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    1. 10-12-2012 08:24 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by turkey_club View Post
      Im not sure how fun to drive these are, but IMO they look nice and the interior is a nice place to be.
      Quote Originally Posted by UNBANNED_GERBIL View Post
      Phew!!! Thank goodness it's a VW troll thread. If it were a Hyundai troll thread the bukkake faced fanboys would be frothing at the mouth

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      10-12-2012 10:33 AM #27
      Maybe I'm reading too much into what you asked for, but when you said you wanted something reliable what I heard was, "I don't want to spend a ton of money on maintenance". That would rule out the BMW, Subaru, VW, and Audi suggestions (I just replaced the second throttlebody in five years on my car at $400, the fluids are stupidly expensive and when small things break they are often picey to replace so don't tell me VW's don't cost a lot to maintain). The Mini seems like a good option, but that's based on my ignorance of their maintenance costs, however, they are considered a premium brand and will likely price parts and service based on this. They also tend to hold their resale value very well, which means one in your price range is going to be beat up and/or high mileage.

      As I pointed out in my initial post, tire cost is something that you should consider. You won't ahve to do it too often, but if you get an all out sports car like the S2k it'd be a waste not to put good, stick rubber on there, at which point you're going to go through tires much more quickly and they're going to cost a hell of a lot more. The Fit has tony little wheels with tiny little tires which means they're cheaper to replace.

      Small and lightweight is where you want to go with this.

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      10-12-2012 10:40 AM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by josh_did_what View Post
      Im not sure how fun to drive these are, but IMO they look nice and the interior is a nice place to be.
      I had one (03 6MT V6). One wheel burnies. Not all that fun due to size/handling.

    4. 10-12-2012 10:40 AM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by mookieblaylock View Post
      rwd sucky on ice, requires much more attention in winter
      Any wheel drive sucks on ice. Did you mean rwd sucks in snow?

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      10-12-2012 11:05 AM #30
      2.5 mazda3?
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      10-12-2012 12:12 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Samsquam View Post
      HA!!! 93 and up doesnt fit the vw bill of reliable. let me know when your new "rabbit" hits 400,000 km's like mine has a week ago. old vw trumps any new vw in reliability.
      LOLOLOL. I bet your cave is also more reliable than my house.

      Quote Originally Posted by feels_road View Post
      I don't know about that. A newer 2.5 MT Golf with the 170hp 2.5 is pretty quick. Also, they are the most reliable car VW has ever built (more reliable than the average Honda or Toyota, according to Consumer Reports). Certainly much more reliable than anything else on your list.
      Yep, 2.5 MkVs are actually quite peppy, at least when it comes to around-town low-end torque. Get one with a manual trans and you'll probably enjoy driving it, although you may miss the turbo rush of your 2.0t.
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      10-12-2012 12:22 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by FuelInMyVeins View Post
      8th gen Si or Accord V6. You might also try to find Acura Cl Type S 2003 with manual, but those are rare to find.
      I'll go along with these. /obvious bias

      Quote Originally Posted by Robski92 View Post
      Prelude
      Also a good choice if OP doesn't mind driving an older car. However, at nearly 3000lb it's not exactly leaps and bounds more agile than the 7th-gen Accord V6 and is much less powerful. I do like the SH ATTS though, and the Accord has an open diff.

      Quote Originally Posted by josh_did_what View Post
      Im not sure how fun to drive these are, but IMO they look nice and the interior is a nice place to be.
      I think mine is quite fun to drive despite having the 5AT. With a 6MT they are very speedy...like low 6s to 60mph.

      Quote Originally Posted by sandiegan View Post
      I had one (03 6MT V6). One wheel burnies. Not all that fun due to size/handling.
      Compared to what, though? An S2K or ITR, sure. But at around 3200lb they are not that big.

      Quote Originally Posted by iggysju View Post
      Any wheel drive sucks on ice. Did you mean rwd sucks in snow?
      The S2K will be even worse due to low weight and frisky suspension. Big diff between that and a big, solid 5-series or something in the snow.

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      10-12-2012 01:39 PM #33
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      10-12-2012 01:51 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      2.5 mazda3?
      I was looking at these and mazdaspeed 3's as well...dont mazdas have awful rust problems though? My uncle has an MPV (pretty sure that's the name) minivan and the rust is unbelieveable...pretty sure it's an '03 or '02 though.

      That being said, mazdas do catch my eye from time to time.

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      10-12-2012 01:54 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by turkey_club View Post
      My dad had one of these (albeit sedan and auto) and it was an all around good car. Thats actually the car we traded for my Jetta

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      10-12-2012 02:40 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by mhjett View Post
      Yep, 2.5 MkVs are actually quite peppy, at least when it comes to around-town low-end torque. Get one with a manual trans and you'll probably enjoy driving it, although you may miss the turbo rush of your 2.0t.
      yep, and they sound great with an exhaust, and can get quicker with a chip and intake

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      10-12-2012 03:01 PM #37
      If you're going with a VW stay away from naturally aspirated if you want to go faster. I mean, you will go faster with mods, but HP gained per dollar spent on mods is a lot lower than with a forced induction engines. Forced induction and high displacement engines give you much more out of mods and tuning that 4-6 cylinder N/A engines. Trust me, been there, done that, never going back unless I have a weekend car to have fun in (or unless it's an M3)

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      10-12-2012 03:04 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      Compared to what, though? An S2K or ITR, sure. But at around 3200lb they are not that big.
      Despite similar weight, 5th gen Prelude is leagues more agile (I had a '98 for five years). The Accord handles like just that -- a 2000's era bloated family sedan, with a lot of power.

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      10-12-2012 03:59 PM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by sandiegan View Post
      Despite similar weight, 5th gen Prelude is leagues more agile (I had a '98 for five years). The Accord handles like just that -- a 2000's era bloated family sedan, with a lot of power.
      Hmm. I don't feel that way, but maybe that's because the car is my 'other car'. If it were my daily driver I might notice the extra weight more, but as it is now, whenever I get in the Accord I cherish the longer WB and extra room.

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      10-12-2012 07:22 PM #40
      ^^^ That does not look good!! ^^^ Then again, neither does the Honda...

      Don't know exactly where you are in upstate NY, but in general, this is one of the worst areas in the country for salt. They just use an enormous amount of it on the roads so any car driven in winter here will have rust everywhere. I wouldn't touch an older Mazda around here - 5 year old ones are known to have rusted through fender wells. I also don't drive anything remotely special through the winter here. Even a single winter will mark the car for life.

      How about a Volvo C30? They are probably a little bit out of your price range, but they are unique, available with a manual and a T5 motor, are good in the snow, and Volvo's rust less than almost any other brand.

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      10-12-2012 07:25 PM #41
      My vote would be for a 1st gen TSX 6-speed manual.

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      10-12-2012 07:32 PM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by josh_did_what View Post
      $13k should get a great example of this:



      If you can find one.
      Yeah, if you're looking at 8th gen si's may as well check these out as well. Look for the 05-06 facelifted versions with the K20Z1, slight power bump from the K20A2 in the 02-04 and IMO better looking. I've had mine for about 6 months with no issues and purchased with 108xxx. A pic of my jade green 2005.

      I average 24-26 mpg driving 50/50 city/hwy. It really does lack torque down low though, but the sound at 6K makes up for that
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