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      12-17-2012 09:32 AM #1
      This thread is for those cars that you've driven and hated, but can't objectively express why you hate them. For those cars that irk your very soul for no good reason.

      For me, that would be 4 door E46's. I've driven E30's and E36's and loved them dearly, but not only do I not like the E46 sedan I drove, I also think its really unattractive. And I can't actually point to any particular design flaw or cue, but I just hate them.


      The other one is one I bought brand new.


      Mine was a black CE. It drove perfectly adequate, but I hated seeing it in my driveway everyday, and I can't put my finger on why. I mean, it was boring, but I've had plenty of boring cars that I liked more that didn't perform as well as this car did. What I hated most was the automatic and the lack of legroom in the front. My wife loved it, but it fit her just fine.

      What cars bring out the irrational hate in you?

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      12-17-2012 09:35 AM #2
      I feel ya ... I've always thought they looked too similar to the 7th gen Civics ...




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      12-17-2012 10:04 AM #3
      It's so ugly because it has like 4 body lines on each side of it that all run in different directions. I'm not a fan either, I think they look terrible. They cleaned it up a bit in the 330ci, and the M3 is a LOT better. It's almost as if they made the M3 first, and then kept adding lines until the 3 series was dumbed down enough

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      12-17-2012 10:04 AM #4
      Hmm. My stepson got an E46 325i Sport 4 door from his dad. 220k on it and it was in parfect shape other than rear window regulators. I loved driving that car. The Sport models better seats and suspension made it a joy to drive fast. I almost bought it from him when he went to trade it in on his STi, the 4 door being so much more practical than the Mustang.



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      12-17-2012 10:09 AM #5
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      12-17-2012 12:55 PM #6


      Maybe because everyone praises them?
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      12-17-2012 12:58 PM #8
      I don't "hate" my GTI, but I don't really like it very much, despite it fitting my needs well and not being a bad car in most objective measures.

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      12-17-2012 01:07 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      I feel ya ... I've always thought they looked too similar to the 7th gen Civics ...
      For me I saw more similarity in the previous generations, but yes, I remember noticing Honda and BMW sharing some cues around that time period

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      12-17-2012 01:09 PM #10
      The pre-facelift MKV Quattroporte. Just didn't look good from most angles. Interior was nice and the engine was orgasmic with the right exhaust, however

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      12-17-2012 01:10 PM #11
      despise these



      hate the new face on the tiguans



      don't know why but these bother me



      as do these

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      12-17-2012 01:13 PM #12
      I was going to say Fiat 500 but then I realized I could list like 10 things I hate about that car. I just don't get why anyone likes them, other than the fact that they are sort of cute to look at while parked.

      So my vote is Honda CRV. Had one for a week. Really couldn't stand it at all. Actually made me depressed driving it. But there is nothing really wrong with it, per se.


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      12-17-2012 01:14 PM #13
      My mom's 07 Camry! Anytime i go back home to PR i have to drive it a few times and it's just soul sucking personified or in its case Camryfied. But can you honestly blame me, i drive a Nevar lose Gti.

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      12-17-2012 01:17 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by 66Satellite View Post
      I was going to say Fiat 500 but then I realized I could list like 10 things I hate about that car. I just don't get why anyone likes them, other than the fact that they are sort of cute to look at while parked.

      Some of us like small cars, especially small cars that are fun to drive, and make good noises, which the 500 does in all it's forms. It's stylish and not just a penalty box on wheels.

      And evosky? Why the Clubman S? Or are you just saying MINIs?
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      12-17-2012 01:19 PM #15
      E30's. Maybe if it was an '89. maybe.


      Old Porsches


      MKV Golfs (Not Jettas)


      The list will probably increase.

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      12-17-2012 01:22 PM #16
      mk3 Golf - test driven in 1994 - hated it. Ended up buying a brand new Probe GT instead.


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      12-17-2012 01:24 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 1985Jetta View Post
      E30's. Maybe if it was an '89. maybe.


      Old Porsches


      MKV Golfs (Not Jettas)


      The list will probably increase.
      Are you on Drugs?

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      12-17-2012 01:26 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      Some of us like small cars, especially small cars that are fun to drive, and make good noises, which the 500 does in all it's forms. It's stylish and not just a penalty box on wheels.
      I like plenty of small cars but I didn't find the 500 very fun to drive. I've driven the base and the Abarth. Miata is fun to drive. Alfa Spider is fun to drive. Not a fan of FWD, but I even found the Honda Fit Sport to be kind of fun. GTI, too. 500, not so much. IMO.

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      12-17-2012 01:27 PM #20
      I think to some people, it's the demographic of people who drive these cars that Turn them away:

      Audi/BMW: Broski Douchbags
      Buick/Mercedes: Old people
      Pontiac: Hilbily - Low income Redneck
      Volvo: Hippies

      And so on
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      12-17-2012 01:29 PM #21


      Hate these. Never driven one. Used to walk by a Honda dealer to/from the bus each day...this was the only car on the lot that made me cranky just looking at it. They are so counter to the original engineering ethos that built Honda into an extraordinary company...ugh.



      These are just stupid. 5000lbs, not quick unless equipped with a V8, clumsy to drive, poor rear ingress and terrible cargo space. What was the point, BMW? Awful.



      These, especially in yellow. I appreciate GM trying to do something different...but why this? It looks cartoonishly ugly. It offers minimal practicality. Built on an old truck chassis so it doesn't drive well. Fail on all counts.
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      12-17-2012 01:29 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      And evosky? Why the Clubman S? Or are you just saying MINIs?
      The new Clubman just pisses me off. The proportions are weird, the mini rear doors are whack, the two wiper blades in the back look like they're trying too hard, I dunno. Then you add the people who drive them who think they're cool with a Mini, and I just say

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      12-17-2012 01:30 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Chris_V View Post
      Some of us like small cars, especially small cars that are fun to drive, and make good noises, which the 500 does in all it's forms. It's stylish and not just a penalty box on wheels.
      I used to as well but a friend just bought an Abarth 500 and it is suprisingly quick, comfortable, makes an amazingly good noise (now, a top favorite exhaust noise) and is fun to drive.


      Me:
      - Anything "supercar." Im supposed to like them but they do absolutely nothing for me.
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      - VW CC and Mercedes CLS and any other 4 door "coupe"

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      12-17-2012 01:33 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by GruuvenNorth View Post
      I think to some people, it's the demographic of people who drive these cars that Turn them away:


      Pontiac: Hilbily - Low income Redneck
      Volvo: Hippies

      And so on

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      12-17-2012 01:34 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      I used to as well but a friend just bought an Abarth 500 and it is suprisingly quick, comfortable, makes an amazingly good noise (now, a top favorite exhaust noise) and is fun to drive.


      Me:
      - Anything "supercar." Im supposed to like them but they do absolutely nothing for me.
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      pre refresh looked epic, new one looks horrid.

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      12-17-2012 01:35 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 1.8 skeet skeet View Post
      Are you on Drugs?
      nope. do not want any of them, except an '89 E30.

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      12-17-2012 01:36 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Br1zzy View Post


      Maybe because everyone praises them?
      feel the same about that car.

      i do know the main reason i dont like them- no matter how fast or good, it just looks like a riced-out car in general.
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    30. 12-17-2012 01:39 PM #30
      I don't hate my 2008 Civic, but I don't like or love it. I miss "liking" a car... I need to get something different.

      Reason why I dont like it:
      Windshield pillars are big. The vehicle sometimes feels like im driving a dishwasher with its front blind spots. You get used to them, but they are getting tiring.

      I got a manual transmission thinking it would be fun, but its not. There is noticeable lag for the rpms to go down while shifting, which creates a HORRIBLE driving experience. Its sad to say, but my next car is going to be automatic because of this.
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      12-17-2012 01:43 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by evosky View Post
      The new Clubman just pisses me off. The proportions are weird, the mini rear doors are whack, the two wiper blades in the back look like they're trying too hard, I dunno. Then you add the people who drive them who think they're cool with a Mini, and I just say
      After testing out the Clubman last week, compared to our MINI I love it. I like the extra length without being a big car, and I love the barn doors on the rear. I like that I can get in and out of the backseat without folding the front seats forward, and have more legroom in the back than in our standard MINI. It's a very practical car that retains all the fun-ness of the MINI. And I'm one of those people that likes the community that there is around the MINI. The people that smile and wave from other MINIs. The fun little things that BMW built into MINI ownership are a bonus. Sorry that you hate fun.
      I love cars, but the problem is they are like schroedinger's hobby. They're always in a quantum superstate of being both awesome and a huge waste of time and money... until observation momentarily forces them into one state or another.

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      12-17-2012 01:43 PM #33



      I'm sure they're great, but honestly, I just don't like them at all.
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      What just cause Im new.

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      12-17-2012 01:45 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by DRUB View Post
      What just cause Im new.

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      12-17-2012 01:51 PM #35
      Cobalt SS (not the G5 GT) maybe i'd get one if it were in battle machine form.


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