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    Thread: Autocar: mk7 Golf GTI Performance Ed vs Ford Focus ST

    1. 05-01-2013 03:51 PM #1









      Mk7 GTI seems to be the real deal.

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      05-01-2013 03:53 PM #2
      In for 13 pages of bitching from people who haven't driven either vehicle
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      05-01-2013 03:57 PM #4
      Didn't know it had a real E-diff this time. Interesting.

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      05-01-2013 03:59 PM #5
      im ready for the TCL drama fest of the year

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      05-01-2013 04:02 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      im ready for the TCL drama fest of the year
      pretty much!

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      05-01-2013 04:02 PM #8
      Love the GTI
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      05-01-2013 04:03 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      In for 13 pages of bitching from people who haven't driven either vehicle


      That's not much of a prediction - even in Europe, the mk7 is still on pre-order and isn't out yet. No one has driven one.

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      05-01-2013 04:04 PM #10
      The GTI seems legit. I can't wait until they show up here.

      Also, is it me or is that last picture from the article absolutely awful? It makes both cars look like crap.
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      05-01-2013 04:05 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by caliatenza View Post
      im ready for the TCL drama fest of the year

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      05-01-2013 04:06 PM #12
      Too bad the whole ride quality portion has to be ignored here....adaptive damping is probably something we'll never see VW bring over for this car...

    13. 05-01-2013 04:08 PM #13
      I am pretty stoked about this thing. I can't wait to see what they do with an R variant.
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      05-01-2013 04:11 PM #14
      Also one thing I've been noticing from some of the recent review/comparo in EU about the ST, the price separation is greater between the ST and GTI(MK6 I guess in most cases) than it does in US...certainly makes the ST more attractive there...here they are basically even on pricing...at least currently...

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      05-01-2013 04:12 PM #15
      Good review, I think.

      I'm aiming for a Focus ST personally in the next few months, but its not for a lack of love for the GTI. My MKV drives great, and I'm sure the MK7 is better, but it my GTI has just been too much of a maintenance/repair headache for me to trust VW on another one.
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      05-01-2013 04:18 PM #16
      And the less said about the MK3 and MK4, the better.
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      05-01-2013 04:20 PM #17
      What's up with the gap in the GTI's grill? It almost looks like there's a GoPro in there in the pictures.
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      05-01-2013 04:23 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Shooter_McGavin View Post
      What's up with the gap in the GTI's grill? It almost looks like there's a GoPro in there in the pictures.

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      05-01-2013 04:24 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Shooter_McGavin View Post
      What's up with the gap in the GTI's grill? It almost looks like there's a GoPro in there in the pictures.
      Adaptive cruise control is my guess.
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      05-01-2013 04:25 PM #20
      Does not surprise that newer generation car beats a car thats been out over a year and been in development in last 3 years

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      05-01-2013 04:27 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by hardcore4life View Post
      Does not surprise that newer generation car beats a car thats been out over a year and been in development in last 3 years
      The exact argument when ST was beating the MK6s....

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      05-01-2013 04:27 PM #22
      Sounds awesome. I wonder if the GTD will get the e-diff as well.

    23. 05-01-2013 04:28 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by The Holy Molar View Post
      Sounds awesome. I wonder if the GTD will get the e-diff as well.
      Sadly, no.

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      05-01-2013 04:29 PM #24
      Meh. Still looks terrible. ST for me.
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      05-01-2013 04:32 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by StringTheory View Post
      Sadly, no.
      Why not??

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      05-01-2013 04:33 PM #26
      I thought the new GTI was rumored to be significantly lighter than the outgoing model. What happened to that? They say it's heavier than the ST which is already a reasonably heavy hatch.

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    28. 05-01-2013 04:35 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      In for 13 pages of bitching from people who haven't driven either vehicle

      + saying how the R is now more sh*tty

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      05-01-2013 04:36 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by EnIgMa '06 View Post
      I thought the new GTI was rumored to be significantly lighter than the outgoing model. What happened to that? They say it's heavier than the ST which is already a reasonably heavy hatch.
      I'd think that the performance package adds some weight. The adaptive suspension is part of that, isn't it?

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      05-01-2013 04:36 PM #30
      When you guys say e-diff do you mean real mechanical LSD vs Electronic diffs that work by applying brakes to limit tq?

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      05-01-2013 04:36 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by Preppy View Post
      pretty much!


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      05-01-2013 04:40 PM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by aleksl View Post
      When you guys say e-diff do you mean real mechanical LSD vs Electronic diffs that work by applying brakes to limit tq?
      Read the very last paragraph of the acticle.

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      05-01-2013 04:41 PM #33
      The GTI seems like it just keeps getting better and better since the mkV. Which is awesome, because I really liked my mkV. But the question is, at what price? There were a lot technical wizardry (variable ratio steering, e-diff, electronic dampers, and a "performance" edition). VWofA has some big decisions to make. Make it too expensive and its appeal will be limited, but completely neuter by removing the majority of the fun bits from the EU-spec cars and it's just another hot hatch. I really couldn't justify a lightly optioned GTI with some of the chassis tweaks if it's going to cost me close to what the next generation of V8-powered pony cars will likely be starting at.

      I'll be looking closely at how VW prices the GTI and what features are std/optional.

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      05-01-2013 04:41 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Bandwidth View Post

      + saying how the R is now more sh*tty
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      05-01-2013 04:43 PM #35
      So in short the GTI is:

      Faster
      More fuel efficient
      Has more TQ

      Oh god I can't wait for the next several pages!

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