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    Thread: VW Up! or Kia Rio

    1. Member ABAcabby's Avatar
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      10-09-2012 12:42 PM #1
      Hi. These are the two options i've narrowed it down to. I live in Australia now and cars are really really expensive.

      If I get the Kia, it's going to be a base model, manual transmission 4 door (+ wendy brown/mocha paint - 1500$) for a total of $17,500 AUD (1.4l motor - 106 bhp, 100 ft lbs).

      If i get the VW, it's going to be a base model, manua transmission 4 door (in white - no additonal cost). The VW up comes in at $18,494 AUD (with the 3 cylinder motor spitting out 73hp and 70 ft. lbs)

      Hopefully i got those numbers right. Had to do some quick conversions... I test drove the Kia already and liked it alot. I know it's probably more car for the money, but i kind of like the unique factor of the VW, and the fact that i can't have it in the US (just moved here a month ago). The kia also comes with an unlimited km, 5 year warranty. I'm not sure the warranty is on the vw. I haven't gotten out to test drive it and i can't seem to find any info on the website or elsewhere regarding that topic.

      I'll probably do the typical modest suspension drop and a tasteful set of wheels. Here's two examples i like.










      Opinions? Input? anything you can tell me about these two cars that i might not know? Thanks.
      Last edited by ABAcabby; 10-09-2012 at 01:11 PM.

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      10-09-2012 01:04 PM #2
      The Up is cute, but the Rio is more car for the money.
      And I'd skip paying $1500 for special paint.
      :gift:

    3. 10-09-2012 01:06 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The Up is cute, but the Rio is more car for the money.
      And I'd skip paying $1500 for special paint.
      1500 is a lot for paint but do it if that's few colour you like.

      I'd get the up though.

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      10-09-2012 01:17 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by WhistlerYOW View Post
      1500 is a lot for paint but do it if that's few colour you like.

      I'd get the up though.
      x2 what he said.

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      10-09-2012 01:20 PM #5
      its a hard choice actually, the up nice car 3 cylinder really gonna save in the gas department. But the kia is a lot more car and cheaper,i would opt for the up just Becuase the 3 cylinder and it will save you in the long run.

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      10-09-2012 01:23 PM #6
      Are the prices quoted OTD? I believe Hyundai Australia has a deal for the new Elantra GT's for $20,199 OTD, and it is substantially more car.

      I've driven the new Rio hatch, and it reminds me of a 2000 Civic DX hatch but much more solid. It was fun to drive around, was spacious, and was very economical. Based on pictures alone, the RIo looks more 'premium' than the Up!. How are the prices on a base 5dr Polo?

      I bought my one way ticket to Sydney in Dec. I am leaning towards a used 2nd gen Mazda 6 hatchback. The Mk5/mk6 Golf's are very pricey used.

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      10-09-2012 01:45 PM #7
      call me a fanboi, but I think the up is cooler.
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      No. Smell has a very strong connection in the brain with feelings... or if you're walking past A&F you might think of that chick you fingerblasted when you were 15.
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      10-09-2012 01:50 PM #8
      What about a slightly used Polo?

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      10-09-2012 01:54 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by WhistlerYOW View Post
      1500 is a lot for paint but do it if that's few colour you like.

      I'd get the up though.
      Quote Originally Posted by AdrockMK2 View Post
      x2 what he said.
      Quote Originally Posted by x_GTI_x View Post
      call me a fanboi, but I think the up is cooler.
      stupid fanbois.

    10. 10-09-2012 02:00 PM #10
      The Up! is smaller, so I go with the Up!

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      10-09-2012 02:01 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by slide13 View Post
      stupid fanbois.
      Everyone that prefers a VW over a Kia is now automatically a fanboy? Noob.

    12. 10-09-2012 02:04 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by slide13 View Post
      stupid fanbois.
      Says the guy with the "Honda 4 LYFE" sig...

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      10-09-2012 02:17 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by slide13 View Post
      stupid fanbois.
      do you and C4 A6 make out on your spare time?
      Last edited by x_GTI_x; 10-09-2012 at 03:03 PM.
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      No. Smell has a very strong connection in the brain with feelings... or if you're walking past A&F you might think of that chick you fingerblasted when you were 15.
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      10-09-2012 02:35 PM #14
      I like the Up!
      Past: 1999.5 GTI, 2009 Jetta, 2009 Rabbit

      Quote Originally Posted by Roketdriver View Post
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      10-09-2012 02:54 PM #15
      No can lose. Flip a coin.
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      Mercedes typically makes awful manual transmissions and fantastic auto transmissions. Choosing the stick would be like saying, "Y'know, that Natalie Portman is pretty hot, but if she grew some hair on her legs and had a dong, she'd be just right."
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      10-09-2012 02:54 PM #16
      Rio. I don't see any compelling reason to get Up! over Rio. However, there are many reasons to get Rio over Up!.

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      10-09-2012 03:06 PM #17
      Judging by what pictures you chose, I'm thinking that you already have made up your mind and want the Up!.

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      10-09-2012 03:19 PM #18
      At least you have the option of looking at an Up! Stupid VWoA

    19. 10-09-2012 03:19 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by x_GTI_x View Post
      call me a fanboi, but I think the up is cooler.
      Same here...VW Up all the way.

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      10-09-2012 05:00 PM #20
      The Rio looks like it fights in the next class up to the VW, yet it's cheaper and most likely better equipped/better warranty. I have a few friends with small, newer Kia's (post Spectra/original Rio) and they seem to be holding up well. They all seem to like their cars.

      VW does small cars well, so don't count out the UP! (drive it first, obviously)... but I wouldn't buy it based on it being different/unavailable in the USA when you live in Australia. If something else is better/cheaper - it should earn your business.

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      10-09-2012 05:04 PM #21
      The idea behind buying an economy car that is worse and costs more money seems insane to me, but I'm not a Dubber.

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      10-09-2012 05:07 PM #22
      Wait a minute. You're asking a bunch of people who have certainly never driven one to evaluate/compare the two based on hearsay when you yourself can go drive one? You're doing it wrong!

      Now go out and test drive both then report back once you're made your decision. (this is not a request, I'd like a first hand account of the Up! ) It's the only way you'll really know. This is, of course, assuming one drives subjectively better than the other.
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      10-09-2012 05:08 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      The idea behind buying an economy car that is worse and costs more money seems insane to me, but I'm not a Dubber.
      Since you've never driven one, how exactly would you know this?
      Quote Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
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      10-09-2012 05:55 PM #24
      Unless you need more space, I'd go for "Up".

      KIA Rio are everywhere and the model gets replaced every couple of years or so. By the time you'll get used to the car it'll be superseded.

      Have you considered Fiat 500 ?
      The gloves are off, the wisdom teeth are out
      What you on about ?

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      10-09-2012 05:57 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Fritz27 View Post
      The idea behind buying an economy car that is worse and costs more money seems insane to me, but I'm not a Dubber.
      Do you only buy your stuff at K-mart and buy your food in bulk ?
      The gloves are off, the wisdom teeth are out
      What you on about ?

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      10-09-2012 06:36 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by MeineFolks'wagen View Post
      At least you have the option of looking at an Up! Stupid VWoA
      x2

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      10-09-2012 06:42 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by ABAcabby View Post
      I live in Australia now and cars are really really expensive.
      Holy crap. Congrats.

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      10-09-2012 06:52 PM #29
      saw an up in paris... not bad

    30. 10-09-2012 08:28 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      the model gets replaced every couple of years or so. By the time you'll get used to the car it'll be superseded.
      Most car companies do this to make their lineup fresh. This kind of things don't happen in Aussie land??

      As for the topic on hand, I haven't driven the VW so I can't comment. The Rio, on the other hand, I would recommend. I am not sure how features stack up, but the version here can be spec'd with a lot of bells and whistles not normally found in the segment. The car returns very good fuel economy, it rides well, and is a good driver.

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      10-09-2012 09:18 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by joe97 View Post
      Most car companies do this to make their lineup fresh. This kind of things don't happen in Aussie land??
      Of course they do. It's just KIA and Hyundai do that more often than others. Volkswagen tends to keep their models for around 4 years.
      The gloves are off, the wisdom teeth are out
      What you on about ?


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      10-09-2012 10:37 PM #33
      Not a bad car, but those are like flies, unless he is after a GTi version.
      The gloves are off, the wisdom teeth are out
      What you on about ?

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      10-09-2012 10:49 PM #34
      VW just because I don't like telling people I drive a KIA.
      "As anyone who has ever tinkered with an old BMW engine or looked out on to the wing of a jet can attest, pure response to engineering requirements can sometimes deliver just as much pleasure as a more intentionally aesthetic design process."

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      10-09-2012 10:52 PM #35
      wait when did you move to Australia????

      id go with the kia personally

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