The 'I lost the argument to the wife and I need an SUV' game!

[Cousin Eddie]

I'll throw in my hat for the Nissan Armada.

How about "No!". Based on the same platform as the Frontier.

[Numbersix]

MDX, Enclave, XC90 would be my choices.

Ensure whatever you purchase that it fits at least one large sheep in the cargo area, though.

[Inspector Detector]

You said "wtf is wrong with women." Nothing is wrong with a woman who wants a Terrain as opposed to an Outback. It's the same basic thing but with a taller driving position. What makes an Outback so great but a Dodge Caravan so terrible?

And I'll gladly say it again for making less efficient SUV's their new makeshift station wagons, all because they generally believe they're safer in poorer handling vehicles that are more likely to rollover and stop at longer distances too, in most cases. Is that really safe?

In fact I have another sister in law who learned the hard way how a QX4 was a waste of metal, not to mention $$$$$ too, to haul her kids around in, and reverted back to a minivan Go figure.

[G0to60]

How about "No!". Based on the same platform as the Frontier.

That's your argument? That could be any vehicle with a driver that can't handle the conditions. It's based on the Titan truck but even if it was based on the Frontier so what?

[V70RinGR]

1 year ago, we bought a 2008 MB GL320 CDI. I picked it out for her because:

1. Tow Capacity/Mileage - It is able to haul her horse trailer ~5000lbs loaded. Gets reasonable mileage like 28 mpg @ 60mph no trialer and mid - upper teens with trailer. She has hauled at least a dozen times long distances and loves how it performs.

2. AWD for winter driving since we get a good amount of snow.

3. Comfort/Performance (Suitable for me to drive too) - I hated to drive her old minivan. We use this vehicle for vacation road trips because of comfort and utility. I put it on par with my Volvo V70R for comfort.

4. Quality/Reliability - Not a single issue to date

She has already told me that when it is time to replace this, she will want the newer model.
I don't think you can get into a GL CDI for under 30K but maybe a ML or a GL450 (gas version).

[Cousin Eddie]

That's your argument? That could be any vehicle with a driver that can't handle the conditions. It's based on the Titan truck but even if it was based on the Frontier so what?

Super serious stuff.

Not an argument. But it's actually based on the F-Alpha platform. I stand by the Frontier statement.

The F-Alpha is an automobile platform from Nissan Motor Company which is used in their trucks and SUV's. The latest version of the platform is the basis for the Nissan Frontier and Titan pickup trucks as well as the Nissan Xterra, Pathfinder, Armada and Infiniti QX56 SUVs. A modified version of this platform is also used for the Suzuki Equator. This platform can be configured with an independent suspension or solid axle suspension arrangement as well as larger engines, some with variable valve timing.

[G0to60]

It's not quite a SUV, but I will add an Allroad to the list of cars you might want to consider. Could strike a happy medium.

HAHA HAHA HA!! Not quite. The soft touch wears awfully, it's not reliable, the newest ones are seven years old, very complicated air suspension, etc, etc. I could go on but this is not the vehicle for his wife.

I love mine but I'm crazy like that.

[G0to60]

Super serious stuff.

Not an argument. But it's actually based on the F-Alpha platform. I stand by the Frontier statement.

So by that you could say the Frontier is based on the Titan/Armada.

[koko12]

How about "No!". Based on the same platform as the Frontier.

No other SUV in the world would have had a different outcome when impacted by at semi at those speeds. I think you were just looking for an excuse to post that very morbid video.


On any case, it sounds to me like the OP enjoy the Land Rover minus the reliability issues. If that's the case a GX470 might suit him well and might make the lady very happy.

[Cousin Eddie]

No other SUV in the world would have had a different outcome when impacted by at semi at those speeds. I think you were just looking for an excuse to post that very morbid video.

More along the lines of "don't v-tech or you could dead".

That video made a lot of people think the Navara was unsafe. And wrongfully so.

[Mike!]

More along the lines of "don't v-tech or you could dead".

That video made a lot of people think the Navara was unsafe. And wrongfully so.

Yep. The reason multilane highways like that are divided (or better divided) here is due to the inherent danger when **** happens and you end up being hit by 30 tonnes traveling at 100km/h in the opposite direction.

[Silly_me]

1 year ago, we bought a 2008 MB GL320 CDI.

I looked at these (and the V8) but I have heard stories about their reliability (which confuses me because the bits and pieces are tried and true)

[r_fostoria]

And I'll gladly say it again for making less efficient SUV's their new makeshift station wagons,

Again with the makeshift station wagons. What does that mean?

all because they generally believe they're safer in poorer handling vehicles that are more likely to rollover and stop at longer distances too, in most cases. Is that really safe?

You have no evidence to back up this claim. You're just making things up.

In fact I have another sister in law who learned the hard way how a QX4 was a waste of metal, not to mention $$$$$ too, to haul her kids around in, and reverted back to a minivan Go figure.

A Dodge Caravan was unacceptable in your first post, but now minivans are ok?

[Phil Pugliese]

The wife is picking out the cars? Turn in your man card.

[Air-over-water]

The wife is picking out the cars? Turn in your man card.

I let my wife pick out one of the 3 cars we currently have.

[audiphile]

On any case, it sounds to me like the OP enjoy the Land Rover minus the reliability issues. If that's the case a GX470 might suit him well and might make the lady very happy.

After reading the list of wants/needs that's what sprung to mind as well

[NoXenons]

They can do the conversion on '11-'13 trucks as well.
You provide the f-250 they do the rest.
From something like this

to something like this(4 or 6 door)

Just what the world needs

[Air-over-water]

Just what the world needs

More unibody pickups?

[curvedinfinity]

Just what the world needs

Please

[personman]

More unibody pickups?

I get it!

[NoXenons]

No other SUV in the world would have had a different outcome when impacted by at semi at those speeds. I think you were just looking for an excuse to post that very morbid video.


On any case, it sounds to me like the OP enjoy the Land Rover minus the reliability issues. If that's the case a GX470 might suit him well and might make the lady very happy.

Every time I see one of these there is woman behind the wheel. In fact, more often than not I spot women in the drivers seats of Land Rovers.

Automakers have nailed the demographic for trophy wives- luxury 4x4s.

[MrRoboto]

I always pictured silly in a Land Cruiser, pining for the fjords...

[Mike!]

I get it!

That was a good one.

[Silly_me]

Every time I see one of these there is woman behind the wheel. In fact, more often than not I spot women in the drivers seats of Land Rovers.

Automakers have nailed the demographic for trophy wives- luxury 4x4s.

Here's how it works for us. I have always had either a sports car a sporty car or an old man's car (in that order ) while wifey always had the more practical grocery getter/road trip car. Something with a swing style back be it an SUV or hatchback. Since I didn't particularly care to drive them and she didn't care what she drove it works great. She gets the boring comfy ride while I only need to mess with it doing 'manly chores' of hauling crap, light offroad, etc. It really is helpful having something around that can tow a trailer, carry a dishwasher, and have awd/4x4, it just isn't realy fun to drive everyday. So for me, it's a was win win, I had an SUV without having to drive the SUV!

I always pictured silly in a Land Cruiser, pining for the fjords...

That or a Defender.... you know it brother!

[deucestudios]

I always pictured silly in a Land Cruiser, pining for the fjords...

I just don't thing the Ejxcursion is a good buy.

[caj1]

Yet another castrated male. Tell her to take her hard earned money can get whatever she wants.

[baller9409]

This one is a little on the small side for where I live, but it would be a good start.

theres no chance in hell thats under 30k, or id be calling to make a down payment

[baller9409]

I just don't thing the Ejxcursion is a good buy.

why not? it can fit almost anything in it, the diesel engines arent horrible on fuel considering the size, and they are tanks.

[SuperGroove]

No other SUV in the world would have had a different outcome when impacted by at semi at those speeds. I think you were just looking for an excuse to post that very morbid video.


On any case, it sounds to me like the OP enjoy the Land Rover minus the reliability issues. If that's the case a GX470 might suit him well and might make the lady very happy.

Land Rover owners who defect to Land Cruiser ownership are W.I.M.Ps (Wisdom...inspired...motor people?)

We all look at Land Cruiser owners in disgust, but secretly we want to be driving alongside them, rather than looking at our christmas tree of an instrument panel, while being hoisted on to a flat bed tow truck.

[mutcth]

Silly, get a last-generation 4Runner (nicer than the current cost-cut generation) or a LC/GX with a few more years on it. That said, I LOVE our 2011 Durango V8...

Tom

[Inspector Detector]

You have no evidence to back up this claim. You're just making things up.

You mean to tell me that for the most part cars don't handle and brake better than SUV's? I know there's SUV's and cars that break those rules but for the most part better handling and braking is achieved in lower center of gravity, light weight machines. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

[r_fostoria]

You mean to tell me that for the most part cars don't handle and brake better than SUV's? I know there's SUV's and cars that break those rules but for the most part better handling and braking is achieved in lower center of gravity, light weight machines. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

What? No. I was referring to your idea that all women buy SUVs to feel safer.

[worth_fixing]

Edit: I said Touareg TDI, but re-read and saw the $30,000 limit.

[Inspector Detector]

What? No. I was referring to your idea that all women buy SUVs to feel safer.

Dodge reports that women purchase nearly half of the 120,000 Dodge Durango SUVs it sells each year. They are buyers such as Nancy Freed of San Diego, who traded in her minivan for a Durango.

“ I needed something larger for the kids and all the sports equipment and friends they want me to haul around,” Freed said. “It also feels safer to be in a bigger car. ”

Surveys and studies reveal that women purchase SUVs because they consider them fun and safe to drive.

http://www.latimes.com/extras/trucks-suvs/story02.html

[Silly_me]

Yet another castrated male. Tell her to take her hard earned money can get whatever she wants.

your balls, and sex life, are much more impressive than mine I'm sure I sir, salute you.

Silly, get a last-generation 4Runner (nicer than the current cost-cut generation) or a LC/GX with a few more years on it. That said, I LOVE our 2011 Durango V8...

Tom

There is probably a winner in here.

http://www.latimes.com/extras/trucks-suvs/story02.html

What really is your point? That the secret is that us castrated males bend to the wimmens to make the decision on what vehicles to buy? I've got a prize over here somewhere for your discovery... just under this pile of my honey-do list.....

I honestly want to know how many married men make all the decisions on what to buy and when to buy? The last honest-to-god Archie Bunker I ever knew was my Grandfather who was a career military man serving actively in WWII and Korea and then being a recruiter for Vietnam. Pretty sure none of you are as badass as him

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