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    Thread: Speeding ticket! What am I looking at here? (Ohio)

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      03-19-2013 09:22 AM #1
      I got clocked doing 83 in a 55. It's a four lane highway, so it's kind of ridiculous that it is 55 mph, but nonetheless, I was speeding.... I was trying to get out of a scrum of traffic with a jerk who was tailgating me and I was trying to make some space between he and I when I saw the fine gentleman in blue parked off to the side.

      Since it was so much over, he told me I need to appear in court. I tried looking at the ohio dmv gov website and it really doesnt say much other than it will probably be two points. What about fines? Since I have to appear, do I have to pay court costs? I've no clue, as I have never had to do this before. What should I expect?

      Also, can I take a driving course to get the points off or no?
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      03-19-2013 09:25 AM #2
      which city?

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      03-19-2013 09:26 AM #3
      Cleveland.
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      03-19-2013 09:26 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaven View Post
      Cleveland.
      Black, barely marked car, or regular black and white?

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      03-19-2013 09:27 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by zukiphile View Post
      Black, barely marked car, or regular black and white?
      He was CPD. It was on the Shoreway (Rt 2) right after the East 9th exit before it hits 90.
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      03-19-2013 09:29 AM #6
      You will more than likely have to pay court costs and and for the ticket regardless of having to show up in court. I'd pay the extra $50-100? to hire a lawyer since its for going 25+over the speed limit.

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      03-19-2013 09:33 AM #7
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      He will know the answers, drives with little regard to traffic laws on a regular basis.

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      03-19-2013 09:35 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaven View Post
      He was CPD. It was on the Shoreway (Rt 2) right after the East 9th exit before it hits 90.
      CPD has some dedicated traffic people in black barely marked cars. One fellow, Nishnik, is known for ticketing cops.

      You didn't write that you were falsely cited for no belt, so I will assume this is a straight speed ticket. If you don't want to get counsel, you will plead "not guilty" then appear at arraignment. If you want to get this done quickly, your question for the prosecutor is something like "May I just pay whatever I need to pay and do something that is not moving violation?".

      At the other end of the spectrum, you can have the court schedule a trial date and appear. This is what I always do. In the city, police officers do not typically show to testify for speeding tickets. Without a witness at trial, the court should grant your oral motion to dismiss.

      Since you will not be represented by counsel, the people with attorneys will have their matters handled before yours. Expect this process to consume between two and five hours.

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      03-19-2013 09:36 AM #9
      i've had a 91 in a 65 out here in CT - hiring a lawyer for a traffic ticket (IMHO) is retarded. Just go in and man up. Tell them yeah i was speeding, pay the fine, take the points and move on. Don't get caught for a few years and you'll be good. Mine was $100 after negotiating with the prosecutor...initial fine was $153 so ya i'm a d-bag but hey it worked
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      03-19-2013 09:49 AM #10
      I am willing to pay it.... just hoping for the least about possible. Under $200 all in would be reasonable, IMO. I also would like to not have points on my license.

      I can get a friend to come with me as legal representation, though I am really not interested in fighting a ticket that I deserved. I just want it to not be too expensive. Going back twice and hoping the officer doesnt show up is probably not worth it.
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      03-19-2013 09:53 AM #11
      If its your first traffic offense and you're under the age of 18 you can take the driving class to remove the points and ticket permanently from your record. I did that when Cuyahoga falls ohios finest gave me a ticket for making a right turn at a no turn on red.
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      03-19-2013 09:59 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by MN6845 View Post
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      He will know the answers, drives with little regard to traffic laws on a regular basis.


      It's Cleveland Municipal Court ... you didn't murder anyone, so just show up, look apologetic in front of the prosecutor and see what he offers you ... it's just speeding and you didn't get reckless op, so it's going to be expensive, but you're not going to go to jail or anything.

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      03-19-2013 10:00 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaven View Post
      I am willing to pay it.... just hoping for the least about possible. Under $200 all in would be reasonable, IMO. I also would like to not have points on my license.
      For 28 mph over the limit? Dream on.

      I don't know if Ohio has a way for you to take a class to get the points waived. I'd ask. They hear a sob story from everybody about not being able to afford the fine and fees. You'd better think of a good one or it will fall on deaf ears. Dress like you're going to church. Be humble and respectful. Look everybody in the eye. Keep your hands out of your pockets. If it's your first offense, they might be lenient.

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      03-19-2013 10:03 AM #14
      I wouldn't get a lawyer. I'd just dress nicely, show up early, and just sit with the prosecutor and tell them you were looking to see if you could make a donation or other arrangement (traffic school). Do not say you want something reduced or removed, just offer to do one of those items and then sit there, shutup, and wait. They will look over the report and then decide what to do. You either catch them on a good day or a bad day and most of the time so long as your record is clean they will reduce it and make you pay a lesser fee for a reduced infraction or something. Also bring your debit card or checkbook as you will have to pay right there when they send you on your way.

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      03-19-2013 10:04 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post


      It's Cleveland Municipal Court ... you didn't murder anyone, so just show up, look apologetic in front of the prosecutor and see what he offers you ... it's just speeding and you didn't get reckless op, so it's going to be expensive, but you're not going to go to jail or anything.
      What's 'expensive?' I mean, the speed cameras around town are $100+ tickets... so is this going to suck?

      Is over 80 automatically 'reckless op' or would it say on the ticket? It appears to be a straight up speeding ticket with nothing else mentioned on it. Seatbelt was on, and just mentioned road and traffic conditions, which were fine.

      I realize I won't go to jail, but I was not sure if I should take representation with me or if I can get it reduced myself.
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    16. 03-19-2013 10:05 AM #16
      you all pay under 150 for 25+ over? Here 20 over=car impounded and a reckless driving ticket... I got a ticket for 21 over cop wrote it down to 20 to save my car and it was 368 bucks.

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      03-19-2013 10:08 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaven View Post
      What's 'expensive?' I mean, the speed cameras around town are $100+ tickets... so is this going to suck?

      Is over 80 automatically 'reckless op' or would it say on the ticket? It appears to be a straight up speeding ticket with nothing else mentioned on it. Seatbelt was on, and just mentioned road and traffic conditions, which were fine.

      I realize I won't go to jail, but I was not sure if I should take representation with me or if I can get it reduced myself.
      Probably going to be $200-250 ... can't imagine court costs are going to be too much in Cleveland ...

      No, it's just a speeding ticket. Reckless op would be ORC 4511.20 or ORD 433.02.

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      03-19-2013 10:08 AM #18
      I'm female, professionally dressed on most days, and in my 30's. First offense.
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      03-19-2013 10:09 AM #19
      Hi, I had nearly the same ticket twice in my driving career. First was 25 over and cost me $258 and 2 points. Second was 30 over and cost me $390 and 4 points. Your fines will probably fall somewhere between those, and you'll get 2 points. Unless you make a deal with the prosecutor.

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      03-19-2013 10:09 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by seadoo2006 View Post
      Probably going to be $200-250 ... can't imagine court costs are going to be too much in Cleveland ...

      No, it's just a speeding ticket. Reckless op would be ORC 4511.20 or ORD 433.02.
      crap. It's marked ORD 433.03.
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      03-19-2013 10:11 AM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by ModernMaven View Post
      crap. It's marked ORD 433.03.
      Edit: i dont think 43303 is reckless op.
      Last edited by GoHomePossum; 03-19-2013 at 10:20 AM.
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      03-19-2013 10:17 AM #22
      WRX foot got you huh?

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      03-19-2013 10:17 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by GeoffD View Post
      For 28 mph over the limit? Dream on.

      I don't know if Ohio has a way for you to take a class to get the points waived. I'd ask. They hear a sob story from everybody about not being able to afford the fine and fees. You'd better think of a good one or it will fall on deaf ears. Dress like you're going to church. Be humble and respectful. Look everybody in the eye. Keep your hands out of your pockets. If it's your first offense, they might be lenient.
      Do they not have deferred disposition (speeding ticket probation) over there? Here you can do it for tickets that are 31 MPH over or less http://www.arlingtontx.gov/municipalcourt/deferred.html
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      03-19-2013 10:18 AM #24
      Actually 433.03 does not appear to be reckless op, just speeding, so you will probably get a $200+ fine and 2 pts.
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      03-19-2013 10:18 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by FlashRedGLS1.8T View Post
      WRX foot got you huh?
      I was in my Audi. Can't even blame it on a new car!
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