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      10-09-2012 08:29 PM #1
      In a recent interview with Top Gear, Toyota GT-86 chief engineer Tetsuya Tada has confirmed that the new GT 86 is just the first of a series of three new sports cars set to be launched by Toyota. He also announced that the GT 86 is placed in the middle of the two future sports cars, with pricing obviously following in the same pattern.

      These two new sports cars will not include the long-rumored successor of the Supra. When asked about this, Tada said that it could be possible for Toyota to also offer such a model, but right now, the engineers are pretty busy developing the other two Toyota sports cars. It usually takes about five years to develop a sports car from conceptualization to production, so the odds of seeing anything for the Supra before that are not good.

      But back to the new sports cars... Will we be seeing successors for models like the Celica and the MR2/MR-S? Aside from these choices, there isn’t much left for Toyota to pick through and develop.


      http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar136025.html


      Oh yes...

    2. 10-09-2012 08:31 PM #2
      How would they slot the Celica and MR-2? Celica below the FT-86 and MR2 above or vice versa?

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      10-09-2012 08:34 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by surefooted View Post
      How would they slot the Celica and MR-2? Celica below the FT-86 and MR2 above or vice versa?
      Who knows if they will even bring back the Celica and/or MR-2. Could be just a couple brand new sports cars one under the GT-86 and one above possibly competing with Nissan's Z cars?

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      10-09-2012 08:42 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Who knows if they will even bring back the Celica and/or MR-2. Could be just a couple brand new sports cars one under the GT-86 and one above possibly competing with Nissan's Z cars?
      That sounds right to me. I'd be curious to see what's 'below' the already small and affordable 86.

      Would it be FWD? 2 seats or 4?

      I'm excited to see this, but after experiencing the FR-S' drivetrain first-hand I'm a little less so than I would have been.

    5. 10-09-2012 08:46 PM #5
      I could imagine a less powerful GT-86/FRS/BRZ based roadster as the lower model. Upper model is a crapshoot that really depends on where their price point is. All this really tells us is not to expect a mid 30's pseudo muscle/sports-car.
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      10-09-2012 08:49 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by JuanManuelFangio View Post
      I could imagine a less powerful GT-86/FRS/BRZ based roadster as the lower model. Upper model is a crapshoot that really depends on where their price point is. All this really tells us is not to expect a mid 30's pseudo muscle/sports-car.
      An 86 convertible is already greenlit to be introduced in the next year or two and it will cost more, not less, than the hardtop.
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      10-09-2012 08:44 PM #7
      The "more mass market and cheaper" I'm guessing will be a FWD sport coupe using a Yaris or Corolla drivetrain. Toyota used to build a bunch of cars like that - Sera, Paseo, etc. I don't think they could make an MR2-type car at a lower cost than the 86. The last MR2 was already around the same cost (inflation adjusted) as the FR-S, using nothing but parts bin engineering.

      The more upmarket car, who knows. A six cylinder Supra would of course be welcome. Personally, I'd love it if they built a sport sedan using the 86's platform.
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    9. 10-09-2012 08:47 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      Who knows if they will even bring back the Celica and/or MR-2. Could be just a couple brand new sports cars one under the GT-86 and one above possibly competing with Nissan's Z cars?
      I don't think they'll make a Z-fighter unless they can get much better than the Z's 18/26 mpg. I wonder if they won't do a lightweight roadster since they don't offer any convertibles in the US. MR2 doesn't seem likely since it didn't have much of a splash last time. I bet the other car is some sore of Veloster-type car though.

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      10-10-2012 01:31 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Ben010783 View Post
      MR2 doesn't seem likely since it didn't have much of a splash last time.
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      It's kind of understandable why it didn't make a splash...
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      10-09-2012 10:21 PM #11
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      10-10-2012 12:02 AM #12
      Maybe a hatch like the fx-16 GTS?

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      10-10-2012 02:26 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by gonzo08452 View Post
      Maybe a hatch like the fx-16 GTS?
      This made me excited!
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      ...cretinx tried to touch on this point above but if you check his post history it is fairly easy to tell that he is an imbecile. I have doubts that he can drive a nail, much less a car.

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      10-10-2012 09:41 AM #14
      I still say you guys are gonna be hella pissed when the first commercial staring a fat couple from Idaho talking about how sporty their new Solara is airs on TV. It's going to be all, "Rounded to the ground" with uber sporty things like "wheels" and "sleekness".
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    15. 10-10-2012 09:48 AM #15
      The Supra has always been a Z/RX competitor. If they are making a sports car above the ft86, then they are making a Supra successor whether it is called that or not.

      I say bring it.

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      10-10-2012 12:55 AM #16
      I'm thinking Celica. And hoping for MR2

      If done right, MR2 could be about the size of the GT86 with MR setup.

      New Celica would be a little larger. (2+2 or 4 seaters).

      A new Celica wouldn't be too bad.

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      10-10-2012 01:03 AM #17
      This is relevant to my interests.

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      10-10-2012 01:16 AM #18
      More awesomeness from Toyota, more fail from Honda.

    19. 10-10-2012 01:33 AM #19
      Chances are, the one below will be FWD.
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    20. 10-10-2012 01:40 AM #20
      Most likely we'll see a FWD vehicle in the likes of the Focus ST and GTI and a turbo GT-86.

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      10-10-2012 01:48 AM #21
      Luckily, with that little torque, unintended acceleration won't even kill you.

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      10-10-2012 02:23 AM #22
      I'm thinking one of them is definitely a successor to the Supra (even if they said it won't be), in the form of a 335xi/370Z Nismo/G37 IPL competitor.

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      10-10-2012 01:01 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      I wonder if they're developping a brand new engine for their top of the line sports car. Please, no hyrbid stuff.
      There was another thread here recently where Toyota said they are developing a new 2.0t, 2.5 4 and other engines with turbo and di instead of hybrids. This is a perfect application.

      I think the CRZ taught Toyota that were not ready for sport hybrids just yet

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      10-10-2012 01:08 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      There was another thread here recently where Toyota said they are developing a new 2.0t, 2.5 4 and other engines with turbo and di instead of hybrids. This is a perfect application.

      I think the CRZ taught Toyota that were not ready for sport hybrids just yet

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      I'm always down for a turbo 4, I think they're great but the nostalgic side of me really wants a new straight 6 to be developped for the top of the line sports car..oh well, at least BMW still makes them.

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