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      01-14-2013 04:52 AM #1
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      Volt reskinned - and luckily the worst thing about the Volt has been dropped on this one: The terrible "gear" selector.

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      01-14-2013 08:34 AM #3
      With each new model intro, Caddy's interiors keep getting better and better!

      When the flagship finally debuts, I expect it's interior to be at Rolls or Bentley levels of refinement.

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      01-14-2013 08:57 AM #4
      If I can't afford the Tesla Model S when the Prius is paid off, I want this
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      01-14-2013 09:28 AM #5
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    6. 01-14-2013 09:33 AM #6
      Cadillac is punching hard!

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      01-14-2013 10:09 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by omoderncultureo View Post
      First detailed shots:

      Is this a leather & suede stiched/wrapped, wood and carbon fiber stacked dashboard?! If so, damn! Can't wait for the complete reveal.

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      01-14-2013 10:17 AM #8
      If the overall design is half as good as the details (I'm confident it will look fantastic), it'll be quite a stunner!
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      01-14-2013 10:32 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by omoderncultureo View Post
      First detailed shots:






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      It's like they fanned out a coverings swatch book and said, YES that looks perfect.

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      01-14-2013 10:45 AM #10
      Those lights look amazing! First time I've seen the production version headlights look better than the concept! GM looks like it really knocked it out of the park for this autoshow.

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      01-14-2013 10:47 AM #11
      That wood trim is daaaaang.
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      01-14-2013 11:07 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      That wood trim is daaaaang.
      Yeah, it looks like burned wood that's been encased in transparent aluminum. This is a good thing, btw.
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      01-14-2013 11:14 AM #13
      Are these front or back seats? I guess what I'm asking is if this is supposed to be a two seater or four?

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      01-14-2013 11:17 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      Are these front or back seats? I guess what I'm asking is if this is supposed to be a two seater or four?
      Back seats. It's a 4-seater.

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      01-14-2013 11:18 AM #15
      You know, a luxury electric impractical 2-door front-drive coupe doesn't sound like it would make sense, but it does. They don't have to cater to people looking for a 3-wide backseat or an economy car price tag, or people who expect electric hybrids of any ilk to 'pay for themselves' otherwise they're not worth it.

      This is going to be a no-holds-barred stylish PHEV for people who want a plug-in car, but not a frumpy one. It's probably a small niche, but I wish them well on it.


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      01-14-2013 11:21 AM #17
      I hope they have a Vegan trim package. The target audience for an electric luxury car might prefer a vehicle that isn't trimmed in the skins of dead cows. The wood trim might also be viewed as unfriendly to the environment.

      I'm fine with leather and wood, but it is something I hope they considered.

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      01-14-2013 11:24 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      You know, a luxury electric impractical 2-door front-drive coupe doesn't sound like it would make sense, but it does. They don't have to cater to people looking for a 3-wide backseat or an economy car price tag, or people who expect electric hybrids of any ilk to 'pay for themselves' otherwise they're not worth it.

      This is going to be a no-holds-barred stylish PHEV for people who want a plug-in car, but not a frumpy one. It's probably a small niche, but I wish them well on it.
      Yep. I think there's a market for the number they likely wish to sell and the higher margins will certainly help them pay for the Voltec drivetrain.
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      01-14-2013 11:26 AM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      I hope they have a Vegan trim package. The target audience for an electric luxury car might prefer a vehicle that isn't trimmed in the skins of dead cows. The wood trim might also be viewed as unfriendly to the environment.

      I'm fine with leather and wood, but it is something I hope they considered.

      If they really wanted to be cray cray, they would use reclaimed wood from older cars and other scrap. Might sound odd, but its a big trend in home building and remodeling now.
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      01-14-2013 11:33 AM #20
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      No, but really, this car is looking HOT. Makes a lot of sense as a personal car for someone living near or in a city.
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      01-14-2013 11:35 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      I hope they have a Vegan trim package. The target audience for an electric luxury car might prefer a vehicle that isn't trimmed in the skins of dead cows. The wood trim might also be viewed as unfriendly to the environment.

      I'm fine with leather and wood, but it is something I hope they considered.
      Yes, but thinking supply chain capability, and cost that would have to be passed on to buyers-it might have been a bit cost prohibitive. My worry is it's metric performance capabilities--you know the media is going to rip this apart when pitched to it's PHEV darling--the $49,000* Telsa S.

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      01-14-2013 11:38 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by AdrockMK2 View Post
      It's like they fanned out a coverings swatch book and said, YES that looks perfect.
      I know your joking but I would bet $100 that is EXACTLY where the inspiration came from.
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      01-14-2013 11:52 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by curvedinfinity View Post
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      No, but really, this car is looking HOT. Makes a lot of sense as a personal car for someone living near or in a city.
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      01-14-2013 11:57 AM #24
      Those shots look stunning. Can't wait to see the whole thing, hopefully it stays true to the concept

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      01-14-2013 11:58 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      Back seats. It's a 4-seater.
      and that's why I would never buy it or the volt.

      GM figure it out!

      a five seater is far more functional than a cool two-person back seat
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      01-14-2013 12:02 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      and that's why I would never buy it or the volt.

      GM figure it out!

      a five seater is far more functional than a cool two-person back seat
      It's a rakish coupe. Good luck fitting 5 people back there even if there was a middle seat. That's hardly out of place.

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      01-14-2013 12:06 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      and that's why I would never buy it or the volt.

      GM figure it out!

      a five seater is far more functional than a cool two-person back seat
      This isn't a mass-market car in that sense. It's not the bottleneck for number produced/sold.

      Hopefully the next generation will solve this problem, perhaps with a flat battery a' la Tesla and GM's own previous prototypes.
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      01-14-2013 12:09 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      It's a rakish coupe. Good luck fitting 5 people back there even if there was a middle seat. That's hardly out of place.
      I'm not asking to carry 5 adults from LA to Vegas....but the lack of 5th seat is a big issue when you have to take 5 people to dinner or the like.

      it IS a serious issue with many people like me, the extra space is just wasted with the twin buckets.

      we went from a Q5 to a T3 Touareg due to the lack of space in the rear seat area.

      it may work for many, but I think the lack of fucntionality hurts cars like this in sales.
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      01-14-2013 12:16 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      I'm not asking to carry 5 adults from LA to Vegas....but the lack of 5th seat is a big issue when you have to take 5 people to dinner or the like.

      it IS a serious issue with many people like me, the extra space is just wasted with the twin buckets.

      we went from a Q5 to a T3 Touareg due to the lack of space in the rear seat area.

      it may work for many, but I think the lack of fucntionality hurts cars like this in sales.
      This is based on the Volt. The battery is a big T shape and part of the reason there is no 5th seat is the center of the car hides the battery tunnel.

      GM would have to redesign the battery for the ELR or make it a higher riding CUV to give you more passenger space.

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      01-14-2013 12:27 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      I'm not asking to carry 5 adults from LA to Vegas....but the lack of 5th seat is a big issue when you have to take 5 people to dinner or the like.

      it IS a serious issue with many people like me, the extra space is just wasted with the twin buckets.

      we went from a Q5 to a T3 Touareg due to the lack of space in the rear seat area.

      it may work for many, but I think the lack of fucntionality hurts cars like this in sales.
      And while what you say is 100% valid when referring to the Volt, once again we are talking about a 2 door coupe. The CTS coupe only seats 4. I don't know why the ELR would try and sit more.

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      01-14-2013 12:28 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      and that's why I would never buy it or the volt.

      GM figure it out!

      a five seater is far more functional than a cool two-person back seat
      This is designed to be a personal luxury coupe with a hefty shot of high tech, not a people-mover. Do you expect five-up seating out of a 135i, CTS Coupe, Corvette, or TT? No.

      GM is definitely considering the MPV market, but at this point, they're more interested in controlling costs by using a volume platform than they are in offering 5 seats.

      But in a few years, once they transition to a flat pack battery....bet we'll see this.

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      01-14-2013 12:30 PM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by GTRaavv View Post
      And while what you say is 100% valid when referring to the Volt, once again we are talking about a 2 door coupe. The CTS coupe only seats 4. I don't know why the ELR would try and sit more.
      I had no idea this car was a 2 dr coupe, but even my 2 dr GTI seats 5.

      it's the ability to have that 5th seat that is important but not critical.
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      01-14-2013 12:32 PM #34
      The GTI is a hatch, not a coupe.
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      01-14-2013 12:33 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by .LSinLV. View Post
      I had no idea this car was a 2 dr coupe, but even my 2 dr GTI seats 5.

      it's the ability to have that 5th seat that is important but not critical.
      The GTI isn't really a coupe.

      I hadn't seen the "people mover" version of the Volt. I agree with Turbio! that the next gen would be great for that with a flat battery.
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