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    1. Member bmxracerx's Avatar
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      02-18-2007 12:30 AM #211
      This is great info but is it still current? This post was from 02.

      I'm just trying to get a feel for if I change my H&R Sport's out for the Neuspeed Sport's, will the ride be the same? I love the H&R's but hate the rake. 1.5 F-1.4 R. The Neuspeed Sports are 1.5 F&R. BTW, I have Koni shocks.

      Quote, originally posted by darrenewest »
      MK IV VR6 Neuspeed Sport: 220(5) Front and 160 Rear
      MK IV VR6 H+R Sport are 228 Front and 160 Rear

      I did a Little research and a whole lot of E-mailing. RPI Said there's were almost identical too Neuspeed's, although 10lb stiffer rear. I Emailed Neuspeed and they emailed the rates back too me the same day. H+R's I got from Denon, and are almost identical too Neuspeed's because they (H+R) use to Manufacture for them, but no longer. Neuspeed used their rates and found another manufacture .... If not totally correct let me know and I'll edit them, though I'm 98% Sure. Happy hunting, The Shine's are PERFECTLY matched to Bilstein damper's valving from what I can gather. I need a life. - Darren


      For the comparison of the H&R Sport rears and the Neuspeed Sport rears, can someone verify is these are still correct?


      Modified by bmxracerx at 12:50 AM 2-18-2007

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      02-18-2007 02:42 PM #212
      bump for input

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      02-21-2007 01:26 PM #213
      anyone know the rates for the weitec TX coilovers rapid parts sells for the mk3 vr6?

    4. 02-21-2007 08:18 PM #214
      Quote, originally posted by bmxracerx »

      For the comparison of the H&R Sport rears and the Neuspeed Sport rears, can someone verify is these are still correct?


      I've never seen any hard data to contradict it, and pyce measured the H&R OE Sport to have a working front rate in the 210-220 range, so IMHO the rates are reasonable.


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      02-23-2007 12:21 AM #215
      Just read through the whole thread, but might have missed it. Anyone have the rates for the H&R RSS mk3 coilovers? Also, does anyone here have good experience with this kit?

    6. 03-29-2007 10:01 AM #216
      bump

      us mk5 gti, 133/189 f/r measured by shine


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      05-07-2007 04:30 AM #217
      hmm, did not see it in there...lots of info tho...pages
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      05-07-2007 11:42 AM #218
      I was looking for the spring rates on my Corrado VR6 H&R coilovers. It looks like they have.

      Fronts: 48 03 452-2/1 180lb springs
      Rears: 48 53 452-2/1 300lb springs

      here is a PDF if people want to know where I got the specs:
      http://www.h-r.com/katalog_download_de/VW.pdf



    9. 06-17-2007 04:41 PM #219
      Would be nice to know if Shine also measured theeuropean spec mk5 GTI springs !

    10. 08-01-2007 12:47 PM #220
      bump

    11. 08-24-2007 02:55 PM #221
      Anybody knows what the rates are for the Koni coilover springs?
      They have some documentation online but is in freaking german. Can anyone translate it?
      http://88.198.54.215/pdf/1150-5009-tuv.pdf
      It's at about the midle. Thanks a lot.
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      08-25-2007 05:09 PM #222
      don't think it says anything about rates just max loads
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    13. 08-25-2007 10:10 PM #223
      Quote, originally posted by ovlaicu »
      Anybody knows what the rates are for the Koni coilover springs?
      They have some documentation online but is in freaking german. Can anyone translate it?
      http://88.198.54.215/pdf/1150-5009-tuv.pdf
      It's at about the midle. Thanks a lot.

      Koni CO 1150-5048 (4-cyl MkIV)
      174lb/in Front
      214-236lb/in Rear (progressive)
      Koni CO 1150-5048-1 (VR6 MkIV)
      280lb/in Front
      214-236lb/in Rear (progressive)

      Number came from the beginning of this very thread


      Modified by wolfpuppy at 10:11 PM 8-25-2007


      Modified by wolfpuppy at 10:12 PM 8-25-2007


    14. 08-25-2007 11:27 PM #224
      Quote, originally posted by G60ING »
      I was looking for the spring rates on my Corrado VR6 H&R coilovers. It looks like they have.

      Fronts: 48 03 452-2/1 180lb springs
      Rears: 48 53 452-2/1 300lb springs

      here is a PDF if people want to know where I got the specs:
      http://www.h-r.com/katalog_download_de/VW.pdf


      The way H&R lists springs is "length-rate"

      The 180-070 in the front is the length of the spring in milimeters, 180 and the rate 070. The 300-050 for the rear is the spring lenght in milimeters, 300, and the rate 050.

      The rates are listed in newtons/mm of travel and can be converted to lbs/inch as follows, 1 newton / millimeter = 5.71014715 pounds force / inch.

      So 70N/mm = 399.7 lbf/in
      and 50N/mm = 285.5 lbf/in


    15. 08-31-2007 08:49 AM #225
      Anyone have rates for the GLI mk4 2004.5 springs?

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      09-11-2007 08:04 AM #226
      check the faq
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      09-12-2007 05:22 PM #227
      Quote, originally posted by briang »

      The way H&R lists springs is "length-rate"

      The 180-070 in the front is the length of the spring in milimeters, 180 and the rate 070. The 300-050 for the rear is the spring lenght in milimeters, 300, and the rate 050.

      The rates are listed in newtons/mm of travel and can be converted to lbs/inch as follows, 1 newton / millimeter = 5.71014715 pounds force / inch.

      So 70N/mm = 399.7 lbf/in
      and 50N/mm = 285.5 lbf/in

      Thanks you


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      09-23-2007 01:39 PM #228
      does any one know the nuespeed sport and race spring rates for a mrk3 vr6

      and did you guys have the same problem getting nuespeed rates as you did with H&R thanks.

      and are they progressive or linear


      Modified by Top-NouchVR6 at 7:16 PM 9-23-2007


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      11-20-2007 05:12 PM #229
      Manufacturer: V-Maxx Coilovers
      Vehicle: Mk3 VR6
      Spring Type: Linear
      FT Rate: Main 350, Tender 115
      RR Rate: Main 350, Tender 115

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      01-17-2008 09:35 PM #230
      Sorry to bring this back from the dead, and I didn't go through every page, but I thought that Eibach prokit springs were progressive, whereas on the first page it indicates that they're linear.

      Anyone?

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      01-28-2008 07:57 AM #231
      Car: 87 VW Cabriolet w/ 16v conv.
      Manufacture of springs: Ebach coilover springs
      Struts and shocks: Bielstien
      Coilovers: Ground control
      Swaybars: 22mm front, 25mm rear (aftermarket forgot brand "red")
      Spring rate front: 375lbs.
      Spring rate rear: 325lbs.

      Aftermarket wheels Borbet type E wheels with 195-40-16 hit the coilovers so I need wheel spacer for them, so temp. running my factory 13" rims, 175-70-13.

      Rides somewhat bouncy to me, just installed yesterday and its a daily driver. Handles very well, but I don't have much to compare it too.



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    22. 11-05-2008 05:59 PM #232
      Since I didn't see any off-the-shelf springs for A1's in these 7 pages, I made some phone calls....

      Neuspeed Sport Springs (55.10.01)
      Front = 140 - 200 lbs/in
      Rear = 120 - 150 lbs/in

      Neuspeed Race Springs (55.10.05) <--- No longer produced
      Front = 275 - 300 lbs/in
      Rear = 270 lbs/in

      H&R Sport Springs (54740)
      *Data not released*

      H&R Race Springs (54740-88)
      Front = 400 lbs/in
      Rear = 285 lbs/in


      Modified by DTDSasquatch at 6:06 PM 11-5-2008


    23. 11-09-2008 12:36 AM #233
      Megan Racing Lowering Springs Volkswagen Golf / Golf GTI 1999-2005

      Megan Racing Performance Lowering Spring Feature Summary:
      - Aggressive lowering height designed to provide a lowered racecar look
      - Lower profile for better handling performance
      - Minimal sagging
      - Lowering heights and spring rates matched specifically to each car
      - Made from SAE-9254 cold-wounded steel for better strength and durability.

      Reference: Megan Racing lowering spring, Megan Racing performance springs, Megan race springs

      Product Notes:
      FRONT REAR
      Spring Rate (lbs/inch) 350 250
      Max Lowering Height (inch) 1.75" 1.75"


    24. 09-13-2009 04:49 PM #234
      Hey man u seem to know your stuff really well. I was hoping you could help me w/a question. I have a 2000 GTI (1.8T) that i bought used, already dropped (not sure how much of a drop) on 225/40/18's. I need to get either shocks or both shocks & springs (i think the springs are still good) & i want stiffer than facory (not much room b/w tire & wheel well). What name & shock rate should i look for?

    25. 04-13-2010 02:22 PM #235
      vuu, what do you use for shocks? I am creating a SOLO car and was wondering about spring rate. Most coilovers use a 35-336 F and a 285-280 R spring rate. I thought this would be good with sufficient bar force and less compliant busings.

      The problem is with more force there is more wear...do you have addditional welds for the suspension supports...control arm, strut mount, rear bushing mounts...etc?


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      06-29-2010 07:49 AM #236
      Is trhere any way this could at least be subdivided by chassis? It's frustrating trying to wade through it in this format. I've got an A1 on H&R sports/Koni yellows and want something that will actually hold the back end up. Problem is I'm TRYING to find out the rate of what I HAVE. FRUSTRATING!!!!
      I cannot believe that there is no exhaustive listing of spring rates for our cars.

    27. 02-04-2011 01:03 AM #237
      does anyone have the rates for MK4 B&G RS2's??

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      05-16-2011 03:18 PM #238
      Quote Originally Posted by punchbug View Post
      Is trhere any way this could at least be subdivided by chassis? It's frustrating trying to wade through it in this format. I've got an A1 on H&R sports/Koni yellows and want something that will actually hold the back end up. Problem is I'm TRYING to find out the rate of what I HAVE. FRUSTRATING!!!!
      I cannot believe that there is no exhaustive listing of spring rates for our cars.
      It's not printed on your spring? That's weird.

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      11-20-2011 10:04 AM #239
      FK-powertech or silverline coilover main rates?? thanks
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      02-24-2012 07:19 PM #240
      Quote Originally Posted by darrenewest View Post
      MK IV VR6 Neuspeed Sport: 220(5) Front and 160 Rear
      MK IV VR6 H+R Sport are 228 Front and 160 Rear
      MK IV VR6 RPI Are 225 Front and 170 Rear
      MK IV VR6 Neuspeed Race 280 Front and 220 Rear
      MK IV H+R Race are the same as Neuspeed Race. +/- 5 pounds.
      MK IV Bilstein PSS9 Coilover 350 Front and 300 rear .... ouch ... (I have these)

      I did a Little research and a whole lot of E-mailing. RPI Said there's were almost identical too Neuspeed's, although 10lb stiffer rear. I Emailed Neuspeed and they emailed the rates back too me the same day. H+R's I got from Denon, and are almost identical too Neuspeed's because they (H+R) use to Manufacture for them, but no longer. Neuspeed used their rates and found another manufacture .... If not totally correct let me know and I'll edit them, though I'm 98% Sure. Happy hunting, The Shine's are PERFECTLY matched to Bilstein damper's valving from what I can gather. I need a life. - Darren

      I have the Neuspeeds and they are Progressive rate and you show a Linear number? One thing that is a concern is that just sitting the dead coils are laying on top of each other with no gap. I am assuming they work on rebound and as the spring come down? It just looks as if there is not much left in the range of motion.

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      02-24-2012 08:15 PM #241
      Quote Originally Posted by Arnolds64 View Post
      I have the Neuspeeds and they are Progressive rate and you show a Linear number? One thing that is a concern is that just sitting the dead coils are laying on top of each other with no gap. I am assuming they work on rebound and as the spring come down? It just looks as if there is not much left in the range of motion.
      That's like the konis then. Springs are binder together because of lack of travel from either ride height or design.

      It really means the initial range of progressive rates are not available.

      Harsh ride?

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      08-18-2012 10:24 PM #242
      Quote Originally Posted by 9VW23yrs View Post
      KW published front coil over spring rates
      Available rates, first number = rate in N/mm; second number =spring length in mm.

      50-170 =285 lb/inch
      60-170 =342 lb/inch
      70-170 =400 lb/inch these are the ones mine came with for 4cyl mk4 G/J
      80-170 =457 lb/inch
      90-170 =514 lb inch
      100-170 =571 lb/inch
      110-170 =628 lb/inch
      120-170 =685 lb/inch

      What spring number (xx-170)do the ones for the 6cyl mk4 have ?

      I currently have the 80-170 springs on my KW V2's on my diesel, very stiff. Going to put the 350 lb/in springs from my Racelands in this weekend to see if it rides smoother
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      08-20-2012 04:13 PM #243
      Since this is alive again.

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    34. 04-20-2013 03:28 PM #244
      Not sure this is really the place for it, but it took me more than 6 hrs to find the right springs for my golf. So if i can save someone else the ball ache thats good for me.

      I have a golf 4, uk spec, 02, PD150, with full GTi level susp as standard.

      this runs the

      1j0 411 105 ce on the front
      (2 blue 3 white, 2B 3W)

      GSF stock an after market at 1/3 of the cost of VW, its a Kilen spring (made by GKN), Pt# 25076

      same spring as the 2.8 V6 4M

      hope this helps someone in cyber land

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      Spring rates for Koni coilovers PN 1150-5080 (MK6 GTi)?

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