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    Thread: VWvortex Super Beetle Project - 500hp AWD Beetle

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      10-11-2012 06:38 AM #51
      Quote Originally Posted by jamie@vwvortex View Post
      I'm still looking for a set of steelies that will fit over the brakes so I can buy the crappiest, hardest, longest tread wear tires in the skinniest size I can find so I can inflate them to 60 psi and do AWD burnouts.
      Wait, what?

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      10-11-2012 07:25 AM #52
      I'm not a fan of the Beetle... But man, this thing is going to be awesome!

      Can't wait to see the finished product!
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      10-11-2012 07:33 AM #53
      This should be a nice build, the newest beetle looks so much better

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      10-11-2012 07:48 AM #54
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      It BEST have Porsche wheels. 19" Fuchs wheels from the Sport Classic! Please?
      Nope.

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      for wheels, make some VW full chrome convex plates..
      Nope.

      and the car needs to be brown. or monty green
      Nope.

      i now realized i may have more than just a slight interest in this
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      10-11-2012 08:19 AM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by jamie@vwvortex View Post
      I'm still looking for a set of steelies that will fit over the brakes so I can buy the crappiest, hardest, longest tread wear tires in the skinniest size I can find so I can inflate them to 60 psi and do AWD burnouts.

      A video of this is required now!

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      10-11-2012 08:27 AM #56
      I have this vision of Daisys with clip-on plastic petal overlays, so you can change your petal color to suit your mood. Or even bolt-on petal overlays.

      Please????
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      10-11-2012 08:28 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by jamie@vwvortex View Post
      I'm still looking for a set of steelies that will fit over the brakes so I can buy the crappiest, hardest, longest tread wear tires in the skinniest size I can find so I can inflate them to 60 psi and do AWD burnouts.

      Nice. Having attempted several AWD burnouts in my 3.6 V8 swapped 200 Avant, I don't know that I'd want to do that again. It made the worst noises and tried to stand up off the entire suspension. Odd feeling.

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      10-11-2012 08:31 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by brad@fifteen52 View Post
      Nope.



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      10-11-2012 09:44 AM #59
      Partially amused and partially annoyed that the prevailing conversation of a thread concerning '500hp AWD' centers around the wheels.

      What's next? Discussion on the coilovers or airbags?

      I really hate what the trends have become in the last 10+ years. Uggh.
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      10-11-2012 09:52 AM #60
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      10-11-2012 09:55 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Partially amused and partially annoyed that the prevailing conversation of a thread concerning '500hp AWD' centers around the wheels.

      What's next? Discussion on the coilovers or airbags?

      I really hate what the trends have become in the last 10+ years. Uggh.
      It might have to do with, and call me crazy, the fact that Brad from Fifteen52 (who will be providing the wheels) posted in the thread. But, who knows.
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      10-11-2012 09:57 AM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Partially amused and partially annoyed that the prevailing conversation of a thread concerning '500hp AWD' centers around the wheels.

      What's next? Discussion on the coilovers or airbags?

      I really hate what the trends have become in the last 10+ years. Uggh.

      Well, the wheels are like the only mystery surrounding the car, other than the paint color. They pretty much outlined everything that's going to be done to it.
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      10-11-2012 10:21 AM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Partially amused and partially annoyed that the prevailing conversation of a thread concerning '500hp AWD' centers around the wheels.

      What's next? Discussion on the coilovers or airbags?

      I really hate what the trends have become in the last 10+ years. Uggh.
      My thoughts EXACTLY.

      I love the new beetle.. there is definitely a red 2.5 in my future that will promptly get a turbo kit, H&R coilovers, Recaros, and some LM's
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      10-11-2012 10:26 AM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      I have this vision of Daisys with clip-on plastic petal overlays, so you can change your petal color to suit your mood. Or even bolt-on petal overlays.

      Please????
      You just want to play "he loves me, he loves me not".

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      10-11-2012 10:50 AM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by atomicalex View Post
      I have this vision of Daisys with clip-on plastic petal overlays, so you can change your petal color to suit your mood. Or even bolt-on petal overlays.

      Please????
      Daisy-shaped turbo-fans?

      Oh crap, sorry Josh & Derek - did it again.

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      10-11-2012 11:00 AM #66
      Oh yeaa this is cool

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      10-11-2012 11:13 AM #67
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Partially amused and partially annoyed that the prevailing conversation of a thread concerning '500hp AWD' centers around the wheels.

      What's next? Discussion on the coilovers or airbags?

      I really hate what the trends have become in the last 10+ years. Uggh.
      As stated previously, we have a really good idea what the hardware will be, how it will fit and function, so the only thing left is interior, paint (wrap?) color and wheels. In other words, deal with it. I don't normally sweat things like wheels, but in this case it's one of the few unknowns. I'm sure if we were dealing with the other two (paint and interior) it would be no different.
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      10-11-2012 03:28 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by brad@fifteen52 View Post
      Daisy-shaped turbo-fans?

      Oh crap, sorry Josh & Derek - did it again.
      This would be ok. Bear reps would be better.
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      10-11-2012 03:48 PM #69
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      10-11-2012 03:51 PM #70
      Going to be watching this!

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      10-11-2012 04:33 PM #71
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    22. 10-11-2012 05:08 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by 01tj View Post
      This should be a nice build, the newest beetle looks so much better
      100% agree...and in for this!

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      10-11-2012 06:48 PM #73
      Ok, since my Car Lounge buddies don't get out of here very often, I'll start CC'ing this thread with updates. Much larger photos can be found via the main project car page in the installment articles themselves HERE...

      [COLOR="navy"]04 - Cutting and Dismantling

      More progress has been made today and we have lots to go over like usual. The majority of the day was spent cutting and splicing pieces out of the Golf R and moving them over to the Beetle. The main piece of the puzzle that is an issue is the spare tire well on the Beetle. The Beetle spare tire well is designed to hold a full-size spare and it simply won't work with the Golf R's AWD and multi-link suspension carrier. The Golf R has a space-saver spare and the tire well is much smaller. So we need to move the spare tire well from the Golf R to the Beetle. It turns out that the space saver sheetmetal section isn't particularly expensive and rather than hack up the spare tire well from the Golf R we ordered a brand new replacement sheetmetal stamping to trim into place. More on that in a moment...

      We also removed the engine and trans from the Golf R and cracked open the transmission so we could install an SQS locking differential. Turns out we ran into a snag, but we'll get to that later.

      First the factory welds on the Golf R need to be drilled out. There is a cross member that connects the two rear spring perches that needs to be removed from the Golf R and transferred to the Beetle. In the photo below the spot welds are being drilled out one at a time:



      While that long process is moving forward, the seam sealer needs to be removed from the Beetle to get to the individual seams of the sheetmetal to make sure we're getting a nice clean cut. Seam sealer is nasty stuff and again this is a long process...



      In the photo below the cross member is freed from the Golf R and will be transplanted over to the Beetle.



      There are a number of things going on at one time here. The photo below shows the Beetle up on the lift and you can see that we've temporarily installed the H&R adjustable coilover suspension and the Volkswagen Racing six-piston brake setup so that we could take measurements for our custom wheel setup. We'll have more on the suspension, brakes and wheels later.



      So while surgery continues on the Golf R, the cutting and removal of the rear spare tire well from the Beetle starts. In the photo below you can see the area to be cut has been cleaned of seam sealer and marked and the cutting has begun. There is a slightly different access hole (two to be exact) for the Golf R saddle tank that is different than the Beetle's location, so that needs to be cut out as well:



      The Beetle tire well is removed:



      Then the remainder of the Beetle transverse cross member linking the two spring perches is removed to make way for the Golf R piece:



      And here is the Beetle with the necessary sheetmetal cleanly removed:



      The transverse cross member removed from the Golf R is test fit on the Beetle:



      In the photo below are the Beetle spare tire well on the left and the brand new Golf R space-saver spare sheet metal:



      After the black Golf R spare well is trimmed to fit, it is dropped in place to make sure everything fits properly. Tomorrow it will be welded, seamed and painted. So far so good:



      In other news the engine and trans were dropped out of the Golf R to get the transmission out so we can install a limited slip front differential for maximum performance. The SQS differential is a torque biasing limited slip front differential and was (up until last week) the only limited slip available for the AWD VW/Audi applications outside of pure racing differentials.

      So out comes the engine and transmission:



      Here the transmission is being disassembled:



      Once the stock differential is pulled out of the transmission, the ring gear needs to be drilled out and installed on our new limited slip unit.



      However... the aftermarket SQS limited slip we received is the wrong unit. So another unit is going to have to be shipped priority from Europe so we can get this buttoned up ASAP. Here is a photo of the SQS limited slip diff that we received:



      And in the last piece of news. If you remember back to our second installment we needed to use the Audi TTRS aluminum front subframe because the Golf R subframe wouldn't fit. That also means the aluminum Golf R lower control arms won't bolt directly to the Audi TTRS subframe, so we had to order TTRS aluminum lower control arms and those arrived today:


      So tomorrow we weld, seam and paint the rear floorpan of the Beetle to get that buttoned back up.

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