Well I have always been very pissed off the VWOA did not give us the programing that the Canadian cars got with the two stage ESP button. I have had my car since 3/29/12 and today was the 1st time my car has ever seen snow. I put my snow tire on then went out for a drive around the neighborhood. The car will not kick out, car will not slide when you pull the e-brake even with the ASR button off. This just confirms the Golf R was the wrong purchase for me with the current ESP programming in the USA. If I had it to do over again I would not have purchased this car. End of rant, thank you for reading this post. If you are looking at buying a Golf R and would like to have fun in the snow. DO NOT BUY THIS CAR!!!!