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    Thread: 2007 VW Rabbit: Brake lights stuck on, Cruise Control doesn't work

    1. Junior Member
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      04-10-2013 08:33 PM #1
      I recently followed various Vortex DIYs for the installation of the following (with coding used):


      Since I completed the install and VAGCOM'ed, I have had the following symptoms:
      • EPC light on
      • Bulb out light on
      • Cruise Control doesn't work
      • Brake lights (including high stop) illuminated as long as key is at the accessory position or beyond


      One wiring mistake I made in wiring the rear fog:
      I temporarily installed the grey wire from B12 to C4 instead of C12 to B4 in my wiring change for the rear fog. I realized a day later so I drove a couple times like this. Don't know what B12 does, but that could be something. Anyone?


      Rear lights function as normal now as long as key is removed - including (no brake lights when car is off,) marker/parking illuminate, amber hazards blink, reverse illuminates, rear fog illuminates.

      Rear lights function almost normal when car is on or in acc - marker/parking illuminate, amber turn signals and hazards blink, reverse illuminates, rear fog illuminates, however the brake lights are always on.



      Here is post install VCDS scan:

      Friday,05,April,2013,19:34:11:52052
      VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5 (x64)
      Data version: 20121222



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      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


      Chassis Type: 1K0
      Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

      VIN: WVWAR71K47W177130 Mileage: 106960km/66461miles

      00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
      01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
      08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
      09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
      15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
      46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
      56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
      Part No SW: 07K 906 032 T HW: 07K 906 032 Q
      Component: 2.5l R5/4V G 9653
      Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8020009
      Coding: 0000001
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 3A55E1337594CDC82F8

      5 Faults Found:
      006481 - Radiator Fan 2 (V177)
      P1951 - 002 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100010
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 254
      Mileage: 97912 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 22:00:01

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 1243 /min
      Load: 45.9 %
      Speed: 37.0 km/h
      Temperature: 86.0∞C
      Temperature: 51.0∞C
      Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
      Voltage: 14.097 V

      001152 - Coolant Fan Control Circuit 1
      P0480 - 004 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100100
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 254
      Mileage: 97912 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 23:01:20

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 833 /min
      Load: 19.6 %
      Speed: 12.0 km/h
      Temperature: 79.0∞C
      Temperature: 40.0∞C
      Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
      Voltage: 13.970 V

      006480 - Radiator Fan (V7)
      P1950 - 002 - Movement Restricted / Jammed - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100010
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 211
      Mileage: 98109 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 09:53:31

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 1876 /min
      Load: 23.9 %
      Speed: 56.0 km/h
      Temperature: 85.0∞C
      Temperature: 49.0∞C
      Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
      Voltage: 13.970 V

      000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
      P0300 - 008 - - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101000
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Mileage: 105641 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 04:52:31

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 878 /min
      Load: 36.1 %
      Speed: 0.0 km/h
      Temperature: 15.0∞C
      Temperature: 17.0∞C
      Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
      Voltage: 14.224 V

      000772 - Cylinder 4
      P0304 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101000
      Fault Priority: 0
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Mileage: 105641 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 04:53:29

      Freeze Frame:
      RPM: 844 /min
      Load: 29.4 %
      Speed: 1.0 km/h
      Temperature: 25.0∞C
      Temperature: 17.0∞C
      Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
      Voltage: 14.224 V

      Readiness: 0000 0000

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
      Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105
      Coding: 0017025
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 3FA390276EB6E8E0186

      No fault code found.

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      Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
      Part No: 1K0 820 047 FP
      Component: Climatic PQ35 120 0606
      Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
      VCID: 77D33807060610A0106

      No fault code found.

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      Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
      Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AA HW: 3C0 937 049 AA
      Component: Bordnetz-SG H45 1402
      Revision: 00H45000 Serial number: 00000002292445
      Coding: 018D0F2700041500470A00000F000000000955035C0001
      Shop #: WSC 08277 444 57840
      VCID: 68F16B7B5BB88F5889C

      Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
      Component: Wischer 050107 020 0501
      Coding: 00038805
      Shop #: WSC 08277

      10 Faults Found:
      00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 103
      Mileage: 106966 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 14.05 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      00985 - Right Tail Light (M2)
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 103
      Mileage: 106966 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 14.05 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      00906 - Horn (H1)
      009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101001
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 0 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 5.00 V
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      00924 - Relay for Headlamp Cleaning System (J39)
      009 - Open or Short to Ground
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101001
      Fault Priority: 4
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 103
      Mileage: 0 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 5.00 V
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      01800 - Light Switch (E1)
      008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101000
      Fault Priority: 3
      Fault Frequency: 5
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 0 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 5.00 V
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      02071 - Local Databus
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 0 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 5.00 V
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      01049 - Supply Voltage Term 50
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101100
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 160702 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 12.00 V
      OFF
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF

      00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
      008 - Implausible Signal
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 01101000
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 103
      Mileage: 106966 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 12.10 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor; Driver Side (V216)
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 0 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      OFF
      Voltage: 5.00 V
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF

      00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
      007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100111
      Fault Priority: 1
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 160702 km
      Time Indication: 0

      Freeze Frame:
      ON
      Voltage: 11.75 V
      ON
      ON
      OFF
      OFF
      OFF


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
      Component: 5L AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
      Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D07TXFV
      Coding: 0013644
      Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
      VCID: 6CF9176B4F40A378ED4

      Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
      Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

      1 Fault Found:
      02513 - Belt Force Sensor for Seat Occupied Recognition (G453)
      003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

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      Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
      Component: Lenks‰ulenmodul 636 0070
      Coding: 0000022
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 76CD3503010C69A80B0

      1 Fault Found:
      00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 920 953 P HW: 1K0 920 953 P
      Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610
      Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8020009
      Coding: 0007407
      Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
      VCID: 3851FB3B4B98DFD8D9C

      1 Fault Found:
      01336 - Data Bus for Comfort System
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00100100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 106966 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 02:12:23


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
      Component: J533__Gateway H04 0021
      Revision: H04 02 Serial number: 210107F1001347
      Coding: 3D0F034007000000
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 2F43C067BED61860886

      1 Fault Found:
      00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00110100
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Reset counter: 142
      Mileage: 106966 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 02:12:24


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
      Part No SW: 1K0 920 953 P HW: 1K0 920 953 P
      Component: IMMO VDD 1610
      Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8020009
      Shop #: WSC 25038 444 92088
      VCID: 3851FB3B4B98DFD8D9C

      1 Fault Found:
      01176 - Key
      008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
      Freeze Frame:
      Fault Status: 00101000
      Fault Priority: 2
      Fault Frequency: 1
      Mileage: 97169 km
      Time Indication: 0
      Date: 2000.00.00
      Time: 12:51:33


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
      Component: Tuer-SG 005 0983
      Coding: 0001141
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 3851FB3B4B98DFD8D9C

      1 Fault Found:
      00120 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Driver Side
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
      Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
      Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806
      Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
      VCID: 3449CF0B57F03BB8F54

      No fault code found.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
      Part No: 1K0 959 433 CM
      Component: KSG 0401
      Coding: 93C80B483F09058F880A048050CC
      Shop #: WSC 25038 444 92088
      VCID: 7DDF2A2F243A3AF04AA

      Component: Sounder n.mounted

      Component: NGS n.mounted

      Component: IRUE n.mounted

      1 Fault Found:
      00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
      Component: Tuer-SG 005 0983
      Coding: 0001140
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 3957FE3F7092C6D0262

      1 Fault Found:
      00121 - Outside Warning Light/Door exit Light Passenger Side
      012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
      Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 B HW: 1K0 035 161 B
      Component: Radio DE2 014 0017
      Revision: 00014000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7F6198828
      Coding: 0040401
      Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
      VCID: 1E1D0DA3C97C81E8330

      3 Faults Found:
      00856 - Radio Antenna
      007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
      00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
      00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
      004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

      End ---------------------------------------------------------------------



      Checked Brake Light Switch fuses SB22 and SC13. Per google search thought it was a fault in the Brake Light Switch. Bought a new swtich and replaced it today. No change.

      With the battery disconnected for switch install the EPC light was reset but came on.


      Does anyone have any ideas? Am I missing something?
      Last edited by fraglpunk; 04-10-2013 at 08:40 PM.

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      04-11-2013 08:53 PM #2
      Rechecked wiring to recent installs and everything looks good.

      Any one know the possible causes for brake lights to be stuck on?

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      04-16-2013 03:49 PM #3
      Have been told this might have to do with switching to UK coding.
      Can any one confirm? Any info?

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      04-16-2013 05:00 PM #4
      The first possible cause that comes to my mind based upon your symptoms is an issue with the brake light switch (either switch defect or wiring problem/wiring disconnected).

      The cruise control doesn't work because its controller is getting a signal out of range from the brake light switch and therefore disables cruise control as a safety matter (since the brake light switch is one of the main things used to cancel cruise control while driving).

      EDIT: sorry, just now saw at the bottom of your post where you said you replaced the brake light switch already. Soooo I'm all out of ideas.
      Last edited by Bartnik; 04-16-2013 at 05:02 PM.

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      04-16-2013 05:10 PM #5
      Triple check your wiring at each Tail Light.
      Sounds like your Tail Light is the BRAKE LIGHT and the Brake Light is the Tail Light.
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      04-16-2013 07:02 PM #6
      Thanks Tim Birney. I have triple checked the rear wiring and it matches what I found in the DIY (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...D-Installation):

      LED Left (Driver's side):
      1. Black/white (turn signal)
      2. Black/red (brake light)
      3. New Wire (Parking light)
      4. Brown (common/return)


      LED Right (Passenger side):
      1. Brown (common/return)
      2. New Wire (Parking light)
      3. Black/purple (brake light)
      4. Black/green (turn signal)


      Also, rear LEDs seem to function as others have described:
      • Parking lights = both inner and outer circle
      • Brake lights = inner circle
      • Amber turns = outer circle


      Also the parking lights work normally when the car is completely off. Brake lights are only stuck on when car is in ACC or ON.

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      10-08-2014 12:15 AM #7
      ever found the fix for this?

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