Putting Avus wheels on a different car - They fit but I have some questions regarding Lugs...

[Seven1.8T]

So I bought a '13 Scion FR-S. I need winter wheels.
A forum member over on FT-86 club did a test fit and they work fine as far as clearing the brakes and not rubbing... link below
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19403

So I have a set of these that I can use for free, so I figured since 15in tires are cheaper than 16s and I already have the wheels... Why not use them
However the thing everyone is not sure of is the lugs...

We know that we should be using ball-seat 12x1.25 lugs... but not sure if R12 or R13?
Can you guys help out and old vortexer with this?

Thanks in advance

[JettaGT8V80]

well for one thing the holes on the vw wheels are for 14mm studs while your car uses 12mm studs

it COULD be an issue with them moving around if not properly torqued down

you need to see how long your stock lugs are and compare it to the 27mm that is standard vw to see much the bolts will go in you need 7 full turns into the hub for proper holding of the wheel

[Seven1.8T]

well for one thing the holes on the vw wheels are for 14mm studs while your car uses 12mm studs

it COULD be an issue with them moving around if not properly torqued down

you need to see how long your stock lugs are and compare it to the 27mm that is standard vw to see much the bolts will go in you need 7 full turns into the hub for proper holding of the wheel

Got ya... the length is something we can find alternatives for, however the R12 vs R13 is what we aren't sure on and might have no alternatives on.... So I really need an answer for that question first... Any insight on it?

[Flat Black VW]

Just chiming in, im the OP from FT86Club who test fitted the wheels. Hoping someone here has an answer!

[JettaGT8V80]

i dont know what r12 or r13 means can you explain that (sorry i have never heard of that term)

looks like it refers to the radius i honestly never knew there was a difference vw seems to use r13

i dotn think it would be that big of an issue honestly as long as they are properly torqued down and you check them to make sure every week or so

[dennisgli]

i dotn think it would be that big of an issue honestly as long as they are properly torqued down and you check them to make sure every week or so

Sorry but I don't think it is safe to use smaller diameter bolts in a wheel with larger diameter holes. And even more dangerous if the wheels aren't hub-centric on the car.

[Seven1.8T]

So I went ahead and did this anyway.
Happy to report it works fine, completely without issues.

Thanks for trying to provide help

[Flat Black VW]

ive gone mine on now also, lug adapters work great however one of my wheels appears to be extremely slightly bent, and wont clear the brakes front or rear, so im running winter wheels in the rear, factory up front...