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    10-11-2012 07:16 PM #1
    I am thoroughly impressed with this car. This may very well be the car to lure me away from the Germans. It was a short drive and a mix of city and highway, so here's my impressions:

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    - Very nice power. There's not as much torque as the chipped 2.0T in my MKV GLI, but the power is still enjoyable
    - Handling was EXCELLENT. I fully admit I was expecting something close to what I'm driving now, and it easily surpasses it. Steering was direct, very quick ratio and laser accurate. The car hugged the road on a tight on ramp. This car was truly fun to drive. It was a completely engaging drive.
    - Interior materials were quite nice. Buttons and stalks clicked and snicked as well as the Germans. Dash design was nice, but the screen for the radio was on the small side (but is not a touchscreen). I especially liked the cloth used for seats as it wasn't mouse-fur velour or some weird textured stuff. Just clean black cloth with a slight shine and nice red stitching. The silver plastic trim is on the cheap side as are the lower door panels. Graphics in the screen between the gauges are really slick.
    - Transmission shifted nicely and struck a good balance between shifting for economy and performance. I'm VERY intrigued to find out how the manual will drive (more on that in a minute)
    - Engine noise, while not melodic, was well muted. With just enough noise to let you know what was going on, but it wasn't silent.
    - Road noise was virtually nonexistent.
    - The suspension is nicely firm yet not at all harsh.
    - Seats were very comfortable, rear seat room was adequate.

    If I were to fault the car at all, I'd say that the legroom in the rear was less than I expected. Probably on par with my Jetta. It wasn't tight by any means, but for the visual size of the car I was expecting more. I also felt the trunk, while wide and deep, was somewhat shallow. As mentioned above the silver trim is on the cheap side.

    Overall, the car is a real winner.

    The dealership experience was good, but the salesman and the owner made great efforts to try and talk me into an automatic. I was clear with them that I only buy cars with a clutch, but they thought I was crazy. I'm sure they wanted to get me to buy the car on the lot, rather than ordering/waiting on a manual model. If dealers really want to woo people away from the Germans, they need to be more receptive to those of us that want a third pedal.

    Also, they stated that manual transmission models were special order only. I told them it wouldn't be a problem since I owned my car and it was paid for. I'm not sure if they were telling me the truth, or trying to push me into the model on the lot, or that they just don't want to order any manual cars to stock on the lot. And when I say they tried to talk me out of a manual, they REALLY TRIED. I was just about to tell them it's my money and that's what I want when the subject was changed.

    I really really really liked the car.








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    10-11-2012 07:30 PM #2
    One of the standard car magazines confirmed that the 1.6T manual was special order only. I can't remember which one.. C&D/MT/Automobile. I bet the dealer is worried that people will order, then change their minds and leave them with a virtually unsellable manual, turbocharged domestic midsize sedan.
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    10-11-2012 07:31 PM #3
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    10-11-2012 07:33 PM #4
    I need to see this car in person again, but it just looks bulky to my eyes. It may just be the proportions and the high beltline. Did it feel big on the road?

    Edit: I think it's a generally good looking car, especially the front. But something about the large rear end with the relatively small wheels just keeps throwing me.
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    10-11-2012 07:38 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by sforsancho View Post
    One of the standard car magazines confirmed that the 1.6T manual was special order only. I can't remember which one.. C&D/MT/Automobile. I bet the dealer is worried that people will order, then change their minds and leave them with a virtually unsellable manual, turbocharged domestic midsize sedan.
    ^^^This

    When I ordered my F-150 they looked at how odd of truck I was ordering when setting up the deposit. Since my truck would sell rather quickly they only asked for $500 down. The last thing the dealership wants is to be stuck with an unsellable car on the lot. The longer it sits there the more it will cost them.

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    10-11-2012 07:39 PM #6
    They're going to sell so f-ing many of these

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    10-11-2012 07:41 PM #7
    Good write-up, but I still think the car itself looks ugly.

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    10-11-2012 07:42 PM #8
    Sounds like I will have to swing by the local ford dealer on my way home from Harrisburg tomorrow night.
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    10-11-2012 07:44 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
    Good write-up, but I still think the car itself looks ugly.
    I think it's quite the looker for a new midsize sedan.

    Curious to hear about the manual.
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    10-11-2012 07:55 PM #10
    the front grille looks like an Aston Martin IMO
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    10-11-2012 09:19 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Isambard View Post
    I need to see this car in person again, but it just looks bulky to my eyes. It may just be the proportions and the high beltline. Did it feel big on the road?

    Edit: I think it's a generally good looking car, especially the front. But something about the large rear end with the relatively small wheels just keeps throwing me.
    It felt big sitting in it, but once the car started moving it felt smaller than my Jetta.

    I do agree with you on the wheels/bulk. I look at the car in person and can't believe they're 18s.

  12. 10-11-2012 09:22 PM #12
    Quote Originally Posted by sforsancho View Post
    One of the standard car magazines confirmed that the 1.6T manual was special order only. I can't remember which one.. C&D/MT/Automobile. I bet the dealer is worried that people will order, then change their minds and leave them with a virtually unsellable manual, turbocharged domestic midsize sedan.



  13. 10-11-2012 09:26 PM #13
    Nice to have competition, but I'd prefer to get the cheaper, more efficient and quicker Accord 2013 EX. I have yet to see a Fusion to beat it in a comparo.

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    10-11-2012 09:26 PM #14
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    10-11-2012 09:44 PM #15
    Is the manual a no-cost option or does it add to or subtract from the price?
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    10-11-2012 09:48 PM #16
    Weird. I like the front end in that picture. I usually hate wide mouth looking grills.
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    10-11-2012 09:53 PM #17
    I'm not a fan of the styling unless I'm viewing it dead-on. Anyways, hopefully the people who dove approve of its styling don't mind the back seat. The competition has really stepped it up in back seat room/comfort.
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    10-11-2012 09:57 PM #18
    Sounds not unlike my shock at the current Focus's genuine excellence. Amazing lack of road noise and genuine solidity with a comparative lack of the competitions' synthetic feel. There really is no reason to buy a "luxury" car if the Fusion is anything like the Focus, which it apparently is.

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    10-11-2012 10:05 PM #19
    Quote Originally Posted by HerrGolf View Post
    Sounds not unlike my shock at the current Focus's genuine excellence. Amazing lack of road noise and genuine solidity with a comparative lack of the competitions' synthetic feel. There really is no reason to buy a "luxury" car if the Fusion is anything like the Focus, which it apparently is.
    I thought it felt more expensive than the $26K price tag ($25 w stick).

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    10-11-2012 10:24 PM #20
    Haven't seen the inside of these cars yet or driven one, but it looks like it could be something like the B5 Passat in terms of perfectly balancing performance and comfort.

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    10-11-2012 10:33 PM #21
    Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
    Haven't seen the inside of these cars yet or driven one, but it looks like it could be something like the B5 Passat in terms of perfectly balancing performance and comfort.
    Hope so! If I were shopping for a near luxury sedan with a manual, this would make the short list.

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    10-11-2012 10:43 PM #22
    Quote Originally Posted by classicjetta View Post
    Haven't seen the inside of these cars yet or driven one, but it looks like it could be something like the B5 Passat in terms of perfectly balancing performance and comfort.
    If it's anything like the Focus, it's much much better. If you want to compare it to a VW, think Mk5/6 Golf, but much quieter and with less sharpness over small bumps and no annoying throttle lag.

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    10-11-2012 10:48 PM #23
    that front grille, from head on makes me think

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    10-11-2012 10:50 PM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by silverspeedbuggy View Post
    I am thoroughly impressed with this car. This may very well be the car to lure me away from the Germans.
    Not to worry. Didn't the Germans have a say in the design of the new Fusion?

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    10-11-2012 10:55 PM #25
    That's a pretty sharp looking car for sure.
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    10-11-2012 10:59 PM #26
    saw one in person the other day. damn beautiful car. nice seats; even with cloth it felt upscale. i had my kid with me or else I would have driven it and the focus ST. hopefully I'll have a chance to go back this weekend. glad to hear it drives nice. I really want to check out the manual as well, and the 2.0T.

    I have a mk5 jetta and I was really impressed by the rear seat in the fusion I think it felt bigger than the jetta and numbers confirm this:

    mk5 jetta:
    Rear head room: 37.2 in.
    Rear leg room: 35.4 in.
    Rear shoulder room: 53.1 in.

    2013 fusion:
    Rear hip Room: 54.4 in.
    Rear head room: 37.8 in.
    Rear leg room: 38.3 in.
    Rear shoulder room: 56.9 in.

    also, trunk size is exactly the same as mkv jetta: 16 cu. ft.

    OP: did you notice the numbers to unlock it that appear on the driver's door?
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    10-11-2012 11:01 PM #27
    I want to like this car too, but any shot of the car outside of dead on looks odd and overstyled. If I were shopping this segment I think I would be leaning towards the manual, four pot Accord Sport. I think I like the styling best on the Mazda 6 though.

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    10-11-2012 11:02 PM #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
    Not to worry. Didn't the Germans have a say in the design of the new Fusion?
    The platform was developed in Germany. The exterior designer is from Oklahoma and did the work on this car in Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren_s View Post
    that front grille, from head on makes me think

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    10-11-2012 11:33 PM #30
    I think the Fusion looks great
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmcm View Post
    They're going to sell so f-ing many of these
    Just what I was thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KahviVW View Post
    I think the Fusion looks great
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    Agreed---GREAT looking car!
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    10-12-2012 12:06 AM #34
    I always wish there was a little more flare to the wheel arches, but yes, a wonderful looking entry level family sedan. Compare this to 15 years ago. It's amazing how far the domestic automakers have come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren_s View Post
    The platform was developed in Germany. The exterior designer is from Oklahoma and did the work on this car in Detroit.
    Classy. Thanks for the link.

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