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    Thread: What's so lackluster about the 370Z?

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      10-09-2012 04:57 PM #26
      If you track it, they don't seem to really have enough cooling (And I am not referring to the brake fiasco, which could be fixed with track pads).
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      10-09-2012 04:59 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      If you track it, they don't seem to really have enough cooling (And I am not referring to the brake fiasco, which could be fixed with track pads).
      IIRC, 2012+ have an oil cooler.

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      10-09-2012 05:01 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by 1990MoneyPit View Post
      IIRC, 2012+ have an oil cooler.
      Freaking finally, is it big enough?

      I like to think the real failure is that a person 6'4" can't fit in it with a helmet, but if that was the case, the cayman would be a flop too.
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      10-09-2012 05:02 PM #30
      Nissan said, "Welp, we really kicked the crap out of the 2010 Mustang GT, I guess we can rest on our laurels now."

      That was a mistake.

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      10-09-2012 05:16 PM #31
      It's a nice sports car. I was seriously thinking about buying one but it was just too impractical as a daily driver. I couldn't imagine driving one in everyday DC commute. Two seats don't help neither. Clutch and engine noise were not great. But as a weekend or track ride, I think it's great. It has plenty of power and handles great. I'm sure next Z will be even better.

    7. 10-09-2012 06:14 PM #32
      This car would be on my radar if it were a four seater.

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      10-09-2012 06:16 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post
      This car would be on my radar if it were a four seater.
      I still don't understand this.
      THIS:

      Does not make a car any more practical.

      And that's all you'd get in the 370z without making it look like a 280z 2+2 (eww).

      I'd actually consider it a downside as in many carpool lanes, they require 3 persons unless your car has 2 seats only.
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      10-09-2012 06:18 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post
      This car would be on my radar if it were a four seater.
      G37c?

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      10-09-2012 06:19 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by 10minutes View Post
      But as a weekend or track ride, I think it's great.
      Oh, one other thing about that. I was looking at these and I read a major complaint was that it doesn't come with an oil cooler for track duty, not even on the NISMO model.

      I'm unsure if they addressed that with the recent refresh.

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      10-09-2012 06:50 PM #36
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    12. 10-09-2012 06:54 PM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      Yet, neither the V6 mustang or camaro are really any better than the Z. They offer similar performance---for less money. Just because the Z doesn't wipe the floor with the V6 pony cars (except for the challenger) or even the Genesis, doesn't mean it's not competitive or that it's somehow masquerading as anything other than the 2 seat GT that it is.
      But the Z does wipe the floor with the V6 pony cars and except in straight line acceleration it performs just as well of not better than the V8 Pony cars. The only reason we don't hear about them as much is because as has been said, it's already on its 5th year of production.

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      10-09-2012 07:02 PM #38
      I REALLY like this.



      My first car love was the 300ZX TT, but I couldn't afford one, so my first car was a '71 240Z (username QWKDTSN is the license plate). I haven't paid much attention to the new Z cars. There are some things that really annoy me about the 350Z, but the 370Z is pretty cool. I will admit I never think about them when I think about sports cars, they sort of fly under the radar.
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      10-09-2012 07:13 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      But the Z does wipe the floor with the V6 pony cars and except in straight line acceleration it performs just as well of not better than the V8 Pony cars. The only reason we don't hear about them as much is because as has been said, it's already on its 5th year of production.
      And perhaps because its brake & cooling issues have taken it out of the discussion it really belongs in, which is "Sub-$50K sports car at home on the street or the track".

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      10-09-2012 07:15 PM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      And perhaps because its brake & cooling issues have taken it out of the discussion it really belongs in, which is "Sub-$50K sports car at home on the street or the track".
      That is part of the problem. The well publicized issues have reduced its credibility, even among those who will never use those tools. Imagine if the wrangler couldn't handle anything more complex than a fireroad. Even among people who would never take it down rubicon would shun it.

      Which is a shame because it did seem like a pretty sweet track car wen it came out.
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    16. 10-09-2012 07:18 PM #41
      Clutch is horrible.

      The Mustang GT has 100 more HP for the same price and V8 soundtrack and two seats more.

      Middle of the road car does nothing really good, nothing really bad. Fair weather fans died with the economy, only hardcore sports car guys left and they want used Porsches, not new Nissans.

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      10-09-2012 07:24 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by BluMagic View Post
      should be a 2+2 IMO
      I agree 100%. Just something to stuff my 5yo into.
      Currently taking Xanax for range anxiety.

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      10-09-2012 07:30 PM #43
      I don't think it's enough of an improvement vs 350Z.
      Yes, it's lighter. But it is also smaller, so it should've been more than 100lbs lighter (Base vs Base)
      Engine doesn't sound as good as VQ35HR. It makes almost the same amount of torque. They could've stuck with 3.5L, thus adding lightness.
      Looks... well, I think it's pretty ugly compared to the 350Z. That was, actually, the major deciding factor for me
      The interior is the only thing I congratulate Nissan on with this car. I don't particularly like the design but it is much better put together with superior materials

      I've heard a few people say that it was just disappointing given the progression of Z cars up to the latest one. I can't comment on that, as I don't have experience with older Nissans and Datsuns but there has to be some truth in that.


      Quote Originally Posted by BluMagic View Post
      should be a 2+2 IMO
      No.

    19. 10-09-2012 08:11 PM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by nm+ View Post
      I still don't understand this.
      THIS:

      Does not make a car any more practical.

      And that's all you'd get in the 370z without making it look like a 280z 2+2 (eww).

      I'd actually consider it a downside as in many carpool lanes, they require 3 persons unless your car has 2 seats only.
      Might not make it practical for you but it would make it usable for me. I have a Jeep Commander for practicality and I would not use a 370z as a daily anyway. I just relocated here in CO with my wife and two kids; having no extended family here and a child in special needs, it makes it near impossible for us to do anything in the weekends without the kids. So at this point, any two seater is not an option. Its really not that difficult to understand. Some people could use the extra seats.

      I looked at g37's but Infiniti's fit and finish does not justify the premium for me.

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      10-09-2012 11:37 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Dave Zero View Post
      Fair weather fans died with the economy, only hardcore sports car guys left and they want used Porsches, not new Nissans.
      My dad bought both.

      79 Porsche 930 and a brand new 09 370Z when it came out. Just rolled over 15,000kms this past weekend.
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      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      10-09-2012 11:46 PM #46
      I think they are great cars for the money, they just lack in the NVH department and their brakes are not track worthy.

      The arrival of the Genesis coupe, Mustang, and Camaro ate away from their market share dramatically.

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      10-09-2012 11:49 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      But the Z does wipe the floor with the V6 pony cars and except in straight line acceleration it performs just as well of not better than the V8 Pony cars. The only reason we don't hear about them as much is because as has been said, it's already on its 5th year of production.
      None of this is actually true. Acceleration wise, the V6 pony cars (at least with reference to the mustang and camaro) and the z are about the same--give or take a couple of tenths here and there. On the track, they're also about the same, at least according to the C&D Lightning Lap series which occurs at VIR. It's really a drivers race at this point.

      The current crop of V8 muscle cars will absolutely decimate the Z in acceleration and are also quite a bit quicker than the Z around the track (according to Lightning Lap times at VIR). When car and driver had their "best drivers car under $40k" issue, the Mustang GT also had lap times that were a fair amount faster than the Z and it was also judged to be a better drivers car. And for the price of a base Z with the sport package, you're right around the price of a Camaro SS with the 1LE package, which would decimate a Z around the track.

      The Z is a very nice package that does nicely against other 6-cyl options, but it's about $4k too much. The V8 pony cars are vastly better performance cars than a similarly priced Z.

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      10-09-2012 11:54 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by MFactor View Post
      Might not make it practical for you but it would make it usable for me. I have a Jeep Commander for practicality and I would not use a 370z as a daily anyway. I just relocated here in CO with my wife and two kids; having no extended family here and a child in special needs, it makes it near impossible for us to do anything in the weekends without the kids. So at this point, any two seater is not an option. Its really not that difficult to understand. Some people could use the extra seats.

      I looked at g37's but Infiniti's fit and finish does not justify the premium for me.
      I'm not sure the 911 seats would fit a child (and certainly not a child seat). I doubt a 370z's back seats would be any bigger. Not going to be challenger or even mustang sized.

      Quote Originally Posted by madmax2k1 View Post
      I think they are great cars for the money, they just lack in the NVH department and their brakes are not track worthy.

      The arrival of the Genesis coupe, Mustang, and Camaro ate away from their market share dramatically.
      The brake thing was a red herring. Anyone who tracks with half a brain puts on track pads.
      The problem was oil cooling.
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      10-10-2012 12:04 AM #49
      Not a fan of the styling- bulbous and overdone. Wish they would trim it down, make it more lithe.
      Also have heard about how bad the engine sounds at high rpm, definitely a problem in my book.

    25. 10-10-2012 12:08 AM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by 6cylVWguy View Post
      The Z is a very nice package that does nicely against other 6-cyl options, but it's about $4k too much. The V8 pony cars are vastly better performance cars than a similarly priced Z.
      The Z also weighs less and has a shorter wheelbase. I'm guessing that translates to a better driving feel that is hard may not come across when using numbers. That's probably just a personal preference though; like wanting the rumble of a V8.

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