Wheel Fitment, Really need help

[courtneybriton]

Pretty sure everyone is tired of these threads all the time, but I don't know a whole lot about wheels.
Basically I have silverstones 4x100 14x6j et38 wheels on there right now, but I bought a set of bbs 4x100 14x6j et13 wheels for it. Needless to say, it has a whole inch difference in offset (25cm) and the bbs hit the brake caliper. Does anyone know what size spacers I would need for these to work? and how much further they will stick out? (I assume an inch due to the difference in offset, but with a spacer?) I definitely don't want tons of poke.
I've already used this site, which doesn't answer the question of what size spacers I would need.
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp

[mattchirhart]

Set her up on a jackstand, pull the wheel away from the hub til it doesn't hit the caliper and measure in millimeters.

[s2kvondeutschland]

No spacer is needed. A spacer will make you rub the fender hard.

Take a grinder to the caliper bracket until you have enough room. You only need to take 1/8 to 1/4 inch of the corners.

Mine have been that way for thousands and thousands of miles with no issues, and I ground mine down to almost nothing.

[mileycyrus]

if you mean the front outer guard, i just cut mine off to get my DRs to fit....no issues here!!

[s2kvondeutschland]

if you mean the front outer guard, i just cut mine off to get my DRs to fit....no issues here!!

Yeah, you can just cut them off too.

[courtneybriton]

k, well I did some math, and HARD research, I decided with spacers. i don't want to do damage to the caliper, something just makes me feel unsafe about stomping on a brake to stop in an emergency, and having my caliper snap under the pressure because it is too thin. And as far as the caliper goes, I would have to shave off an entire INCH just to give it space enough to move. (you should have a 1/2 inch between the caliper and wheel at all times, and the 25mm difference in the ofsset takes away another 1/2 inch) don't know if that makes sense to you, but i wrote it all out.

Essentially, I have 2 inches (50mm) of space to extend the wheel. when I add the offset of 13 (38MM is the stock offset i have now, 13 is what is going to go on, so 38-13=25), that alone takes up 1/2 of the space. with a spacer, i can use up that other 25mm of space. It will actually be exactly aligned. the car isn't lowered, so it's not going to hit the flare, and it's definitely not going to poke. In some instances I have figured that I will still have 13mm of space left, but IDK how i got to that,

The easiest way to phrase it, is imaging that the 25mm spacer decreases the offset. 13-25=-12. so it is like i have an offset of -12 with the spacer, and that will give it a poke of 68mm instead of 38mm with the stock. This just ENSURES that there is the same stock amount of space between the wheel and the caliper as there was with the stockers on.
Feel free to correct me on my math, if this sounds incorrect. i don't want to screw it up, but I am pretty certain it's not gonna rub.

[courtneybriton]

also, I am very very against cutting my car up. It is a near-stock beauty, with gorgeous paint and excellent body. While I'm fine with different wheels, i don't want to do anything to hurt or jeopardize that sexy body. Also! I will be getting coilovers in about 6 months, when it is not blustery winter here, and i will be getting new tires as well. Considering just getting a lower profile tire to prevent rubbing as well.

[s2kvondeutschland]

I can assure you, as a 100% fact, that a 13x6 et13 will RAPE your tires, especially if you are lowered. They will cut and rub and you will hate it.

You will never know your caliper hangers are cut or MILDLY GROUND, and if cutting is really a big deal to you, use Mk2 caliper hangers that don't have the front guard.

155/50r13 rubbed like a bitch on my cabby. Good luck. The solution is simple, and right in front of you. If you're against mild grinding or cutting of something that isn't even needed, then get the proper wheels for your car, in the proper size.

[courtneybriton]

I can assure you, as a 100% fact, that a 13x6 et13 will RAPE your tires, especially if you are lowered. They will cut and rub and you will hate it.

You will never know your caliper hangers are cut or MILDLY GROUND, and if cutting is really a big deal to you, use Mk2 caliper hangers that don't have the front guard.

155/50r13 rubbed like a bitch on my cabby. Good luck. The solution is simple, and right in front of you. If you're against mild grinding or cutting of something that isn't even needed, then get the proper wheels for your car, in the proper size.

i will for sure check that out. the PO of these wheels have them mounted on his mk1 rabbit without any issue, but IDK how. Still have a while to go I guess. As for the proper wheels, I don't think anyone does that. Did you do that? I didn't think so. I would consider replacing the caliper with something else smaller, but I don't want to shave them, or cut the wheel well. I also bought snowflakes IF in the dire situation these don't work out, then I can mount those too without problem. I just don't feel like hacking a nice car up, and I have never seen these wheels on another cab anyways.

[courtneybriton]

thanks for the mk2 suggestion though, I am def. going to check that out.

[csrgti]

i will for sure check that out. the PO of these wheels have them mounted on his mk1 rabbit without any issue, but IDK how. Still have a while to go I guess. As for the proper wheels, I don't think anyone does that. Did you do that? I didn't think so. I would consider replacing the caliper with something else smaller, but I don't want to shave them, or cut the wheel well. I also bought snowflakes IF in the dire situation these don't work out, then I can mount those too without problem. I just don't feel like hacking a nice car up, and I have never seen these wheels on another cab anyways.

Mk1 rabbits have smaller brakes unless it was a GTI. You're right a lot of people run wheels that may not fit right but they modify parts of the car to make them fit. If you're not willing to modify your brakes you'll have to run spacers if you run spacers your wheels will poke even more and you'll have to roll your fenders and cut the fender flares down inside the fender, then modify their mounting system. Even if you're running snowflakes on a lowered car there's a good chance they'll rub on the inside of the fender flares.

PS you're calculating your offset wrong. Your et 13 is actually a -13mm or they already have some serious poke,
If you add a 25mm spacer it will put you at +12mm that's a lot of poke. I'm sure you can find pictures of 0 offset wheels on a mk1, you'll have 12mm more poking out than a 0 offset wheel.