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    Thread: EFOTD: '75 Pontiac Astre Lil' Wide Track

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      02-26-2013 07:18 PM #1
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...#ht_500wt_1182





      Around 3000 made, but only 2 known to exist.
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      02-26-2013 07:23 PM #2
      3 too many?
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      02-26-2013 07:24 PM #3
      No, that shouldn't be a question. It should be a statement.

      3 too many.
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      02-26-2013 07:25 PM #4
      Stealth edit, that last one was one in an old picture. And no, not 2 too many
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      02-26-2013 07:25 PM #5
      I had one for a week back in the 80's... total junk.

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      02-26-2013 07:25 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by 3Letter View Post
      I had one for a week back in the 80's... total junk.
      Any photos of it? An actual LWT?
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      02-26-2013 07:40 PM #7
      There was a Pontiac version of the Vega in the US?!

      It's not possible for this car to have no rust when they (Vega's, at least) rusted on dealer lots before they were sold.
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      02-26-2013 07:43 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      There was a Pontiac version of the Vega in the US?!

      It's not possible for this car to have no rust when they (Vega's, at least) rusted on dealer lots before they were sold.
      Yes there was. The Astre began in 1973 in Canada and 1975 in the US. Unfortunately, you are correct about these cars having rust problems.
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      02-26-2013 07:55 PM #9
      It won't let me copy the image link... but that rev counter looks like it's out of a 1990's Volvo... what's the deal. Definitely doesn't look very 70's GM.

      What is the deal with these cars? Why so few produced... why does it seem more modern then it should be. 1975 with a SOHC 2.3L 4 cylinder?.... from General Motors?? Attractive woodgrain dash with modern looking gauges... The styling is almost good looking... like a mini Camaro/TransAm.

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      02-26-2013 08:00 PM #10
      Sorry no pics and it wasn't the LWT.
      Mine was a 1977 with the "Iron Puke" 4cyl and 4spd manual. I called it the Gorbie, because the paint peeling on the roof looked like Gorbachev's birthmark.
      I actually liked the styling of the Vega/Astre and loved the low seating position. I bought the car for $100 in 1988, I smoke the clutch and it wasn't worth my time or money to fix it so I sold it for $120.

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      02-26-2013 08:05 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Live-Wire View Post
      What is the deal with these cars? Why so few produced...
      The were terrible terrible cars that rusted away and blew head gaskets/warped heads as if they were designed to do it.

      the general thought/excuse is that they were rushed to production to combat the Pinto and the fuel crisis, but they were junk.
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      02-26-2013 08:10 PM #12
      Those 4-cylinders were by far one of the worst engines ever produced. If I remember correctly, it was GM's first aluminum block, but the pistons were steel, so when it warmed up, the aluminum would expand far faster than the steel, the engine would lose compression and burn oil like crazy.

      ...anyway, that's what my coworker tells me, who's owned a Vega with that exact 2.3
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      02-26-2013 08:10 PM #13
      Looks like a sweet alternative to a Cobra II.

      Unfortunately the engines suffered from very forward thinking with poor execution. Non-sleeved aluminum blocks with iron heads, I believe.

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      02-26-2013 08:22 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by 200HP4dr View Post
      Looks like a sweet alternative to a Cobra II.

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      02-26-2013 08:23 PM #15
      These cars do make good drag racing cars, but now stock ones are scarce
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      "And remember this is a Pontiac." Lest ye suspect it may be a Chevy in disguise.

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      02-26-2013 09:15 PM #18
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      02-26-2013 10:32 PM #19
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      02-26-2013 10:40 PM #20
      Horrible, horrible cars.

      The only one possibly worth considering is a Cosworth Vega. But even then...eh.

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      02-26-2013 10:50 PM #21
      I'm sorry to disagree; but I like it. Sure, in todays world the Vega/Astre wasn't a very good car by any stretch of the imagination. I'll say one thing, however. I would love to take a car like this to a car show, because that is the type of car that people drove in the 70's. Something like this would get way more attention than a lot of other cars.

      The cool thing about old cars is that they are representative of their times and should never be compared to modern vehicles. They need to be seen as a window into history of what the automotive scene was like.

      The one for sale on e bay looks pretty nice.

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      02-26-2013 11:56 PM #23
      The first car my mother ever bought for herself was a Pontiac Astre Wagon.

      Anyway, that car is awesome. Excellent 70's graphics package, kind of cool looking, mesh wheels, and (most importantly for me) hated. I'm a sucker for an underdog.

      Put it in a museum or something.
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      02-27-2013 12:28 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by randyvr6 View Post
      I'm sorry to disagree; but I like it.

      ...

      The cool thing about old cars is that they are representative of their times and should never be compared to modern vehicles.

      Oh, they were junk in the 70s too.
      The good news: I gave up on being one of the cool kids!

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      02-27-2013 01:01 AM #25
      Was the track wider than the Vega I wonder

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