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    Thread: MT Comparison - 2013 Buick Verano Turbo vs. 2013 Acura ILX

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      10-10-2012 08:15 PM #1
      What's the deal with Honda and noise levels, do they not put any sound insulation in their cars or something?

      Seems like a problem since the beginning of time.

      Congrats to Buick, the Verano has been getting great reviews!

      MT Comparison - 2013 Buick Verano Turbo vs. 2013 Acura ILX

      http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._verano_turbo/



      First Place: Buick Verano Turbo
      If you insist the Verano is a fancy Cruze, then it's a Cruze that is using its gym membership, taking dance lessons, and is ready for bigger things in life. It's a soft-spoken, well-executed four-door for the true adult.

      Second Place: Acura ILX 2.4
      Identity crisis? It's a hoot to drive, thanks in large part to its Civic Si roots. Should fare well with the Honda faithful, but how many ordinary-Joe buyers are looking for a noisy luxury car you have to rev up to really enjoy?

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      10-10-2012 08:17 PM #2
      I'm biased toward Honda over GM, but I really enjoyed the 2.4L ILX.

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      10-10-2012 08:21 PM #3
      Between those two it's not even close in my opinion...Verano Turbo.

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      10-10-2012 08:30 PM #4
      Why didn't they compare against the 2.4 Verano?

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      10-10-2012 08:34 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by uncleho View Post
      Why didn't they compare against the 2.4 Verano?
      Top trim level vs. top trim level. Their as-tested price is within $100 of each other.
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      10-10-2012 08:35 PM #6
      The Buick deserved the win, no doubt about it. It was shameful of Honda to launch this vehicle without the Earth Dreams engines that are just around the corner IMO.

      With that said, if you buy your cars, I would bet the Acura will command far more when it comes time to trade it in than the Buick.

      Edit: Maybe I should read the article before posting next time (what a novel concept). I'm honestly shocked that the ILX was not only faster, but returned better fuel economy (+2.7 MPGs). Couple this with the better shifter in the ILX and I know where my money would go, slightly noisy cabin or not.
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      10-10-2012 08:44 PM #7
      I like Honda, but I'd go for Koreans in this particular case.
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      10-10-2012 08:46 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Top trim level vs. top trim level. Their as-tested price is within $100 of each other.
      Bingo. So much fail with the ILX
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      10-10-2012 08:51 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Bingo. So much fail with the ILX
      Honestly, how so? I was prepared for the difference to be significant, but the Acura is faster to 60, more fuel efficient, and offers nearly identical braking/skidpad/slalom performance.
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      10-10-2012 08:53 PM #10
      Don't love the Buick looks, or the Acura's but I'm going with 260 ft/lbs of torque and slightly less boring looks.
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      10-10-2012 08:56 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Honestly, how so? I was prepared for the difference to be significant, but the Acura is faster to 60, more fuel efficient, and offers nearly identical braking/skidpad/slalom performance.
      Simple. The Verano doesn't seem like a tarted up Cruze while the ILX seems like an expensive Civic.
      "Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."

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      10-10-2012 08:59 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Simple. The Verano doesn't seem like a tarted up Cruze while the ILX seems like an expensive Civic.
      Maybe that's because the Cruze isn't offered with a higher powered engine like the Civic. Aside from powertrain, the IXL is just as far removed from the Civic as the Verano is from the Cruze. It shares not one panel w/ it's lower priced brother.

      Side note: Still can't believe the Verano weighs as much as a Sonata 2.0T (A full 500 lbs. more than the ILX). I guess we know how they made the interior so quiet.
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      10-10-2012 09:09 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Maybe that's because the Cruze isn't offered with a higher powered engine like the Civic. Aside from powertrain, the IXL is just as far removed from the Civic as the Verano is from the Cruze. It shares not one panel w/ it's lower priced brother.
      That could be part of it. It just seems as though if I wanted a sporty Honda compact, I'd probably just get a Civic Si. The ILX just doesn't make a compelling argument for itself compared to the Civic IMHO. The ILX is a sideways move, plus you're paying out the ass for it.

      Now on the other hand, I consider the Verano to be a major step up from the Cruze. It seems to be more of a leap instead of a sidestep.
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      10-10-2012 09:21 PM #14
      Why doesn't the ILX have the Si's limited-slip differential?
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      10-10-2012 09:51 PM #15
      I don't like the ILX, at all. But, call me shallow, I don't want to own a Buick. IMO, at $28k, my TSX is a better choice than either of those,

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      10-10-2012 10:52 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Edit: Maybe I should read the article before posting next time (what a novel concept). I'm honestly shocked that the ILX was not only faster, but returned better fuel economy (+2.7 MPGs). Couple this with the better shifter in the ILX and I know where my money would go, slightly noisy cabin or not.
      I was somewhat surprised about the stats as well. But while the ILX on paper does stack up far better than I would have guessed, unfortunately I don't think it will mean diddley for the people shopping this car. I think Buick did its homework and targeted what this market wants much better than Acura, and that market is certainly not generation Y like the article proffers.

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      10-10-2012 10:59 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by DrewSXR View Post
      What's the deal with Honda and noise levels, do they not put any sound insulation in their cars or something?
      If I remember the ILX press release Honda is putting a reliance on active noise cancellation.

      I'm sure the turbo vs NA impacted this as well. No need to rev up the Verano.
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      10-10-2012 11:00 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by jwaters943 View Post
      Maybe that's because the Cruze isn't offered with a higher powered engine like the Civic. Aside from powertrain, the IXL is just as far removed from the Civic as the Verano is from the Cruze. It shares not one panel w/ it's lower priced brother.

      Side note: Still can't believe the Verano weighs as much as a Sonata 2.0T (A full 500 lbs. more than the ILX). I guess we know how they made the interior so quiet.
      I've ridden in the Verano and it's put to good use. That damn thing is SOOO refined. I remember reading somewhere that it's sound levels are better than an LS460. I don't know if that is true, but I would not be shocked.

      If I was looking for a car out of these two I'd go with the Buick. 0-60 times aren't that important in cars like this(and the Buick is faster at highway speeds anyway), but the refinement is and the Verano has that in spades.

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      10-10-2012 11:02 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      I don't like the ILX, at all. But, call me shallow, I don't want to own a Buick. IMO, at $28k, my TSX is a better choice than either of those,
      At $28K you're getting a fairly stripper TSX aren't you? When we priced out a Verano(non-turbo) it was about $27K fully loaded(with optional wheels and everything)

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      10-10-2012 11:06 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by HaterSlayer View Post
      At $28K you're getting a fairly stripper TSX aren't you? When we priced out a Verano(non-turbo) it was about $27K fully loaded(with optional wheels and everything)
      There is no stripper TSX, it's just tech (nav/upgraded stereo) or non, AT or stick, V6 or 4. Base has HiDs, Bluetooth, auto climate, decent stereo, etc.

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      10-10-2012 11:09 PM #22
      Crazy that the ILX was quicker and yielded notably better mileage, despite the need to wring it out to get at the performance. If there were ever a lesson that lighter is better...

    23. 10-10-2012 11:13 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Bingo. So much fail with the ILX
      I don't understand how anyone could say this after reading this article. The only place where the Verano did better was in interior noise level and midrange passing power and the difference is negligible at best. If you say one car is a failure then you must accept the other is as well. The only difference between the two is one seems to be more quiet and isolated and the other more playful and boisterous, there are people who prefer one or the other.

      Personally I think both are nice vehicle, my only problem with them is I feel both are about $5K overpriced.

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      10-10-2012 11:15 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stack View Post
      There is no stripper TSX, it's just tech (nav/upgraded stereo) or non, AT or stick, V6 or 4. Base has HiDs, Bluetooth, auto climate, decent stereo, etc.
      More or less true, but the 2013 TSX starts at $31,405 including destination.

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      10-10-2012 11:19 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by koko12 View Post
      I don't understand how anyone could say this after reading this article. The only place where the Verano did better was in interior noise level and midrange passing power and the difference is negligible at best. If you say one car is a failure then you must accept the other is as well. The only difference between the two is one seems to be more quiet and isolated and the other more playful and boisterous, there are people who prefer one or the other.

      Personally I think both are nice vehicle, my only problem with them is I feel both are about $5K overpriced.
      This.

      The utter disdain and hyperbole directed at Honda in this place has become quite ridiculous...and predictable. At least one poster on here seriously tried to draw parallels between the ILX and the Cimarron in another thread.
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