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    Thread: What's new for the 2014 GLI Autobahn.

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      02-20-2013 01:46 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by hanson2713 View Post
      the MTBF applies to each individual led, not to the unit as a whole per led. Therefore on average the entire taillight will last 50000 hours. Dividing the 50k by the amount of led's is not a correct calculation.
      No, MTBF reported by manufacturers is almost always a 'population' statistic. so, technically, that 50k hours is divided by all the units in circulation that cumulatively get 50k hours of operation... each time that happens, on average, one unit will fail. (the other important item to remember is this is 'average' time between failures, so you could have 3 fail in weeks or months, but the replacements last for 20 years, there's no way to predict the lifespan of an individual unit)

      See http://enterprise.media.seagate.com/...ecs-explained/ for one example.. but it's a general industry practice, as far as I'm aware. That's why some industries can claim ridiculously high MTBFs like 1 million hours.. (over 100 years of continuous operation), because that # isn't expected to apply to a single unit, it's averaged among all units in operation.

      The question that isn't answered is.. is the 50k number 'per LED' or 'per LED headlight assembly'?
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      02-20-2013 02:00 PM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by Tomekmrowa View Post
      I have 10 speakers and sub from fender in my AB. It sounds great and great quality
      Pretty sure it's 8 speakers and sub.

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      02-20-2013 03:07 PM #28


      Seems like it will be a pain to change out LEDs.. if taking off the housing on my GTI or changing headlamps is any indication.
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      02-20-2013 07:01 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Tomekmrowa View Post
      I have 10 speakers and sub from fender in my AB. It sounds great and great quality


      Are you counting the 2 speaker-looking pods in the sunroof control unit above your head? If so, those aren't actually speakers, they just look like them. In fact, my dealer told me they were but when I opened the unit to replace the map bulbs I discovered that they are just plastic plates that cover up a couple screws.

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      02-20-2013 07:22 PM #30
      Interesting article from popular mechanics about the Fender system:

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ta-gli#slide-3

      "the new standard for entry-level automotive audio, easily surpassing the Dynaudio premium systems VW traditionally offers."

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      02-20-2013 08:09 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by vroomstick View Post
      Interesting article from popular mechanics about the Fender system:

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ta-gli#slide-3

      "the new standard for entry-level automotive audio, easily surpassing the Dynaudio premium systems VW traditionally offers."
      This is BS. Fender sound is nothing as what its cracked up to be. Not premium at all.

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      02-20-2013 08:55 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by Rift485 View Post
      Are you counting the 2 speaker-looking pods in the sunroof control unit above your head? If so, those aren't actually speakers, they just look like them. In fact, my dealer told me they were but when I opened the unit to replace the map bulbs I discovered that they are just plastic plates that cover up a couple screws.

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      One is a fake, the other is the bluetooth receiver mic.

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      02-20-2013 08:59 PM #33
      Never thought I would see so much hate for LED's. This place is bass ackwards.

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      02-20-2013 10:35 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI525 View Post
      Never thought I would see so much hate for LED's. This place is bass ackwards.
      just trying to tell themselves they suck because they dont have em

      led tails are awesome

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      02-20-2013 11:29 PM #35
      2013.5 GLI is already listed on VW's site with the only change so far is LED tail lights. Same motor. 2014 should have the new 2.0T

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      02-20-2013 11:42 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by HD9280 View Post
      One is a fake, the other is the bluetooth receiver mic.



      I was told the microphone is in the little red lights in the same unit. really didn't see anything underneath those speaker looking covers

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      02-21-2013 08:12 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by VeeDubbinU View Post
      2013.5 GLI is already listed on VW's site with the only change so far is LED tail lights. Same motor. 2014 should have the new 2.0T
      Thats just a typo that has been there since the 2013 arrived. It has always said LED taillights but my 2013 nav model doesn't have them.

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      02-21-2013 08:34 AM #38
      All this talk about LED tails. However, yes LED tail lights are nice but vw is not making them smoked like proper GLI's are supposed to have so I like my smoked ones.
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      02-21-2013 08:36 AM #39
      Quote Originally Posted by Cookiepuss01 View Post
      All this talk about LED tails. However, yes LED tail lights are nice but vw is not making them smoked like proper GLI's are supposed to have so I like my smoked ones.
      We are not sure if the GLI will get smoked LED's or not. The Jetta hybrid has non smoked but the GLI may not get those taillights.

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      02-21-2013 09:34 AM #40
      ah the never ending update cycle.

      1st model year = Grab one and be exclusive
      2nd/3rd model year = Get the minor updates (HID, LED, power)

      Then comes a new model with new sheetmetal and your slightly updated car is now an outmode.

      So it's pretty much buyers choice which category they wanna fall into.

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      02-22-2013 01:33 AM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by clutchrider View Post
      ah the never ending update cycle.

      1st model year = Grab one and be exclusive
      2nd/3rd model year = Get the minor updates (HID, LED, power)

      Then comes a new model with new sheetmetal and your slightly updated car is now an outmode.

      So it's pretty much buyers choice which category they wanna fall into.
      You didn't include "with the kinks and malfunctions worked out" from the later model years.

      So when is mk7 coming out?

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      02-22-2013 02:28 AM #42
      Quote Originally Posted by Rift485 View Post
      I was told the microphone is in the little red lights in the same unit. really didn't see anything underneath those speaker looking covers
      No.. LoL.

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      02-22-2013 04:23 AM #43
      This has probably been answered somewhere but I've obviously missed it.

      Why is it that the MKVI is getting so many years of the GLI?
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      Quote Originally Posted by DCJodon View Post
      My crayons smell like MK4s, please help.

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      02-22-2013 08:29 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by werdnakills View Post
      This has probably been answered somewhere but I've obviously missed it.

      Why is it that the MKVI is getting so many years of the GLI?
      Because Jetta and Golf no longer use the same platform and also the GLI just came out in 2012 and the GTI came out in 2010.

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      02-22-2013 03:59 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by GLI4TJ View Post
      Because Jetta and Golf no longer use the same platform and also the GLI just came out in 2012 and the GTI came out in 2010.
      That doesn't answer my question.. I'm asking why the MKIV got 2 GLI's the MKV got 1 and the MKVI is getting 3?
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      Quote Originally Posted by DCJodon View Post
      My crayons smell like MK4s, please help.

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      02-23-2013 01:11 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by werdnakills View Post
      That doesn't answer my question.. I'm asking why the MKIV got 2 GLI's the MKV got 1 and the MKVI is getting 3?
      I will guess and say because the mk4 had an engine change the mk5 didnt and the mk6 did along with other changes to keep the car up to date. Again just a guess.

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      02-23-2013 02:06 PM #47
      The 2012 and the 2013 have the same engine do they not?
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      Quote Originally Posted by DCJodon View Post
      My crayons smell like MK4s, please help.

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      02-23-2013 02:09 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by werdnakills View Post
      That doesn't answer my question.. I'm asking why the MKIV got 2 GLI's the MKV got 1 and the MKVI is getting 3?
      What EXACTLY is your question?

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      02-23-2013 02:26 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by werdnakills View Post
      That doesn't answer my question.. I'm asking why the MKIV got 2 GLI's the MKV got 1 and the MKVI is getting 3?
      You should figure out how to ask a question, because your first question made very little sense.

      Have you read what you wrote? How does number of years equate with what apparently is supposed to mean number of trim levels?

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      02-23-2013 03:22 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      You should figure out how to ask a question, because your first question made very little sense.

      Have you read what you wrote? How does number of years equate with what apparently is supposed to mean number of trim levels?
      Seriously? It's a simple question. Why is the MKVI getting 3 years in a row of the GLI where as other generations did not.

      I made no mention of "number of trim levels" I'm talking about the GLI. ONE trim level.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DCJodon View Post
      My crayons smell like MK4s, please help.

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