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    1. Member Farnsworth's Avatar
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      10-13-2012 02:58 PM #1
      First-gen Mazda(Speed)3.

      Toyota Camry's (especially where engine oil is concerned).

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      http://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/...sumption.shtml (this one's legit, it's happening to my Father-In-Law and almost all of his prev.-gen-Camry-driving coworkers)

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      10-13-2012 03:13 PM #2
      Honda automatics when paired with V6s*... That's all that comes to mind right now.

      *This may well be fixed in current Hondas. In the 90s and early 00s that wasn't the case.
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      10-13-2012 03:16 PM #3
      Some people will tell you Volkswagens are reliable... They definitely aren't for the most part. Ask me how I know.

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      10-13-2012 03:25 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by slippinclutch View Post
      Some people will tell you Volkswagens are reliable... They definitely aren't for the most part. Ask me how I know.
      My Mk.III ABA is less reliable than my Saab. Guess which has the better reputation for being reliable
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      10-13-2012 03:29 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Honda automatics when paired with V6s*... That's all that comes to mind right now.

      *This may well be fixed in current Hondas. In the 90s and early 00s that wasn't the case.
      This was the first thing that came to my mind as-well. My mother's '00 Odyssey is getting ready for its 3rd transmission.

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      10-13-2012 03:31 PM #6
      No one really claims these are reliable, but the 3VZE is one of the worst engines Toyota made.

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      10-13-2012 03:42 PM #7
      Many Subaru models IMO.

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      10-13-2012 03:43 PM #9
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    10. 10-13-2012 03:50 PM #10
      German cars pick one.
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      10-13-2012 03:51 PM #11
      Old Saabs, Volvos, and BMWs. Everytime I see them glowingly endorsed on here, I always flinch a little. I've owned numerous cars from these makes, and yes, some parts are cheap. Some things are easy to fix...but by and large things go wrong in old 240s, 900s, and E30s that not only are problems specific to them, but also very expensive. Are they strong, well built, and solid? Sure. But they are temperamental machines built for a different time and set of expectations. I never discourage anyone from buying any of these cars because I like them all very, very much, but I feel as a responsible former owner to offer fair warning that they are not reliable in the modern sense. Caveat emptor.
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      10-13-2012 03:54 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Many Subaru models IMO.
      This. I've spent more $$ on a Subaru 2.5, than on anything that i've ever owned

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      10-13-2012 03:55 PM #13
      I, too, agree with the Subaru sentiment. Also lump in there Mitsubishi. "But isn't it Japanese? Aren't they all reliable?"
      The Mitsubishi Mirage is a piece of ****.

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      10-13-2012 04:03 PM #14
      I'll take a '90-93 camry across country coast to coast, regardless of engine, regardless of miles on it.

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      10-13-2012 04:25 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      Honda automatics when paired with V6s*... That's all that comes to mind right now.

      *This may well be fixed in current Hondas. In the 90s and early 00s that wasn't the case.
      '98 through '02 V-6 4-speed automatics only. It affected Accords, the Acura TL, and the Honda Odyssey.

      EDIT for accuracy: Early 5AT boxes had troubles too, '03 and '04.
      Last edited by DerSpiegel; 10-13-2012 at 10:37 PM.

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      10-13-2012 04:25 PM #17
      Mileage may vary.

      With vehicle reliability- it is a game of numbers.
      Some vehicles - on average- have less issues than others.
      But that doesn't mean a vehicle with a general reliable history won't have unreliable examples, just like a vehicle with a poor reliability history won't have some very reliable examples.
      But in general- the data doesn't lie.
      The only real mistake is taking the experience of one or two examples over all the available data.
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    18. 10-13-2012 04:28 PM #18
      MKIV with auto trans... Been there... The car was a ticking timebomb.

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      10-13-2012 04:30 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by mx07gt View Post
      MKIV with auto trans... Been there... The car was a ticking timebomb.
      VW really should have its own entire sub-thread for this thread
      I now have an InstaGram: emmettlodge

    20. 10-13-2012 04:31 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by manol2 View Post
      This. I've spent more $$ on a Subaru 2.5, than on anything that i've ever owned
      Put over 210k miles on my 2000 2.5RS with only oil changes, plugs and wires, and a clutch. What a POS that car was

      Would probably still be driving it if somebody that was too old to drive had not ran into me and killed it.

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      10-13-2012 04:31 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by slippinclutch View Post
      Some people will tell you Volkswagens are reliable... They definitely aren't for the most part. Ask me how I know.

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      10-13-2012 04:37 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by emmettlodge View Post

      I don't think I've ever heard anyone say any generation Jetta was reliable..

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      10-13-2012 04:37 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by BattleRabbit View Post
      My Mk.III ABA is less reliable than my Saab. Guess which has the better reputation for being reliable
      I've had a mkiii and a mkii; my mgb has been far more reliable than either.
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    24. 10-13-2012 05:27 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by 2Cor View Post
      I've had a mkiii and a mkii; my mgb has been far more reliable than either.
      My mk3 was my most reliable car. My basis for comparison, however, is an e39 540, b4 a4 1.8t and 02 wrx (all were salvaged).

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