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    Thread: BMW to offer six new diesel models in NA in next two years

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      11-05-2012 08:10 AM #1
      Apologies if this is a repost but I hadn't seen a thread about it. From a BMW NA meeting recently:



      I'm guessing four cylinder in the 3-series and X3, six cylinder the in X5, 5-series, and 7-series.

      The news of a diesel wagon is especially interesting and should get some TCLers pretty excited.
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      11-05-2012 08:15 AM #2
      The diesel wagon indeed has me excited
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      11-05-2012 08:45 AM #3
      2.0 or 3.0 in the 3 series? I'm betting 2.0.

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      11-05-2012 08:47 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      2.0 or 3.0 in the 3 series? I'm betting 2.0.
      Good, the 2.0 is the right choice. The 328i already gets 34MPG highway, a 3.0D wouldn't do that much better.
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      11-05-2012 08:55 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      2.0 or 3.0 in the 3 series? I'm betting 2.0.
      I hope it's the 2.0. The performance diesel thing didn't translate into a runaway sales success in E90 form...would be nice if the diesel was focused on being the fuel economy leader.
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      11-05-2012 09:01 AM #6
      Diesel 3-series wagon. TCL just had a collective 'gasm.

      Until it's auto or AWD only, and then they won't buy it.

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      11-05-2012 09:03 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      Diesel 3-series wagon. TCL just had a collective 'gasm.

      Until it's auto or AWD only, and then they won't buy it.
      Pretty much this!
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      11-05-2012 09:44 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      Until it's auto or AWD only, and then they won't buy it.
      I think auto-only is a given.

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      11-05-2012 09:48 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      Diesel 3-series wagon. TCL just had a collective 'gasm.

      Until it's auto or AWD only, and then they won't buy it.
      RWD and auto only. Except for Canada where it will offer AWD and a stick.

    10. 11-05-2012 10:20 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by cryption View Post
      The diesel wagon indeed has me excited
      That seems like a good idea for BMW to offer. Its only competition is the cheaper non luxury Jetta Sportswagon TDI. Even though wagons are niche in the US there is still a market for luxury wagons. I saw alot of Mercedes wagons when I was up in Connecticut.

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      11-05-2012 10:26 AM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      RWD and auto only. Except for Canada where it will offer AWD and a stick.
      If that's true I'd consider buying one just to torment the rest of TCL.

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      11-05-2012 10:27 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by 50fridge View Post
      That seems like a good idea for BMW to offer. Its only competition is the cheaper non luxury Jetta Sportswagon TDI. Even though wagons are niche in the US there is still a market for luxury wagons. I saw alot of Mercedes wagons when I was up in Connecticut.
      Luxury wagons still have a place, especially in New England. I'd be on board to look into a diesel wagon in a few years. A wagon is definitely in the plans, it's just a matter of them being available or even sold in Merica.





      I'd throw them all out the door for the opportunity to lease this. Wouldn't care if it was auto only either, I love the new 5 series.


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      11-05-2012 11:11 AM #13
      And I'm gonna watch all you bitches not buy one, after volubly pining for diesel sport wagons for years.
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      11-05-2012 11:39 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      And I'm gonna watch all you bitches not buy one, after volubly pining for diesel sport wagons for years.
      I WILL get a new 3'er diesel wagon when it's released...

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      11-05-2012 12:38 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      And I'm gonna watch all you bitches not buy one, after volubly pining for diesel sport wagons for years.
      I'd buy if my salary doubled.

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      11-05-2012 12:46 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
      I'd throw them all out the door for the opportunity to lease this. Wouldn't care if it was auto only either, I love the new 5 series.

      i'd rock that in a heartbeat (especially if dirty fuel was in the mix)
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      11-05-2012 12:52 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by rich! View Post
      i'd rock that in a heartbeat (especially if dirty fuel was in the mix)
      Dunno. The new 5-series is pretty Lexus-y, and it feels very much like the SWB 7-series that it is. Which is fine, but disappointing given that the 5-series has historically not been a numb, cushy cruiser.
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      11-05-2012 12:55 PM #18
      Glad BMW is listening to the needs of TCL.
      i'd buy one if i didn't spend my money on food last week.

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      11-05-2012 01:12 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      Dunno. The new 5-series is pretty Lexus-y, and it feels very much like the SWB 7-series that it is. Which is fine, but disappointing given that the 5-series has historically not been a numb, cushy cruiser.
      heh, i was just talking about that with my folks (and how they miss their old E39 540i) but i have grey hair now and 2 kids so cushy is fine
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      11-05-2012 01:19 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by slide13 View Post
      Glad BMW is listening to the needs of TCL.
      i'd buy one if i didn't spend my money on food last week.
      You know how much money you'd save if you just stopped eating?

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      Quote Originally Posted by BeBop! View Post
      You know how much money you'd save if you just stopped eating?
      $10.25, 7 junior chicken and 1 fries.
      but they would have my business if they offered that car with a 6speed manual.
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    22. 11-06-2012 11:24 AM #22
      No X1 diesel?!? I'm disappointed!!!

      But if there's a diesel 3 wagon with manual I'll get one.

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      cool and all but I doubt a 6 speed will be put in any of them, so no care
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    25. 11-06-2012 12:02 PM #25
      used to care about 6-speed, but will take the 8-speed-auto.

      doesn't matter if it comes in the 320d or 328d/335d for me!

      Make sure its m-sport,

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      11-06-2012 12:46 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      Dunno. The new 5-series is pretty Lexus-y, and it feels very much like the SWB 7-series that it is. Which is fine, but disappointing given that the 5-series has historically not been a numb, cushy cruiser.
      Don't get hung up on the number "5" -- it used to mean "the middle one" but that's not really been true since the 1 series came out almost 10 years ago. BMW is really filling out the range of cars below the 5 series so the 5 going in the luxury direction instead of the sport direction actually makes sense.

      What I'd really like to see from them, though, is a 3 series-sized car with 5 series amenities.

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      11-06-2012 12:52 PM #27
      The 3 series diesel wagon has gotta be an elaborate April Fools joke for next year.

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      11-06-2012 01:06 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      RWD and auto only. Except for Canada where it will offer AWD and a stick.
      is this official from somewhere or are you guessing?! could have some serious implications for me if true....

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      11-06-2012 01:08 PM #29
      Came for misguided Saintor rant, will check back later.

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      Sign me up for an X3d. I'd be satisfied with a Tiguan TDI too, I'm not that picky.

      Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
      Luxury wagons still have a place, especially in New England. I'd be on board to look into a diesel wagon in a few years. A wagon is definitely in the plans, it's just a matter of them being available or even sold in Merica.
      There is still a place for them in the NW too. My last car was a wagon and my current car would have been if VW had offered the same seats and the HID headlights in a JSW. That's really what got me into a Golf instead.

      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      And I'm gonna watch all you bitches not buy one, after volubly pining for diesel sport wagons for years.
      Careful, sometimes people actually buy the car that they say they want. See above for why it isn't a wagon.

      Quote Originally Posted by Shomegrown View Post
      Came for misguided Saintor rant, will check back later.
      I'm sure it will be good, I'll be back for it too.
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      11-06-2012 01:19 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by warren_s View Post
      Don't get hung up on the number "5" -- it used to mean "the middle one" but that's not really been true since the 1 series came out almost 10 years ago. BMW is really filling out the range of cars below the 5 series so the 5 going in the luxury direction instead of the sport direction actually makes sense.

      What I'd really like to see from them, though, is a 3 series-sized car with 5 series amenities.
      Isnt a 50k 3 Series enough? Giving it 5 series amenities would be overkill.

    32. 11-06-2012 02:16 PM #32
      That's nice for BMW to do this. Hopefully 6MT is available in the 3.

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      11-06-2012 02:20 PM #33
      Any SWAGs (Scientific Wild-A** Guesses) on how much a diesel 3-series wagon might cost?

    34. 11-06-2012 02:38 PM #34
      guessing 50k!

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      11-06-2012 02:43 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by boner View Post
      is this official from somewhere or are you guessing?! could have some serious implications for me if true....
      Just poking fun at US diesel buyers

      On a serious note I could see Canada taking diesel options the US doesn't get. Some lower volume products like hatchbacks and wagons might just plain sell better in Canada than the US.

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