed out to help but it was too late.

      "They were all on the highway scattered. There were like three bodies scattered like five feet from each other," said Michael Campo, a neighbor.

      "We actually found one young man wandering around the accident site. He didn't seem like he had a scratch on him. I don't know how he made it out of the car like that. He was a little disoriented and we asked him if he knew anyone else was in there and he said he thought so," said Pasquale Loungo, a neighbor.

      Now friends of the victims have deal with the pain of it all.

      They sorted through the debris all over the side of the road, taking away reminders of their friends.

      "I just have chills running through my body, I can't believe it happened," Perseud said.

      There are no words that will make the pain go away.

      Just showing up and being supportive is the best way to console the victim's families.

      That's what happened outside the Khan family house Monday night.

      18-year-old Chris Khan was one of the four teens killed in this horrific crash.

      "Right now, it's just devastating. Just devastating. They can't believe what happened," said Somdat Bhewan, victim's father.

      Somdat Bhewan lost his youngest son, 18-year-old Chris Khan, and he's struggling with the numbness and heartache that come with losing a child.

      "It didn't hit me just yet, but it's getting worse actually, yes," Bhewan said.

      "That's foolish you know. I don't know why he would do such a thing like that," said Kevin Misripersued, the victim's friend said.

      In this Guyanese community in Richmond Hill, Queens, anger, frustration and sadness is how friends of the victims are feeling.

      They gave Eyewitness News photos of happier times. They are ones they will cherish as they mourn the four lives cut violently short.

      "It's still hard to believe it. I can't get it through my head that it actually happened," said Travis Mahrana, victims' friend.

      "All I have is memories. It's just so sad," said Aliesha Hossein, victims' friend.

      "I hope it's an eye opener for these kids. It's not going to solve anything, but these kids sometimes when they look back in the wheel of the car, they've got friends, they get out of hand," said John Maharana, victims' friend.

      The investigation into the crash is continuing.




      I saw on the news tonight, I believe it's a 08-09' WRX STI based on the wheels and the grille badge.

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      10-09-2012 12:06 AM #2
      That is sad...

      But the driver's last name was really Beer?
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

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      10-09-2012 12:10 AM #3
      Wow talk about a horrible way to go . RIP
      Heart pumping antifreeze as I stand here.

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      10-09-2012 12:14 AM #4
      Someone should've grabbed a Beer and let him know how dangerous it is to drive with other teens at a young age

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      10-09-2012 12:15 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by volkstyle View Post
      Wow talk about a horrible way to go . RIP
      Yes- easily avoidable death involving young lives is always sad.

      And I will just say what I have been thinking- newish WRX, 17 year old driver... 3:30 a.m. Monday morning with several buddies in the car? That just sounds like something bad is going to happen.

      The extra weight of the passengers coupled with "how fast can it go" probably contributed to the fatal mistake.
      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

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      10-09-2012 12:18 AM #6
      RIP.

      If I had my car when I was 17, the same thing probably would have happened to me.

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      10-09-2012 12:30 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Gran Turismo View Post
      RIP.

      If I had my car when I was 17, the same thing probably would have happened to me.
      Same here!
      Especially a car like that!
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      10-09-2012 12:34 AM #8
      Reason number one why I would buy a turbo Legacy before I would buy a WRX: insurance rates because of situations such as this. Yes it is sad, but you can't protect kids from themselves.


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      10-09-2012 12:45 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Reason number one why I would buy a turbo Legacy before I would buy a WRX: insurance rates because of situations such as this. Yes it is sad, but you can't protect kids from themselves.

      Funny, cuz my Subarus cost less than my VWs ...

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      10-09-2012 12:56 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Funny, cuz my Subarus cost less than my VWs ...
      Do you have a WRX? An STi? No.

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      10-09-2012 01:01 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Do you have a WRX? An STi? No.
      Big differentiator right there. All "hot cars" such as that are high for a reason...
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      10-09-2012 01:01 AM #13
      Very Sad...

      But for one who gave that kid that car what were they thinking?? and No seat beats? Can't fix stupid...

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      10-09-2012 01:05 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by patrikman View Post
      Do you have a WRX? An STi? No.
      Owned a WRX prior to my GC8 and an STi back in 2007ish for about 6 months ... my GTI cost more than either of them. It largely depends on where you live, but suburban Cleveland was dirt cheap to insure.

      I paid $145/month for my STI, $135/month for my WRX, $100/month for my GC8 and my GTI VR6 was $155/month.

      This is all with $300k/$100k/$300k limits and $1000 collision and $250 comprehensive deductibles. I also have a very "unclean" record.

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      10-09-2012 01:06 AM #15
      You can blame a lot for this.
      I blame lack of proper driver's training. The first time you lose traction shouldn't be on a public road with people in the back, and yet, with our nanny-ass fear of showing kids that cars might be fun to drive fast, we feed them DARE-esq FUD.
      And once they break the rules and survive doing something their driver's training guy told them would kill them, they figure they can deal with anything.

      Your kids ae gonna do stupid **** in cars. Might as well have them know what counter-steering is.
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      10-09-2012 01:19 AM #16
      17 year old with a learner's permit and a WRX STi

      Kid probably made in convincing argument with the parents on how safe AWD is

      I've driven in that area many time when I was on college and yep there are white knuckled sections on the Southern State PKWY.

      At the end of the day, there's always going to be stories like this. I was in a similar situation when I was in college. I was in a brand new BMW E30 (goes to show how old I am ) 325i coupe owned by some rich foreign student. The car had one too many passenger with no one wearing seatbelts in the back. And on top of that, she was goin' at a pretty good clip on the Northern State PKWY. I remember how much we were all laughing b/c she was driving so fast on the twisty stretch of highway.

      I guess at the time it was funny but now that I think about it, I guess we were lucky to make it back to our dorms.

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      10-09-2012 01:21 AM #17
      All torn up!


      There was a wreck like that up here quite a few years ago.

      Car involved in that one?

      2006 Subaru WRX STi.

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      10-09-2012 01:22 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      I also have a very "unclean" record.
      Then you are not in any position to discuss normal or average rates. A GTI is also a performance vehicle, especially when equipped with the VR6.

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      10-09-2012 01:22 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
      17 year old with a learner's permit and a WRX STi

      Kid probably made in convincing argument with the parents on how safe AWD is

      I've driven in that area many time when I was on college and yep there are white knuckled sections on the Southern State PKWY.

      At the end of the day, there's always going to be stories like this. I was in a similar situation when I was in college. I was in a brand new BMW E30 (goes to show how old I am ) 325i coupe owned by some rich foreign student. The car had one too many passenger with no one wearing seatbelts in the back. And on top of that, she was goin' at a pretty good clip on the Northern State PKWY. I remember how much we were all laughing b/c she was driving so fast on the twisty stretch of highway.

      I guess at the time it was funny but now that I think about it, I guess we were lucky to make it back to our dorms.
      Honestly, any car made in the last decade or two can go fast enough to get an untrained driver in trouble.
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      10-09-2012 01:47 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      Honestly, any car made in the last decade or two can go fast enough to get an untrained driver in trouble.
      This. I could easily kill myself in my Civic; it will happily cruise at 180km/h (112 mph) and can get up to lethal speeds in urban areas without any problem.

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      10-09-2012 01:51 AM #21
      It's always sad to hear stories like this. R.I.P.

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      10-09-2012 02:09 AM #22
      "We actually found one young man wandering around the accident site. He didn't seem like he had a scratch on him"

      Ok so who was this kid that was relatively unscathed? Because it is usually the driver who walks away from an accident while the passengers die.

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      10-09-2012 02:11 AM #23
      I wonder if I am distantly related to any of them - I have a lot of guyanese family in that part of NY.
      RIP.
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      10-09-2012 03:01 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by aoj2108 View Post
      "We actually found one young man wandering around the accident site. He didn't seem like he had a scratch on him"

      Ok so who was this kid that was relatively unscathed? Because it is usually the driver who walks away from an accident while the passengers die.
      Yes, it was the driver.

      Yeah - five people in that car surely will affect the driving dynamics - especially dangerous at high speed on a road like that one (I've been on it many times, I have relatives just a few miles from the accident).
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    25. 10-09-2012 04:33 AM #25
      I see a whole stack of stupid leading up to this...but I normally try to cut kids a bit of slack. Tough though when you drive stupid, and don't buckle your seat belts...and don't have a proper license...AND have been given a car beyond your skill level.

      There was no way that was going to end well.

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