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    Thread: REFRESHED: 2013 Rolls Royce Phantom

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      10-10-2012 08:52 PM #51
      I don't know if I'd call the Phantom sophisticated, I think it's just built fantastically with amazing materials. It's a car you have to "feel" to appreciate, rather than reading stats IMO.
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      10-10-2012 08:56 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Avus View Post
      All the new cars need to add LED strips to show potential buyers "I am a new car". And this "refresh" is mainly for this...
      Main reason for adding LED lights is so to conform with new EU standards for daytime running lights. All new cars have got them.
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      10-10-2012 09:16 PM #53
      I don't know about all of you guys but I like it.
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      10-10-2012 09:19 PM #54
      truthfully I haven't seen one of these in probably two years, almost forgot RR still existed let alone this car. And this is living in a town where Lamborghini, new 911, random F cars and S, E, G-wagon sightings are a daily occurrence.

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      10-10-2012 09:35 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      All I know is you can set different temperatures between the top vents and the bottom vents that go to your feet, kinda neat


      Is this not common? My VW does this. I would think many modern cars do.




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      10-10-2012 10:26 PM #56
      I'd like to see the rear seat

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      10-10-2012 10:31 PM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by B3passatBMX View Post
      I always forget how enormous these are till you pass one. They're the size of a midsize truck.
      Looks better in person too. I always do a head snap when I spot one.
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      10-10-2012 10:32 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by jrmcm View Post
      I've seen them before. It puts me to sleep. Exquisite materials packed in a completely unimaginative box which excels at impressing people you don't know.

      I know, I know... Here come all of the completely subjective buzzwords that drive people batsh!t crazy, but for me it's true. Vintage Rolls exude style, sophistication, imagination, grace. To me, this is a better equipped and more expensive Camry. An appliance the same, just for the wealthy.
      Well you must be totally narcoleptic in your cx-9, I seriously doubt you have seen a phantom on the road rolling in real life, nothing about the car is sleepy, it exudes style and presence like no other car in recent memory and it looks much better than any of the RR's since the silver cloud of the 50s and 60s.

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      10-10-2012 10:33 PM #59
      Quote Originally Posted by RENOG View Post
      Regardless.....I liked the round lights better..
      I agree. It wouldn't stop me from buying one, but the front looks a bit more bland now. I'm sure you'll still be able to spot them from a mile away though.

      I personally LOVE the Phantoms and would buy one if I hit the power ball. So comfy.

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      10-10-2012 10:41 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by shaykes View Post
      Well you must be totally narcoleptic in your cx-9, I seriously doubt you have seen a phantom on the road rolling in real life, nothing about the car is sleepy, it exudes style and presence like no other car in recent memory and it looks much better than any of the RR's since the silver cloud of the 50s and 60s.
      "exudes style and presence"... such meaningless words.

      It only does that because you know it costs a lot of money. If someone built a $25k car with the exact same body shape, it'd be the dullest, most unimaginative faux-luxury bauble on the planet.

      Yes, they're still built well and much by hand and all that's fine. I'm just not impressed with anything beyond that. It looks boring. Not sophisticated; sophistication implies an appreciation for design, a ceertain artfulness and grace. This isn't graceful, it's a vulgar block of granite.
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      10-10-2012 11:12 PM #61
      Its weird, I was just driving one of these today. Loathed it for a few reasons.

      The very high beltline and enormous shape/long hood made it very nerve racking to drive on the street. Just waiting to get smacked by a Kia. Also, it has this big, skinny steering wheel like a 70's luxo-barge and lock to lock takes ages. Its like driving an old british man around town. Rich and lumbering.
      The interior reminded me of starbucks bathroom, wood, soft lighting and brushed metals, not my thing. Also, its has this goofy "reserve power" gauge

      What I can tell you is that for the money, a Maybach is more handsomely styled, drives/feels better and is much more comfortable. Feels rich and modern, like being in a jet.
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      10-10-2012 11:16 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by PowerDubs View Post
      Is this not common? My VW does this. I would think many modern cars do.




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      10-10-2012 11:23 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by jrmcm View Post
      I've seen them before. It puts me to sleep. Exquisite materials packed in a completely unimaginative box which excels at impressing people you don't know.

      I know, I know... Here come all of the completely subjective buzzwords that drive people batsh!t crazy, but for me it's true. Vintage Rolls exude style, sophistication, imagination, grace. To me, this is a better equipped and more expensive Camry. An appliance the same, just for the wealthy.
      Really? I think the Phantom was the model that returned Rolls Royce to its roots. In the 60s they made great cars, but the 80s models were getting pretty lackluster and the 90s were just painfully dull retirement-mobiles. The Phantom was a breath of fresh air and made ultra luxury cool again.

      I mean, look at this thing. White wall tires, really? It's like a really expensive Buick Century.


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      10-10-2012 11:30 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      "exudes style and presence"... such meaningless words.

      It only does that because you know it costs a lot of money. If someone built a $25k car with the exact same body shape, it'd be the dullest, most unimaginative faux-luxury bauble on the planet.
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      I disagree, the car has a ton of road presence. And if someone built a 25k clone, it would also have a ton of road presence. The size helps, so does the attention to detail when up close.

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      10-10-2012 11:37 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by Vwgeist View Post

      What I can tell you is that for the money, a Maybach is more handsomely styled, drives/feels better and is much more comfortable. Feels rich and modern, like being in a jet.
      Seeing as we're discussing opinions, I'll just say a Maybach looked to me like someone took a perfectly nice S-class and screwed it up with tacky adornments. And I love big Mercedes, but Maybach never got it right, and buyers agreed by not buying enough of them to keep Maybach alive.

      I got to drive a Phantom a few times, it was a pretty easy car to glide along in. Their size gives them presence, but I'll miss the round headlights - the new front reminds me more of a bad Chrysler 300 limo conversion for some reason.
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      10-10-2012 11:43 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      "exudes style and presence"... such meaningless words.

      It only does that because you know it costs a lot of money. If someone built a $25k car with the exact same body shape, it'd be the dullest, most unimaginative faux-luxury bauble on the planet.
      Hmm, the Chrysler 300 is a relatively cheap car with lots of Rolls type bling in a smaller package and that car has often been praised for its style and "cool" factor even if the rest of the car was dynamically lackluster.

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      10-10-2012 11:44 PM #67
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      10-11-2012 12:42 AM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      ...I'll just say a Maybach looked to me like someone took a perfectly nice S-class and screwed it up with tacky adornments. And I love big Mercedes, but Maybach never got it right, and buyers agreed by not buying enough of them to keep Maybach alive.
      You make an excellent point and I agree. The few Maybachs I have seen were actually traded in for a 6.3 or something similar. In fact, a basketball player came in last week, traded in his flat black May for two Mercs
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      10-11-2012 01:21 AM #69
      Quote Originally Posted by geofftii2002 View Post
      I really want to drive one of those. I've driven just about every other modern era Rolls and I'd really like to see what that is like. I bet it's other-worldly.
      I drove the Ghost a couple weeks ago and it was nice but nothing mind-blowing

      Seeing pictures of a Phantom in isolation doesn't do it justice because in person they are HUGE. I swear it's as big as some SUVs. Not exactly my style but it definitely does it's job well
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      10-11-2012 04:27 AM #70
      Quote Originally Posted by J-Tim View Post
      Main reason for adding LED lights is so to conform with new EU standards for daytime running lights. All new cars have got them.
      These cars (like all cars) were already offered in many countries with daytime running lights. No need to add LED lights for that.

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      10-11-2012 04:48 AM #71
      I prefer the refreshed front end.

      The Bentley Mulsanne is much more appealing to me though.





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    22. 10-11-2012 03:56 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by thetopdog View Post
      I drove the Ghost a couple weeks ago and it was nice but nothing mind-blowing
      The ghosts rear end just seems underwhelming

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      10-11-2012 04:55 PM #73
      Quote Originally Posted by shaykes View Post
      Well you must be totally narcoleptic in your cx-9, I seriously doubt you have seen a phantom on the road rolling in real life, nothing about the car is sleepy, it exudes style and presence like no other car in recent memory and it looks much better than any of the RR's since the silver cloud of the 50s and 60s.
      It's a grocery getter and people hauler (the CX-9). I can't even begin to fathom why you'd bring it up in relation to my opinion about the Rolls.
      And truly, I'm not too interested in what you doubt.

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      10-11-2012 04:58 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      Really? I think the Phantom was the model that returned Rolls Royce to its roots. In the 60s they made great cars, but the 80s models were getting pretty lackluster and the 90s were just painfully dull retirement-mobiles. The Phantom was a breath of fresh air and made ultra luxury cool again.

      I mean, look at this thing. White wall tires, really? It's like a really expensive Buick Century.

      The key word in my post was "vintage". 1992 is not "vintage" (mainly because the assertion makes me feel old).

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      10-11-2012 04:58 PM #75
      Quote Originally Posted by AKADriver View Post
      This isn't graceful, it's a vulgar block of granite.
      Dead on

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