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    Thread: What's new for the 2014 GLI Autobahn.

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      02-19-2013 01:44 PM #1
      I want a new GLI Autobahn w/ Nav, but I won't be able to afford one until the end of this year or beginning of 2014.

      Does anyone know what is going to be updated on the GLI for 2014? Any cosmetic changes? When will it be released? I'm guessing September.

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      02-19-2013 01:50 PM #2
      Updated 2.0t and LED taillights are all we know so far.

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      02-19-2013 01:52 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI4TJ View Post
      Updated 2.0t and LED taillights are all we know so far.
      Beat me to it... I wouldn't expect much more than those though. Maybe a few creature comforts on the interior but I doubt anything big.
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      02-19-2013 02:40 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI4TJ View Post
      Updated 2.0t and LED taillights are all we know so far.
      Awesome- the LED tail lights may be reason enough to wait.
      Do you know what might be updated on the engine? More hp?

      The only issue I see with LED lights though is that if one goes out, it kills the look, and since there are so many of them, having to replace it seems like it could be a pain. How often do they burn out?
      Last edited by vroomstick; 02-19-2013 at 02:42 PM.

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      02-19-2013 03:03 PM #5
      Its a mostly new engine. Fuel economy engine response, power band and hp have all been improved.

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      02-19-2013 03:08 PM #6
      Dissapointment, thats what
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      02-19-2013 03:18 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      The only issue I see with LED lights though is that if one goes out, it kills the look, and since there are so many of them, having to replace it seems like it could be a pain. How often do they burn out?
      I think LED's aren't supposed to burn out. that's why they're so darn expensive.
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      02-19-2013 03:20 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by einsteinjs View Post
      I think LED's aren't supposed to burn out. that's why they're so darn expensive.
      Many LED components have a MTBF of 50k+ hours.

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      02-19-2013 03:37 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by crispy21 View Post
      Dissapointment, thats what
      great input.

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      02-19-2013 04:02 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by einsteinjs View Post
      I think LED's aren't supposed to burn out. that's why they're so darn expensive.
      LEDs themselves aren't expensive at all, it's probably just the new manufacturing process that makes the unit more expensive. Either that or they just charge you more because it sounds cooler. I'd like them, but not for $800 or whatever they're going for

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      02-19-2013 04:44 PM #11
      I think the stock ground effects valances on the autobahn are sweet looking.
      I am looking at the black on black. Looks very clean.

      How do you owners of the autobahn like the Fender audio system? I have the Monsoon in the GTI and it is a great stereo. It is 8 speakers, though, the the Fender is 12 with a subwoofer. Seems like a really nice set up.

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      02-19-2013 04:55 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      I think the stock ground effects valances on the autobahn are sweet looking.
      I am looking at the black on black. Looks very clean.

      How do you owners of the autobahn like the Fender audio system? I have the Monsoon in the GTI and it is a great stereo. It is 8 speakers, though, the the Fender is 12 with a subwoofer. Seems like a really nice set up.
      Pretty sure the Fender in my car is 8 speakers plus woofer if I'm not mistaken.

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      02-19-2013 05:12 PM #13
      Does this car have fog lights? Can't find that anywhere on the vw site.

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      02-19-2013 05:16 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by kDubya_SE View Post
      Many LED components have a MTBF of 50k+ hours.
      That's true, but the downside to that.. within 50k hours of operation.. (But say there are 20 individual LEDs in the set of lights, thats only 2,500 hours of operation before one will fail on average.)

      Now, 2,500 hours.. that's a nearly a year of 8 hours of on time per day. You're far more likely to only have them on an hour or two a day, which means more like 8 years on average before one fails. And that's all assuming that we're talking about only 50k hours MTBF.. for things like the DRLs that are on a LOT, I'd hope they went even higher.

      These are all averages. There WILL be someone who has one fail after a month. But that's what warranties are for. But the key item is that MTBF is calculated among the 'cumulative' run time of the entire population. So if there are 50,000 LEDs of that type on non-stop, on average one will fail per hour.

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      02-19-2013 06:04 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post

      How do you owners of the autobahn like the Fender audio system?
      Meh, its okay. I like the sound quality, but the sub sucks.
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      02-19-2013 09:09 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Coolicarboy View Post
      Meh, its okay. I like the sound quality, but the sub sucks.
      its not worth it, and yeah the sub sucks

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      02-19-2013 09:12 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      Does this car have fog lights? Can't find that anywhere on the vw site.
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      02-19-2013 11:42 PM #18
      Everyone mentions the LED tails. When I did a ride and drive of the new Hybrid Jetta before it was released, I watched the car in front of me right brake light go out. Don't know if these were preproduction models or what, but that killed it for me. They look good, but for once I'm perfectly content with the standard GLI tails.

      Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't complain if I got a set for free ya know. Just my .02
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    19. 02-19-2013 11:52 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by araemo View Post
      That's true, but the downside to that.. within 50k hours of operation.. (But say there are 20 individual LEDs in the set of lights, thats only 2,500 hours of operation before one will fail on average.)

      Now, 2,500 hours.. that's a nearly a year of 8 hours of on time per day. You're far more likely to only have them on an hour or two a day, which means more like 8 years on average before one fails. And that's all assuming that we're talking about only 50k hours MTBF.. for things like the DRLs that are on a LOT, I'd hope they went even higher.

      These are all averages. There WILL be someone who has one fail after a month. But that's what warranties are for. But the key item is that MTBF is calculated among the 'cumulative' run time of the entire population. So if there are 50,000 LEDs of that type on non-stop, on average one will fail per hour.
      the MTBF applies to each individual led, not to the unit as a whole per led. Therefore on average the entire taillight will last 50000 hours. Dividing the 50k by the amount of led's is not a correct calculation.

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      02-19-2013 11:53 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by araemo View Post
      That's true, but the downside to that.. within 50k hours of operation.. (But say there are 20 individual LEDs in the set of lights, thats only 2,500 hours of operation before one will fail on average.)

      Now, 2,500 hours.. that's a nearly a year of 8 hours of on time per day. You're far more likely to only have them on an hour or two a day, which means more like 8 years on average before one fails. And that's all assuming that we're talking about only 50k hours MTBF.. for things like the DRLs that are on a LOT, I'd hope they went even higher.

      These are all averages. There WILL be someone who has one fail after a month. But that's what warranties are for. But the key item is that MTBF is calculated among the 'cumulative' run time of the entire population. So if there are 50,000 LEDs of that type on non-stop, on average one will fail per hour.
      LoL. mathematician over here... good job.

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      02-19-2013 11:57 PM #21
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      My god, the jetta forums are so f-ing stupid and pointless. Its like 90% of the people on here wake up and eat a bowl of stupid everyday and then wonder what crap they can plastidip or what to buy on ebay.

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      02-20-2013 01:52 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Coolicarboy View Post
      Meh, its okay. I like the sound quality, but the sub sucks.
      better than the Monsoon?

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      02-20-2013 12:41 PM #23
      I went from the Monsoon to the Fender on my '13 and would say that overall, the Fender is an improvement. I'm sure going from a 9 year old to a brand new stereo also doesn't hurt.

      I believe the 2014 gets 10 add'l HP as well.

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      02-20-2013 01:30 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      I think the stock ground effects valances on the autobahn are sweet looking.
      I am looking at the black on black. Looks very clean.

      How do you owners of the autobahn like the Fender audio system? I have the Monsoon in the GTI and it is a great stereo. It is 8 speakers, though, the the Fender is 12 with a subwoofer. Seems like a really nice set up.
      I have 10 speakers and sub from fender in my AB. It sounds great and great quality
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      02-20-2013 01:46 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by hanson2713 View Post
      the MTBF applies to each individual led, not to the unit as a whole per led. Therefore on average the entire taillight will last 50000 hours. Dividing the 50k by the amount of led's is not a correct calculation.
      No, MTBF reported by manufacturers is almost always a 'population' statistic. so, technically, that 50k hours is divided by all the units in circulation that cumulatively get 50k hours of operation... each time that happens, on average, one unit will fail. (the other important item to remember is this is 'average' time between failures, so you could have 3 fail in weeks or months, but the replacements last for 20 years, there's no way to predict the lifespan of an individual unit)

      See http://enterprise.media.seagate.com/...ecs-explained/ for one example.. but it's a general industry practice, as far as I'm aware. That's why some industries can claim ridiculously high MTBFs like 1 million hours.. (over 100 years of continuous operation), because that # isn't expected to apply to a single unit, it's averaged among all units in operation.

      The question that isn't answered is.. is the 50k number 'per LED' or 'per LED headlight assembly'?
      Last edited by araemo; 02-20-2013 at 01:51 PM.

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      02-20-2013 02:00 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Tomekmrowa View Post
      I have 10 speakers and sub from fender in my AB. It sounds great and great quality
      Pretty sure it's 8 speakers and sub.

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      02-20-2013 03:07 PM #28


      Seems like it will be a pain to change out LEDs.. if taking off the housing on my GTI or changing headlamps is any indication.
      Last edited by vroomstick; 02-20-2013 at 03:16 PM.

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      02-20-2013 07:01 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Tomekmrowa View Post
      I have 10 speakers and sub from fender in my AB. It sounds great and great quality


      Are you counting the 2 speaker-looking pods in the sunroof control unit above your head? If so, those aren't actually speakers, they just look like them. In fact, my dealer told me they were but when I opened the unit to replace the map bulbs I discovered that they are just plastic plates that cover up a couple screws.

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      02-20-2013 07:22 PM #30
      Interesting article from popular mechanics about the Fender system:

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ta-gli#slide-3

      "the new standard for entry-level automotive audio, easily surpassing the Dynaudio premium systems VW traditionally offers."

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      02-20-2013 08:09 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      Interesting article from popular mechanics about the Fender system:

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ta-gli#slide-3

      "the new standard for entry-level automotive audio, easily surpassing the Dynaudio premium systems VW traditionally offers."
      This is BS. Fender sound is nothing as what its cracked up to be. Not premium at all.

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      02-20-2013 08:55 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Rift485 View Post
      Are you counting the 2 speaker-looking pods in the sunroof control unit above your head? If so, those aren't actually speakers, they just look like them. In fact, my dealer told me they were but when I opened the unit to replace the map bulbs I discovered that they are just plastic plates that cover up a couple screws.

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      One is a fake, the other is the bluetooth receiver mic.

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      02-20-2013 08:59 PM #33
      Never thought I would see so much hate for LED's. This place is bass ackwards.

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      02-20-2013 10:35 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI525 View Post
      Never thought I would see so much hate for LED's. This place is bass ackwards.
      just trying to tell themselves they suck because they dont have em

      led tails are awesome

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      02-20-2013 11:29 PM #35
      2013.5 GLI is already listed on VW's site with the only change so far is LED tail lights. Same motor. 2014 should have the new 2.0T

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