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    Thread: Calling all TCLers: Review your own car!

    1. Member 1985Jetta's Avatar
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      12-16-2012 10:26 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      If you went with the ones that actually drove, that wouldn't be too hard.

      We have at least 8 that are driveable
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      12-16-2012 10:31 PM #27
      Do I review my car as it was when it came from the factory, or do I factor in the 19 years of wear and tear because those will be two very different scores.

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      12-16-2012 10:45 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      We have at least 8 that are driveable
      You and your wife? Life partner?

      Because if its parents, it doesn't count.

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      12-16-2012 10:57 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by warren_s View Post
      1.


      2010 Audi A3 2.0T Quattro S-Line. 112,000km after 3 years.

      2. Exterior 9/10 -- this car gets lots of attention and positive compliments from people. IMO still the best-looking hatchback you can buy (though I guess not for much longer with the A3 out of production now).
      3. Interior 8/10 -- very nice place to be, dash-strokers are well at home here, but it's let down a bit by creaks from the center console and the rear seats don't fold flat unless the bench is taken out.
      4. Acceleration 7/10 -- I've timed a 0-100km/h in 6.5 seconds. Pretty good. Turbo lag and DSG means a different driving style is needed and it's easy to get caught in the wrong gear when it's time to beat a dickbag cabbie off the line. I've long since learned how to work with this but it can feel underpowered to someone new to the car.
      5. Braking 10/10 -- One of my favourite parts of the car. Solid, linear, great pedal feel.
      6. Ride 6/10 -- A3 with the S-Line package is not known for its smooth ride quality. On the plus side it's very communicative.
      7. Handling 8/10 -- once you get used to The Audi Way of steering, it's a total hoot. Strikes a really good balance between a nice loose feel at very low speeds, and tight at high speeds.
      8. Gearbox 9/10 -- DSG is epic. Gear shifts are fast and smooth, manual downshifting for engine braking "feels right" and rev-matches like a boss so it sounds good too. I'd give it 10/10 but DSG boxes are a jerky off the line.
      9. Audio 8/10 -- stereo is Bose, 10 speakers with active noise cancellation, very very good system. Engine note is decent, sounds good at high revs, but really nothing too spectacular.
      10. Toys 8/10 -- for 2013 it's a bit behind, but I've got the full nav system with a lot of clever capabilities, iPod integration (charger + plays music), Bluetooth (which works nicely with my new Windows Phone.... it'll read text messages to me and I can speak text messages in return), Sirius satellite radio, 2 SD card slots for 64 gigs of additional music, dual climate control, two sunroofs, two trip computers. It's missing some useful things like a USB plug and audio in jack.
      11. Value 5/10 -- it's a lot of money for what you get. Intangibles like style, design, and the subtle communication that you're doing well are hard to put a price tag on. On the plus side, it's super easy to beat EPA fuel economy estimates, even with relatively spirited driving.
      12. Total 78/100
      I feel,about the same with my A3- the only difference being that mine is an 06 and has zero nav and no way to run an iPod input without taking the stock system apart. I like it, but miss my TT Quattro 6MT
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      12-16-2012 11:02 PM #30
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      You and your wife? Life partner?

      Because if its parents, it doesn't count.

      Chris
      Nope.

      1980 Chevy Cube Van 350 automatic


      Exterior 7/10 - dents, roof mounted "chevrolet" decal is torn, white paint spots

      Interior 7/10 - seats have tape, no headliner, footwells are small

      Acceleration 7/10 - slow but decent for a cube van

      Braking 8/10 - good brakes

      Ride 8/10 - smooth

      Handling 8/10 - steers well, but it definitely is boat like

      Gearbox 10/10 - serves its purpose well

      Audio 0/10 - no radio

      Toys 0/10 - its old

      Value 4/10 - could sell well but most people would opt for a newer cube van

      Total score - 59/100
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      12-16-2012 11:11 PM #31
      1994 Lincoln Mark VIII 4.6 auto, 143,000 miles


      Exterior - 7/10 - very round exterior. Looks slightly worse than the T-bird but better than the Cougar

      Interior 8/10 - comfy, seats are torn though

      Acceleration - 3/10 - top speed is about 35 mph due to a transmission problem

      Braking 8/10 - good stopping power

      Ride 9/10 - it's a lincoln

      Handling 9/10 - it's a lincoln

      Gearbox 1/10 - does not shift right/slips

      Audio 8/10 - serves its purpose

      Toys 3/10 - its old, but a lincoln - still feel luxurious

      Value 5/10 - some people find this car ugly so some might not want one

      Total 58/100
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      12-16-2012 11:18 PM #32
      1.2012 Legacy GT


      2. Exterior: 7/10 - The BM9 bodystyle doesn't have a lot fans. I think the previous gen looked better, but the current gen isn't horrible imo just a little awkward especially the overall height.

      3. Interior: 8/10 - Well it isn't my MKIV GLI, but it isn't a horrible space to spend time. The leather is quality is alright though the plastics could be nicer. I don't think the previous gen was appreciably better and interior imo is the best of Subaru's current line up. The extra interior room is much appreciated as well since this is my family hauler.

      4. Acceleration: 8/10 - Acceleration is what you would expect from a turbocharged Subie, it certainly puts a smile on my face the days that I drive it. The best part though is the potential, there is certainly more "go" available w/a pro-tune and turboback.

      5. Braking: 7/10 - The braking is solid, I'm sure improvements could be seen w/some small upgrades but overall the factory hardware gets it done.

      6. Ride: 7/10 - The ride is comfortable, I think a firmer ride would be preferable though.

      7. Handling: 7/10 - There's lots of grip here, but the car is still sort of floaty and then there's the understeer. At the very minimum the car needs swaybars, I plan on adding springs, Bilsteins, STI strut brace, and better tires next year as well though.

      8. Gearbox: 6/10 - It isn't the STI 6-speed, but it gets the job done, though it isn't the best manual I've driven. A STI short shifter, some better fluid, and bushings could this up to a 7 or 8 though.

      9. Audio: 7/10 - Engine noise is pretty subdued, the turbo can only be heard slightly at high RPM and the exhaust note which is sans boxer rumble is pretty quiet imo. I'm no audiophile, the HK system sounds decent and works for me since all I really listen to is satellite radio.

      10. Toys: 7/10 - The nav is alright, not the best but it gets the job done. There isn't much more to put in this category. I wish Subaru offered SI drive or HIDs in N.America, but it is what it is I guess.

      11. Value: 8/10 - I believe the BM9 Legacy GT is an excellent value for any enthusiast who needs a family hauler but doesn't want their soul eroded in their daily drive . For the most part what the car doesn't do well you can remedy w/the admittedly small aftermarket following this generation has. Actually, my only issue w/the car is the mileage since it's well under 30mpg. I don't mind too much though b/c there isn't anything the midsize segment that matches it.

      12. Total: 72/100 - An acceptable score, with a few mods I suspect an 80-90 is easily possible.
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      12-16-2012 11:51 PM #33
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      2. Exterior 8/10 Minus a couple areas I'd fix, the exterior is perfect to me, especially with the 2010+ refresh. Looks mean and aggressive. I like that.

      3. Interior 6/10 The interior could use some improvements in certain areas IMHO. The center stack is easy to reach and use, but the shifter/e-brake/cup holder get crowded easy, especially on road trips with 2 bottles in the cup holders. The door materials are bargain basement. They hold up to weather and scuffs, just too hard though.

      4. Acceleration 9/10. This thing scoots. I'll make it a 10/10 this next year when I put in the 3.73 gears.

      5. Braking 5/10. Stock brakes are just ok. I'll be fixing the issue in the aftermarket world. Brembo package probably fixes this issue, but mine was used and didn't come with that option.

      6. Ride 6/10. The stock ride was just ok. Took bumps well and was easy to drive on rapid trips. But now I've gone crazy and lowered it and put on adjustable stiffer shocks/struts and now it's a tad bumpy in cities with bad roads.

      7. Handling 5/10 stock. Now thanks to the aftermarket I'd say its an 8/10.

      8. Gearbox 7/10. I'd give it higher if it wasn't so finicky in cold weather, but once it warms up its great.

      9. Audio 6/10. Sync is great but can be finicky. Speakers are just ok and will be remedied soon.

      10. Toys 10/10. I bought this car because it has a massive aftermarket parts support. It only depends how deep your wallet is. I've been concentrating on suspension so far (springs, adjustable shocks/struts, lower control arms/relocation brackets, adjustable panhard bar/panhard brace, sway bars, wheels and tires). Next year is gears, tune, lightweight driveshaft, install my MGW short shift kit and start on brake upgrades plus other little exterior mods. Also want to install the 302 steering wheel.

      11. Value 9/10. 412 horsepower, rwd coupe for $30k. Hell of a deal IMHO.

      12. Total 71/100


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      12-16-2012 11:54 PM #34
      2004 Passat 1.8t 4motion 5spd 158+k miles

      This car was my post-divorce car and my 7th Volkswagen. The 98 Acura CL 3.0 my ex dumped on me was a good car but I couldn't bare driving the thing because of that simple fact so I ended up trading it on the Passat.

      Over the past 6+ yrs its been everything I've come to expect it to be. The coils, coolant temp sensor, engine speed sensor, control arms and fuel pump went out at around the same mileage as others I'd read about..lol.

      The design has aged well in b5.5 guise and a Revo flash made it better able to get out of its own way. It's options list is pretty rare (1.8t, 4motion, 5spd) and its basically riding on a C5 A6 suspension which has been "upgraded" with coilovers augmented by the addition of 19" BBS LM (reps *shhhh*). Best part of her is she's paid off.



      Interior 6/10
      Exterior 7/10 though mine does have scars from a parking mishap and a healthy tree limb
      Braking 7/10
      Acceleration 4/10 *from a stop pffft ..but highway pulls 6/10
      Ride 6/10
      Handling 6/10 improved over stock
      Gearbox 6/10 it works
      Audio stock except for 6" Blaupunkts in the rears cause the engine note is blah
      Value 10/10 to me.. I plan on keeping it at least another 2-3yrs unless catastrophic failure

    10. 12-17-2012 12:05 AM #35
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      2. Exterior- 10/10 love it, A SUV thats actually capable off road made before soccer moms took over

      3. Interior 7/10 Very tight fitting interior but boring. Not a single thing is broken though. Comfortable seats but lacking leg room

      4. Acceleration 1/10 107hp 22re plus 4000lb 4x4 truck does not exactly throw you back in your seat. But it always goes at least.

      5. Braking 6/10 It stops but the rears arent working near as well as the fronts so the fronts lock up easy

      6. Ride 8/10 firm but comfortable, rear is a little stiff and bouncy but its perfect with a couple people in the back

      7 Handling 3/10 its quite top heavy and has slow steering but its exactly what you would expect

      8 Gearbox 10/10 shifts are very tight and still notchy, 70mph is about 2800rpms but thats the way it has to be with the 22re

      9. Toys- 5/10 inclinometer

      10. Audio 3/10 factory speakers but a nice alpine headunit with ipod hook up

      11. value- 10/10 it will run forever and i could sell it anytime for as much as i paid and i dont expect the resale to go down anytime soon

      12. 63/100
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      12-17-2012 12:37 AM #36


      2. Exterior 5/10
      I get a couple compliments here and there, but it reminds me of a corolla sometimes

      3. Interior 8/10
      I personally think the interior is very nice. The steering wheel is wrapped in leather and all of the plastics have a quality feel to them. The seat warmers are amazing (just like most vw's)

      4. Acceleration 6/10
      I used to think the thing was so fast. But after driving my uncles '10 Camaro SS 6 speed I realized it isnt at all. My friends consider it fast but they drive 20 year old lifted pick-up's

      5. Braking 8/10
      I love the brakes on this car. They grab nicely.

      6. Ride 6/10
      When it was on stock suspension it was very smooth on the highway...now that it's on sport springs the ride can be pretty harsh at times.

      7. Handling 8/10
      Very forgiving to toss around. I love taking it out on twisty country roads.

      8. Gearbox 8/10
      While I prefer manual, I personally think the DSG is a brilliant gearbox. I pretty much always drive in tiptronic and downshift every chance I get.

      9. Audio 7/10
      It's alright. I have definitely heard better though

      10. Toys 10/10
      not too sure what toys are

      11. Value 4/10
      Has depreciated a pretty good amount now that I'm nearing 50k. Was not expecting such quick depreciation but that's life

      12. Total 70/100...Sounds like my grades back in highschool
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      12-17-2012 09:00 AM #37
      1. Mine is this exact same vehicle only a little dirtier right now.




      2. Exterior 5/10
      It looks like a big truck, but a nice one. Much better than the Eddie Bauer two tone versions.

      3. Interior 8/10
      Plastic, but functional. It's huge and serves every possible purpose for my family and work needs.

      4. Acceleration 2/10
      Triton V8 vs. 7000 lbs.

      5. Braking 2/10
      It will stop

      6. Ride 7/10
      Smooth here, thanks to the air ride. It's actually very quiet.

      7. Handling 1/10
      Not a vehicle to even test handling.

      8. Gearbox 4/10
      It shifts through 5 gears w/ OD. Just had to replace a torque converter at 100,000 miles. I can get 20 mpg highway.

      9. Audio 5/10
      Movies sound good on built-in, flip-down DVD

      10. Toys 8/10
      Heated and cooled seats, enough room to move a family of 5 on a trip to Costco with a stroller in the back. Would have given a 9 here if the 07 had phone controls or Sync.

      11. Value 8/10
      Bought it for $18K with 100K on the odometer. Have had to replace all plugs and half the coilpacks, and that torque converter in the first year of ownership. Total cost out of pocket $1250. We don't drive much, so gas prices aren't a problem. I feel like we got a $60K vehicle for $18K.

      12. Total 50/100... Score doesn't reflect how perfect a vehicle this is for our family.

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      12-17-2012 09:51 AM #39
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      2. Exterior 8/10. It's no Aston, but I love th e '05-09 Mustangs. Classic like my old '70 Fastbacks, but still completely modern in detailing. And I think the upgrades I've done to it enhance that feeling.

      3. Interior 6/10. A little on the hard plasticky side, I still like the styling.

      4. Acceleration 6/10. Not bad with the 3.55s in the back, but could use a bit more oomph. A supercharger kit would solve that.

      5. Braking 6/10. Again, not bad, and the new tires really made a lot of difference. A bit of dive, but easily dealt with.

      6. Ride 7/10. I find it comfy and smooth, as the springs and shocks are still stock. I could stand it to be a bit stiffer, though, to control the dive under braking.

      7. Handling 7/10. I've driven a lot of good cars on teh street and track and this thing surprised me when i first drove it. It corners falt, and the line is very controllable with the throttle. Any oversteer is controllable, and the traction control lets there be a little bit of fun before reeling you back in. It's no Miata, but it's also no Camry.

      8. Gearbox 7/10. Short throws, accurate, but slightly stiff.

      9. Audio 8/10. The Shaker 500 sound system was nicely upgraded with the new bluetooth HU, but it doesnt' get turned up often due to the excellent soundtrack provided by the Pypes Violator exhaust. I may upgrade that to the Pype Bomb exhaust just to get more volume from it.

      10. Toys 9/10. Outstanding aftermarket support, with anything I could want available. So far ive' done a lot of minor customization, but more suspension work and a supercharger are in it's future.

      11. Value 7/10. It's a fairly new car and so it's still depreciating, thus some of it's value is lost. But the price was quite good for what the car cost new (I paid $16k against a $19k asking price when book was $22k). And what you get for the money is a lot of car.

      12. Total 71/100. Woudl i buy it again? Yes, I would.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      12-17-2012 09:53 AM #40


      2. Exterior 10/10 - Great looking for the price/brand, i can't go to the grocery store without someone stopping me, or drive on the freeway without people hanging out their window

      3. Interior 9/10 - Very solid, the stiff suspension has made the interior light fixture in the glove compartment and the trunk rattle a bit, but can be cured with some mounting tape i am told.

      4. Acceleration 8/10 - acceleration is great, although second gear is a bit long so low RPM second gear accel is a bit laggy. also traction control is very invasive, and can make you look like a retard.


      5. Braking 8/10 - The brembos are great, they just need a pad with less fade


      6. Ride 5/10 - well it is low and rough. rides good for what it is.


      7. Handling 10/10 - it is a blast to drive, best parts of my day is commuting. Probably would handle better higher but i don't have any desire to shave 10ths of a second off my commute. i'm simple; it is fun to kick the ass out and it looks good.


      8. Gearbox 7/10 - needs a stiffer trans mount, better bushings and different fluids. Clutch is also an oddity, but you get used to it.


      9. Audio 8/10 - great pairing, ipod dock, and interface. great sound for not having the premium audio.


      10. Toys 8/10 - i wish i had heated seats, but the best bluetooth i have ever experienced in a car. also the LSD is a great add. nothing else that I am really left wanting


      11. Value 10/10 - i couldn't ask for a better car for the money


      12. Total 83/100... pretty much a 90 with some trans mods, brake pads and if you don't care about bump stiffness.
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    16. 12-17-2012 10:13 AM #41

      97 civic ex
      1. Exterior 5/10
      It's got dents and scratches but still shines ok for a 15 year old car. Will be getting a new red camo paint job this winter

      2. Interior 5/10
      It's stock

      3. Acceleration 6/10
      It has a Jdm b16 I/H/E and cams. Never been on a dyno but I would assume around 160whp

      4. Brakes 7/10
      Axis pads stop well. It's only 2450 lbs

      5. Ride 6/10
      Stock springs koni's rides well

      6. Handling 8/10
      See ride. Does very well with 615k's in the summer

      7. Gearbox 8/10
      Non lsd 5 speed. Still going great no 3rd gear grind yet

      8. Audio 10/10
      2 ab xfl 10's in a custom birch fourth order , pioneer pr80, focal polyglass components , ph4000 md , kicker 350.4. Two deka 31's 50 feet of 2/0 welding cable. Around 3k rms

      9. Toys 2/10
      Besides the stereo it has a sunroof and power windows and locks

      10. Value 10/10
      Paid 2500 minus the stereo and koni's.

      Total 67/100

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      12-17-2012 10:22 AM #42
      1. At least one picture. Preferably of your actual car, not Google.


      2. Exterior 4/10

      I bought this car specifically because it was a three-door hatchback. So I'm partial to how it looks in that respect. Overall the looks are hit or miss for me. From some angles, it reminds me of an EG Civic hatch. That's good. From most angles it reminds me of a minivan. That's not good.

      3. Interior 7/10

      For an $18K car, the interior is really nice. It's rather bland spartan compared to the TDi and GTI, but I prefer simplicity over bells and whistles. The seats are comfortable and everything is laid out nicely on the dashboard. I definitely prefer the center stack design over what I'm seeing in many of the newer cars. Designs based on 90's all-in-one stereo systems seem to be the current trend elsewhere. So... Basic, no-frills, comfortable. I'm good with that. Oh, and the utility of the hatch. Just brought a 7ft Xmas tree home inside the car. Yay!

      4. Acceleration 6/10

      People seem to love to hate the 2.5L because it's not the TDI or GTI, and I think a lot of that is undeserved. I have a 2010 with the original gearing before they made changes to address fuel economy and I've been happy with it. The engine has decent punch off the line and feels right in it's power-band tooling along on the highway around 60-70MPH. Seems like it has good power until you drive it very aggressively. Then you can tell where it falls flat as it runs out of steam after 5K RPM. For a commuter it's got enough punch to be fun for day to day commutes and passing.

      5. Braking 5/10

      Part of it's because I'm on the stock all-seasons, but overall it feels mid-pack for heavy braking. No complaints, but no praise either. Knock 500 pounds off the curb weight and then it might be worth writing home about.

      6. Ride 6/10

      Smooth ride that feels planted but isn't jarring. I'm a Honda person at heart, but riding in my wife's RSX is night and day in terms of how much of the road noise/imperfections are heard/felt in the cabin.

      7. Handling 6/10

      The feels planted and tossable. It's fun to throw into corners, but could definitely use after-market dampers/springs/tires to really give it more bite

      8. Gearbox 6/10

      Does the job. Not as slick as some of the Honda transmissions I've been familiar with, but no irritations either. Best I can say is that I don't ever think about it. Damning with faint praise?

      9. Audio 6/10 (Everything. Engine noise, exhaust, stereo, etc.)

      I like the base radio. I'm picky about audio and it sounds good enough for everything from ambient to dub to industrial to house. It's like years better than the bass boosted muddy crap that my Miata's Bose system put out. I prefer the basic radio with AUX input over the touch screen interface of the higher end stereo. Part of that is that I believe it is less likely to have issues in the long run and less likely to be stolen. Maybe? Maybe not?

      10. Toys 6/10

      I'm not sure I'll ever be able to live without heated seats, heated mirrors, or Bluetooth again. Not much else going on in this department.

      11. Value 7/10

      I think this car offers a lot of refinement for the the price range it falls into. The post-2009 2.5L has a reputation for being very reliable and at 42K miles, I have had zero issues. Maintenance is expensive, but not terrible. Oil changes run $90but are due every 10K miles ( do mine more frequently) and my 40K was $480. As long as the car doesn't start breaking after the 50K, as VWs are supposedly prone to do, the car is a good value. If it starts nickle and diming me with annoying repairs as it ages, it'll be gone pretty quickly. I'm hoping for almost, but not quite, Honda reliability up to 100K miles.

      12. Total 59/100

      It's a "nice" car that seems perfect to someone looking for a commuter that's not a total bore to drive. Ownership costs and initial reliability seem reasonable for a Euro car. My original choice was a Honda Fit and this seems like more car for similar coin in every respect except cargo and potential long-term reliability. Still, I can't say that I don't wonder if a Fit would have been a better choice for me in the long run every time I pass one on the road.
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      2. Exterior 9/10 - (I'm assuming condition?) Minor nicks here and there from usage, but you can practically eat food off the paint. (styling-wise, 6/10)
      3. Interior 7/10 - it's bland, but utilitarian for my purposes. Seats could have bigger bolsters, my next upgrade may be to the JDM semi-bucket Recaros.
      4. Acceleration 6/10 - 131 lb/ft leaves something to be desired, but the gearing makes up for it nicely.
      5. Braking 9/10 - brakes are superb for your standard floating caliper. No fade, good modulation, great power.
      6. Ride 7/10 - I'm on Konis with 375F/350R springs so driving around on rough roads isn't exactly enjoyable.
      7. Handling 9/10 - The car just grips and grips, even on regular UHPs. Once I switch to the RE-11s, I'll almost never lose traction provided I as a driver don't do anything wrong. Lift throttle oversteer when you want it (or not, as my last even at Mid-Ohio proved), almost nonexistent understeer (of course there's power understeer due to FWD but that's expected.)
      8. Gearbox 9/10 - Your typical Honda manual: creamy clutch, very mechanical feel, makes even an amateur rev-matcher feel like a pro.
      9. Audio 9/10 (Everything. Engine noise, exhaust, stereo, etc.) - I've got an AEM CAI so whenever I cross into VTEC the car just sings.
      10. Toys what/10 - What is this?
      11. Value 9/10 - Paid $15,000, and while for a relatively stock car that gets used semi-regularly on the street and on the track, that may be a little high. But despite the FWD, it's still a lot of car for the money.
      12. Total 84/100 - Great car, could always use more power, but the offerings on stock form from the factory are really amazing. Honda really showed the world what is possible with the FWD layout sans turbo.
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      12-17-2012 12:29 PM #44


      1997 Audi A4 Quattro 1.8T

      1. Exterior 7/10
      I absolutely love the body shape and styling of this car. After an accident I replaced the stock front bumper with an OEM S4 bumper, but the fitment isn't quite right. There are also a bunch of various dings and scratches in the paint that can't really be buffed out. Not bad overall, but black is a tough color to maintain. The passenger-side stubby mirror bothers me as it looks a bit awkward when both mirrors are different sizes.

      2. Interior 3/10
      I really don't like anything about the interior besides the dash. The early pre-facelift model lacks a lot of the more modern features found in the facelift version of the vehicle. The base, gray cloth interior is cheap and ugly, and the seats are very uncomfortable. I find my back aching after about an hour of driving. The 4-spoke steering wheel is made of cheap black vinyl material that fails to look like leather. I try to forget that the cup holders in this car even exist, because they fail to actually hold a cup of any sort. There is no center armrest.

      3. Acceleration 6/10
      She's currently in the process of having her engine rebuild, so I'll comment on the motor before it was overhauled. With the Stage 1 flash and stock turbo, it really does have some pickup and go. The low-end powerband is fantastic for Autocross and daily driving and has enough balls to put a smile on my face when I get on it. I do find myself wanting more sometimes, but that will happen soon enough once the new motor is in.

      4. Braking 7/10
      The brakes are nothing special here. They do enough to stop the vehicle as it is now, but I find that they heat up and start to fade pretty quickly. I've installed some new solid rotors and EBC Green Stuff brake pads in the rear which seem to give it a little more bite. Pedal feel isn't bad but it could be just a tad stiffer. I plan to make quite a few brake upgrades in the near future to go along with the engine upgrades.

      5. Ride 6/10
      The car features a low-to-mid-range set of Vmaxx coilovers, which are only height adjustable. For daily driving, I find that the ride is rather bumpy and quite harsh. The control arm bushings are worn and have yet to be replaced, which adds to the "clunk" sound over bumps. The Quattro system makes the car an overall blast to drive.

      6. Handling 7/10
      Although the ride is harsh, I find that with the lower ride height and stiffer spring rate it actually does corner fairly well. For Autocross however, I plan to raise it up some more in the future to allow more shock travel. The worn control arms tend to add a little slop into the steering response, unfortunately. The S4 rear sway bar helps to compensate for turn-in a bit. As expected, the AWD drivetrain dramatically helps with high-speed cornering and it is a blast to drive.

      7. Gearbox 8/10
      Nothing special here. Second tends to grind when downshifting from third at times. The shifter is a little sloppy, but not NEARLY as bad as my brother's Civic, which I would rate a 1/10. Love the short throw and mechanical feel compared to my slightly-more-sloppy VR6.

      8. Audio 4/10
      Pretty awful, to say the least. A couple of the speakers are beginning to crackle and are probably worn or blown. The car is not equipped with the factory Bose system, and fails to properly project highs or lows. As someone who loves music, this is an area that could most certainly use some improvement in the future.

      9. Toys 7/10
      Lots of mods, too many to list. The car has basically drained my bank account, but with it has come vast improvement in drivability. The "fun" factor steadily increases.

      10. Value 9/10
      Aside from the fact that I've spent a lot of money on this car, they can be had for under $3000, and are a fantastic value. The 1.8t motor is easy to work with and there are countless aftermarket parts and suppliers out there. Quattro is fantastic. Parts are fairly inexpensive and the car still looks pretty sharp compared to some of the newer models. I am very happy with my purchase.

      Total: 64/100
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      12-17-2012 12:44 PM #45
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      12. Total 71/100. Woudl i buy it again? Yes, I would.
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      12-17-2012 02:00 PM #46
      You have a category for Gearbox but no category for Engine? For an enthusiast, I can't think of anything that makes or breaks the character of a car than the engine...
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      12-17-2012 02:03 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm0075 View Post
      2 different Mustangs, same score
      With different scores in each category, too...


      Quote Originally Posted by mhjett View Post
      You have a category for Gearbox but no category for Engine? For an enthusiast, I can't think of anything that makes or breaks the character of a car than the engine...
      Most people seem to be using the "acceleration" category for that (as well as a bit of the "audio" one for the sound it makes)
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      12-17-2012 02:32 PM #48
      2008 BMW 335i

      1. No pics, its terribly dirty (it's Ontario in the late fall, you can't keep a car clean), who doesn't know what a 335i sedan looks like, raise your hands?

      2. Exterior 7/10
      - I don't like the tail lights, the updated kidneys/front looks better... but oh well. It's classic BMW styling still overall wins me over. Gets a lot of positive comments, especially in Monaco Blue.
      3. Interior 8/10
      - I like the interior layout, how simple everything is to operate, and the German business-like personality of it. It has the Terra leather and walnut wood inserts, perfect! Only demerit is a (common) rattle from the radio area. I know how to fix it, so just need to find the time and the felt tape to do it... not a biggie.
      4. Acceleration 9/10
      - More power then I'll ever need... Very satisfying
      5. Braking 7/10
      - They don't like it being wet... they take a long time to 'dry', and they have side/side pull when wet as well. The rest of the system works great, but yah... too twitchy/scary when the disks are soaked and you brake the first time
      6. Ride 8/10
      - The roads here are BAD... so this car is verging on a little too firm. Overall ride quality is fantastically damped, could use softer set-up for where I live tho. If I lived in an area with better roads, it would be a 9/10
      7. Handling 8/10
      - Very neutral, can play with the throttle. Not the most chuck-able car I've ever had. But very capable and fun! High limits... With RWD it isn't the most fun in snow/rain tho - my Audi was better, but on dry roads it's a blast.
      8. Gearbox 9/10
      - Best automatic I've driven to date... Love that it has three modes (normal/economy... sport... then a manual override. Sport mode is heaven)
      9. Audio 10/10 (Everything. Engine noise, exhaust, stereo, etc.)
      - H/K Logic 7 sound, and one of the best engine/exhaust notes I've ever heard on a passenger car... puts some muscle cars to shame. Straight six
      10. Toys 8/10
      - It's got most of the toys covered. Missing nav (on purpose) and heated steering wheel ()... Wish it had the adjustable thigh support some BMW's have
      11. Value 8/10
      - Got it for $26,800, with 52k kms on it (30k miles), 2 years warranty still on it, lower payments then my Golf, insurance is similar, get great mileage for how much power it has... so far so good!
      12. Total 82/100
      -So far, best car I've owned... I liked my Audi more in some ways (ride and handling year round was better)... but the BMW is built better, has way more value (warranty helps, so does a good purchase price)... Very solid car.

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      12-17-2012 02:35 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Live-Wire View Post
      2008 BMW 335i

      1. No pics, its terribly dirty (it's Ontario in the late fall, you can't keep a car clean), who doesn't know what a 335i sedan looks like, raise your hands?
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      12-17-2012 03:01 PM #50
      1. I don't take pictures of my car. Deal with it. It's a stock green 2003 Jetta.

      2. Exterior 2/10
      Well, the structure has held up pretty well for a 10 year old car. All the panels are still there and they're all still green. There's the usual dents from parking spots and the puckers in the bumper from getting hit by a hit-n-run driver, but hey. 1 wheel is curbed, but it was like that when I got it. The bonus here is that I can hit things and not really care.

      3. Interior 2/10
      Smells like Crayola crayons. VW likes to use the cheapest ****ing leather that looks and feels like plastic and the plastic crap on the door handles and dash are shrinking/peeling in a lot of places. I guess it has held up pretty well considering it's age. Sagging headliner automatically deducts 5 points because it's annoying as hell.

      4. Acceleration -3/10
      Would have been -5, but I feel that would be too harsh as every time I hit the accelerator pedal, it has worked.

      5. Braking 0/10
      No matter how many brake pads....fluid flush.....fluid bleeds....etc I perform, it still exhibits the braking performance of the Costa Concordia. Planning stops requires a 1/4 mile of lead time.

      6. Ride 2/10
      Terrible road noise and wind howl at speed. Ridiculously loud at 80mph.

      7. Handling 0/10
      Shocks and bushings are probably worn out.

      8. Gearbox 3/10
      Decent. Handles abuse. Could use a 6th gear though.

      9. Audio 1/10 (Everything. Engine noise, exhaust, stereo, etc.)
      The engine is loud and clangy and the exhaust is nothing special....maybe a little too loud. 1 point given because the radio makes sound.

      10. Toys 0/10
      Dude....it's a ****ing Jetta.

      11. Value 10/10
      The goddamn thing was free and it costs less than a decent meal to insure.

      12. Total 17/100
      Overall, it's a good prime number.
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