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      02-25-2013 12:13 AM #51
      You're going to love that ZX trans, they're perfect for the S30.
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      02-25-2013 05:32 PM #52
      Yep! I'm real excited. I've never had a NICE transmission in the car before, it's going to be sweet!!!

      A couple more misc. parts arrived this afternoon.

      K&N air filter

      and my fuel filter (pre fuel rail)

      I'll finish up the fuel system tonight, but here are a couple pictures.













      EDIT: And for those of you wondering, yes, I am fully prepared to relocate the filter further away from the turbo. But for the moment I am leaving it like this to get a good base line temp, and to test the efficiency of the turbo housing, and the exhaust wrap. As long as my IAT doesn't exceed 150-160 I'll be happy with it.

      But I'll probably build a 'cold air intake' either way, as I am curious to see if there is any noted difference.
      Last edited by OldAndyAndTheSea; 02-26-2013 at 09:42 PM.

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      02-26-2013 06:58 PM #53
      Okay so I picked up my new transmission today.

      I've spent most of the afternoon cleaning it up and preparing for the install.

      Here's where I'm at....







      Mount (in primer) I'll paint it black when I go back out to the garage.



      I still need to install the Throw out bearing, it's collar, the clutch fork, and finish painting the transmission mount black.

      Then it can make its way to its new home.

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      02-26-2013 07:50 PM #54
      1- fapfapfapfapfap

      2- Have you thought about swapping your FMIC inlet and outlet? Then the boost piping wouldn't cross over each other and you'd be able to cut out about 1' of tubing. So it would go turbo > in driver's side FMIC inlet > through FMIC > out pass side FMIC outlet > to intake manifold. Just a thought.

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      02-26-2013 09:40 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by zane! View Post
      1- fapfapfapfapfap

      2- Have you thought about swapping your FMIC inlet and outlet? Then the boost piping wouldn't cross over each other and you'd be able to cut out about 1' of tubing. So it would go turbo > in driver's side FMIC inlet > through FMIC > out pass side FMIC outlet > to intake manifold. Just a thought.
      Yeah, I thought about the exact setup you described. It certainly would allow for many easier blow off valve mounting locations.

      But...

      The theory is that you want the hot side of the intercooler piping to be longer (to an extent) so the air has a little more time to cool down, than the cold side, which you would like to be as short as possible. The overall length of the piping does not concern me, in regards to lag. Especially since this little turbo hits full boost at around 2500 rpms.

      This is why I chose the current orientation.

      That, and a it's been proven to lower intake air temperatures by as much as 10 degrees or more. Thanks to a quick search on HybridZ.

      Good thought though! And thanks for the compliment! Not sure she's fap worthy yet, but she's plugging along....

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      02-27-2013 08:25 PM #56
      Throw out bearing is installed. Transmission mount is painted. Reverse sensor is swapped.

      She's ready to go in the car.












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      02-27-2013 10:06 PM #57
      Love the color combo, interesting but clean and not obnoxious.

      In for dyno and videos.
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      03-03-2013 07:41 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by mellbergVWfan View Post
      Love the color combo, interesting but clean and not obnoxious.

      In for dyno and videos.
      I really appreciate that. Thank you. I'm glad to hear that's how it comes off, as that was my intent. Blues can very easily over do it if you're not careful. That's why I have to squelch the couplers and piping a little bit; make it a little more subtle. haha


      Anyways......

      How to install a transmission by yourself.

      Step 1: Be a BAWS

      Step 2: Don't worry about step 2, you're a BAWS.

      Simple as that.










      And just screwing around with a broken boost gauge and a first gen MX-5 a pillar gauge pod that I will adapt for the s30. AFR gauge will go in the top one.


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      03-03-2013 11:38 PM #59
      Got excited since the transmission was in the car. So I just went out and mounted up my downpipe.

      I love the contrast and how it looks overall. But the best part will hopefully be my engine bay temperatures!

      Kind of low light pictures though, sorry....





      Now that the motor is in place, I can play with my throttle linkage, and mock up my exhaust, and finish it up by welding hangers in the correct spots.

      Lots more to come soon...
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      03-04-2013 12:05 AM #60
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      03-04-2013 03:44 PM #61
      Haha, Thanks!

      Cleaning up lots of odds and ends today.

      Nothing glamorous, but progress nonetheless.

      -Finished plumbing up my PCV system,
      -Fit up the exhaust and began taking measurements for hanger locations,
      -Began figuring out where I want my blow off valve to be, along with my GM IAT sensor.

      Oh, and some better pictures of the Miata gauge pod, and where it will be. I can't wait until I'm surrounded by all those gauges lit up!









      I'm getting pretty excited.

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      03-04-2013 03:49 PM #62
      Looking good, almost buttoned up.

      Which ACT clutch did you go with?

      This one? http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/21-2270

      Let me know how you like it i've been thinking about picking one up to replace my slightly worn clutch.

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      03-04-2013 03:59 PM #63
      That interior is so much different than I'm used to, as my Beetle has 2 gauges. If it were 5 years older it would forego the fuel gauge and you'd have to rely on a "reserve" lever.

      I say that, but I've been known to stuff more gauges into breathed-upon cars than they came with, too. I must say that I've ever worked out the difficulty in plumbing and sorting out a turbo application, though. It's coming along nicely. (And quickly!)
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      03-04-2013 04:00 PM #64
      Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
      Looking good, almost buttoned up.

      Which ACT clutch did you go with?

      This one? http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/21-2270

      Let me know how you like it i've been thinking about picking one up to replace my slightly worn clutch.
      Yep, it's that version.

      Only difference is that the one you posted is the 225mm version of the same 240mm one that I am running to match my particular flywheel. So its rated for a bit more torque, but yep that's the one!

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      03-04-2013 04:02 PM #65
      Very nice! Keep it up.

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      03-04-2013 04:11 PM #66
      SUPREMELY awesome, dude. Major props for keeping an L-series in there and modifying that, instead of bastardizing it with a V8.
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      03-18-2013 10:43 PM #67
      Thanks for the love kind people!



      UPDATE:

      Got a new toy to play with!



      I'm currently sourcing out an oven/toaster oven for it, then I will start by powdercoating my intercooler pipes 'wrinkle' black. I'm excited.

      As for actual progress.....Nothing major, as I am once again waiting for parts.

      Here are some small things that I've wrapped up in the interim.

      Coolant line leading to throttle body- Made and installed



      Remade both of my hard lines for the injectors because before the fuel filter was touching a coolant feed to the heater core. Haha. Nothing like preheating your fuel before you try to cool it......

      So the fitment is now much better.

      Also had to slightly modify the front line to not touch the top radiator hose, although it doesn't matter as much as the other line, because it's just going to return to the fuel tank and be cooled anyway. But it looked bad before in my opinion.






      More small details...

      Intercooler brackets, roughed out. Not bolted on, just in place.



      Throttle linkage (not my linkage actually, I stole it off the other Z in the garage, because I modified my original one, so I have to buy a new one. But she's all adjusted and opens correctly, the 240sx 60mm conversion is going to be sweet!)



      Another couple shots of the current state of the motor and assembly.







      Things to do this week. (parts permitting)

      -Tap my thermostat housing for 3/8 NPT (when the tap arrives this week)

      -Mock install of electric radiator fan and thermostat placement (when it arrives this week)

      -Powdercoat majority of intercooler pipes (when powder arrives this week, and when I get a toaster oven)


      More surely to come.....




      Oh ninja edit!

      Exhaust is all finished up and bolted (except for paint and welding in a bung for my wideband)

      Here's the teaser of the muffler fitment. Real understated. I love it.

      Last edited by OldAndyAndTheSea; 03-18-2013 at 10:48 PM.

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      03-19-2013 01:03 AM #68
      I'll be interested to hear what you think of that HotCoat kit... been eying it for awhile.

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      03-19-2013 01:12 AM #69
      Kudos.

      This OP ****ing gets it. This is how you build a car.

      Ill be checking this thread regularly.

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      03-19-2013 01:34 AM #70
      Agreed with above post. This is REALLY classy for any age builder, let alone a 23 year old! You've got talent man, and it seems have found your niche and passion and can pay the bills with it too.

      (runs to Craigslist to find 240 to build...)

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      03-19-2013 10:17 AM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by OldAndyAndTheSea View Post
      Oh yeah, it's going to have to be dyno'd. There's no other way to tune the car.

      But I don't feel these numbers are ambitious at all.

      That being said, they are most definitely on the mid to upper range of what the stock turbo and injectors can handle safely.

      Here is a dyno sheet from one of the other HybridZ members. He was using the following set up. to make 250/320tq

      Essentially my setup exactly.

      L28ET
      STOCK turbo
      'A' cam
      Evo 8 IC w/2.25" piping
      n42 intake
      MSA downpipe to 3" mandrel bent exhaust with summit racing brand turbo muffler
      Kameari 1mm HG
      MS2 v3
      LS1 truck coils



      His motor is also running a much lower compression (originally 7.3:1 now coupled with the 1mm head gasket)

      My motor is 8.3:1 compression, which will make some difference, but it will entirely depend on the tune.
      FYI, it was some kind of record, but I made 301whp/350+wtq with a buddies car w/ exact same setup in a '77 280z. I was the tuner. It was a headgasketed, but otherwise completely stock L28ET. Of course it was FMIC, 3" exhaust, etc. He ran MS2 and we had a hell of a time with GM sensors, especially the IAT. We ended up going through like 5-6 different variants before getting one that worked for us. I can't remember the exact issue we had but I think it was with the voltage.

      I'll see if I can find some old videos and tunes. The car was an incredibly fun autox car (that I drove many times). He drove the setup for over a year before having kids and getting rid of all his toys.
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      03-19-2013 09:16 PM #72
      Quote Originally Posted by GoRacers View Post
      Kudos.

      This OP ****ing gets it. This is how you build a car.

      Ill be checking this thread regularly.
      Quote Originally Posted by Jettin2Class View Post
      Agreed with above post. This is REALLY classy for any age builder, let alone a 23 year old! You've got talent man, and it seems have found your niche and passion and can pay the bills with it too.

      (runs to Craigslist to find 240 to build...)
      Wow what a set of compliments. Thanks guys! Haha!



      Quote Originally Posted by KrautFed View Post
      FYI, it was some kind of record, but I made 301whp/350+wtq with a buddies car w/ exact same setup in a '77 280z. I was the tuner. It was a headgasketed, but otherwise completely stock L28ET. Of course it was FMIC, 3" exhaust, etc. He ran MS2 and we had a hell of a time with GM sensors, especially the IAT. We ended up going through like 5-6 different variants before getting one that worked for us. I can't remember the exact issue we had but I think it was with the voltage.

      I'll see if I can find some old videos and tunes. The car was an incredibly fun autox car (that I drove many times). He drove the setup for over a year before having kids and getting rid of all his toys.
      Very Cool! That's promising news for sure!


      UPDATE:

      Electric cooling fan arrived today.

      Derale 14" Tornado electric cooling fan

      1350 CFM 10.5 amp draw

      I had to trim the bottom of the fan shroud ever so slightly to get it to fit on my radiator. It's a nice snug fit now.

      I had originally opted to make some sort of bracket for it, but after seeing the clearances with the 3 row and the water pump, I think that's going to be something for another day.

      Until I figure that out, I'll just run it with the cheap plastic mounting tabs it came with, which I'll note, that I am quite surprised with their strength thus far.

      We'll see......





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      03-19-2013 09:28 PM #73
      I don't know how I missed this thread for so long. This is amazing. Keep up the good work OP. I've wanted a Datsun S30 for a long time now and you're not helping.

      It's gorgeous.

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      03-20-2013 10:34 AM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by EnIgMa '06 View Post
      I don't know how I missed this thread for so long. This is amazing. Keep up the good work OP. I've wanted a Datsun S30 for a long time now and you're not helping.

      It's gorgeous.
      this.

      why did you have to make me read this Andy. now i want one too.

      the attention to detail on this build is and the pics your giving us are great.

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      03-20-2013 10:39 AM #75
      Looks like the fan will barely fit. Have you looked into installing it in front of the rad and making the fan a pusher instead of a puller?
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