16v FAQ: if you are new to the 16v forum, this is the thread for you

[South_East_Vintage]

Searched a bunch and couldn't find detailed info. Anyone done a full motronic 16v swap from a passat into a CE2 8v Mk2? Is it relatively plug & play?

[VDub2625]

Yes. Search the Mk2 forums

[motoxpaul05]

can anyone help me with my 2.0 getting no spark from the coil?

[ghettojetta20vT]

is it possible to run a 16v engine on the mk3 2.0L 8v management? Im contiplation on swaping in a 16v into a mk3.
Any info on this would help.

[VDub2625]

You'd need to set up some sort of crank trigger wheel.

[Unit01]

Quote, originally posted by zerogravityGTI »

the other end that goes from this 10pin plug is the engine harness and located driver side fire wall 1st off what do think this bay harness is off from (10pin plug)? the engine bay harness is already hooked/plugged in to the fusebox, ecm, ignition, knockbox, etc. The other end of the 10pin plug should go to all the o2, throttle switch, etc. pretty much that plugs in and wraps the engine (that i dont have)

Looks like it's the one for the transmission? I have a US harness running my 16v that I swapped in and it has that.

Mine isn't connected because I have a engine and trans from a CE2. I'll look tomorrow to make sure.


Modified by Unit01 at 11:55 PM 3-6-2010

[90 sleeping GLI]

wow tht could be tru... my gli has over 600,000 miles on it.. and revs to 7000 to 7200 rpm like like mouse on cheese. and pulls like no tomorow

[doubleclutchvr6]

Quote, originally posted by AntoineJo »

this is what removing the AC on a 2.0L 16v looks like. Notice the cut bracket, the alternator mounted where the A/C was, the 8v alternator pulley and the A/C belt used to drive the alternator.

A/C delete is done wrong. the pulley that runs the water pump is a free wheeling pulley for the a/c. I know this because I made the same mistake.
i found the proper pulley on a spare water pump I had laying around. Not sure what it came off of. but it took one washer a bolt to space it right.

[VDub2625]

I haven't seen it but I have heard from people that some cars had a fixed pulley, not a freewheeler... but the proper pulley is better, saves sinning weight The 8v pullies aren't spaced the same either.

Oh and you can remove the outer half of the crank pulley too. they're seperate

Modified by VDub2625 at 12:43 AM 4-3-2010

[cooldub]

I haven't seen it but I have heard from people that some cars had a fixed pulley, not a freewheeler... but the proper pulley is better, saves sinning weight The 8v pullies aren't spaced the same either.

Oh and you can remove the outer half of the crank pulley too. they're seperate

Modified by VDub2625 at 12:43 AM 4-3-2010

Is using the waterpump pulley off a 8v a bad thing? I do see in the pic that it is alot closer to the crank but will this affect anything?

[otakuphill]

do i get a head gasket for a 1.8 or 2.0 motor?

i heard you can use a 1.9 tdi gasket to lower the compression, what kind of car is it used in? (year, make)

does it just bult up to all the stuff on my 1.8 or do i have to replace stuff like mounts, tranny plate?

is the there a noticeable gain in torque that makes it worth the time?

is there a step by step to make sure i set it up and have the timing and compression right?

any help would be great.

[Greengt1]

Is using the waterpump pulley off a 8v a bad thing? I do see in the pic that it is alot closer to the crank but will this affect anything?

Not at all.... it doesnt move...

[Dfray00]

I'm replacing all of the vacuum lines in my car. Where can I find them for sale at? New to VW and learning slowly with a bentley and lots of beer!

[onlyrotary17]

3) alternater drivebelt and/or bearings screach when in a low gear, stops when the engine goes above 3000 RPMs. What is it, how can i fix it?

I would appreciate the help, i have only dabbled in the home mechanic thing for a short time know.

I thought it was a pulley thing on mine.. I was surprised to find out it was just an old belt.

[kuztumpainter]

hi guys and gals....i just bought an 89 gti 1.8 16v. The problem i'm having with it is at idle it goes to 1100 to 800 then 1100 rpm. when im on the road, at a stop lite the idles does the same when im ready to pull out it falls on its face (bogs,breaking up) then it clears up then its fine. iv check vac lines, disconnect reconect sensors. exhaust smells lil rich. has good spark,compression.has new cap, rotor, wires plugs....im clueless....please help me! im goin nuts

[usafjumper]

This is my first post on here, but I have been reading these threads for a while. I can't seem to find the rigt one to read. I THINK I have a 1.8l sitting in my mk1 golf, but it is set up mostly k-jetronic with the ECU of a mono jetronic system. The only sensors that are hooked up ar the high oil pressure and coolant temp for the in dash meter.
My main question is can anyone walk me through the wiring up of the rest of the sensors? The car runs great in my opinion for a mk1 but does idle roughly and smells incredibly rich. I have pics of the setup if you guys need to see. Any help is much appreciated.

[mr bug vw]

hey guys need some help well i got myself my first 91 gli jetta 16v 2.0 well when i got it the guy said it had some timing issue so he put a junk yard distributor and got it running so when you start the car it iddles rough and seem it wants to die if you dont pump gas second when you take off it runs smooth once you get too 4,000 rpm it cuts off and wants to die shift gear and normal hit 4,000rpm again it stalls wants to turn off then wait a couple seconds turn the car back on and revs it self t0 4,000rpm any help please i just want to drive my gli also i switched computer from anothr 16v 2.0 and still does the same i was told it could be knock sensor distributor or computer or tiiming help thaanks

[TODRW]

My 16v has low power until about 3k rpm. Any thoughts? I was thinking to adjust the cams a little. the distributor line was not perfectly(darn close) straight but the cam dimples were lined up and cut by the plain of the head. Thanks in advance

[kuztumpainter]

k guys my brain is mush!....any who...heres my deal i picked up a 95 aba 2.0.short block complete with 130,000 miles on. i own a 89 gti 1.8.16v. i'm planing on puttin on my 1.8. 16v head on the 2.0.people told "i can use ALL of my 1.8 v stuff off my block and trnsfer it to the 2.0. everything "suppose" to bolt rite up no worries. if thats the case awsome BUT i started read forums on here and forget it 2.0.this 2.0.that....thats why im so confused. so please guys simplfiy this as much as possible. im not a motor guy a body guy yes. im lookin for 200+hp just want some dependable. thank for your time and help.

[kuztumpainter]

k guys my brain is mush!....any who...heres my deal i picked up a 95 aba 2.0.short block complete with 130,000 miles on. i own a 89 gti 1.8.16v. i'm planing on puttin on my 1.8. 16v head on the 2.0.people told "i can use ALL of my 1.8 v stuff off my block and trnsfer it to the 2.0. everything "suppose" to bolt rite up no worries. if thats the case awsome BUT i started read forums on here and forget it 2.0.this 2.0.that....thats why im so confused. so please guys simplfiy this as much as possible. im not a motor guy a body guy yes. im lookin for 200+hp just want some dependable. thank for your time and help.

[Turbo3]

k guys my brain is mush!....any who...heres my deal i picked up a 95 aba 2.0.short block complete with 130,000 miles on. i own a 89 gti 1.8.16v. i'm planing on puttin on my 1.8. 16v head on the 2.0.people told "i can use ALL of my 1.8 v stuff off my block and trnsfer it to the 2.0. everything "suppose" to bolt rite up no worries. if thats the case awsome BUT i started read forums on here and forget it 2.0.this 2.0.that....thats why im so confused. so please guys simplfiy this as much as possible. im not a motor guy a body guy yes. im lookin for 200+hp just want some dependable. thank for your time and help.

Your not gonna get 200+hp from just putting the head on. That combo will give you low compression for boost. Search and you'll find all the info you need on that combo.

[kuztumpainter]

sry i screwed up im NOT lookin for 200+hp

[IFlyGTI]

FIRING ORDER ON 16V: 1 - 3 - 4 - 2 COUNTERCLOCKWISE rotation

Unlike all the 8v motors, where the distributor turns clockwise, the 16v is opposite, counterclockwise.

D'oh. Hate it when that happens.

[kinnata]

I have never ever come across such a wonderful piece of information. Today I am proud to say that I have finally gain knowledge on this topic and here on I shall also spread the same preaching ahead so that the world become a better place to live in.

[mk3FTW.]

will the 2.0 16v with a tdi headgasket raise the compression to 11:1 on an aba 2.0 block? and from what ive seen 2.0 16v should bolt directly up to the aba block with the exception of the intake mani and the oil cooler lines.

please verify if this info is correct, id really appreciate it!

[jdubskiemk3]

Ok so I keep gettin EGR codes in my mk3 golf that iv got a 16vt swap in anyone know what I should do seeing as I don't have a EGR system.

[Glegor]

Ok so I keep gettin EGR codes in my mk3 golf that iv got a 16vt swap in anyone know what I should do seeing as I don't have a EGR system.

get it coded out of your tune..

if theres no EGR equipment, then it will ALWAYS throw codes without the right non-egr tune..

[cbs88gti]

Has anyone else had any issue with fuel pumps not wanting to act right? I've checked the grounds to the pump and throughout the car, checked the relay, and checked the coil. I'm getting constant 12v to the relay and proper power to the pump. I am NOT getting spark, and the pressure from the pump is seemingly weak according to my mechanic which is leading me to beleive its in the relay panel or wiring somehwere. Any ideas?

[1SlyGTI]

Has anyone else had any issue with fuel pumps not wanting to act right? I've checked the grounds to the pump and throughout the car, checked the relay, and checked the coil. I'm getting constant 12v to the relay and proper power to the pump. I am NOT getting spark, and the pressure from the pump is seemingly weak according to my mechanic which is leading me to beleive its in the relay panel or wiring somehwere. Any ideas?

You know, this MAY or may not fix your problem, but... I recently had an issue where when I turned the key to on position I'd get no FP prime and despite having power to the coil, I was getting no spark. After replacing the Coil (now running Nology's coil and wires, absolute best coil and wires I've ever used) and the FP relay, I started digging.

Low and behold, it was in the LAST place I looked. Underneath the Raintray there's a control box next to the cabin filter. I took the connection to that off and found that two of the wires near the back were corroded (from moisture, normal wear and tear(?), and heavy vibration from stereo) and had finally lost connection. I clean them up, re-terminated them and plugged it back in and VOILA... she fired right up.

Strangest damn thing I've ever experienced and I've been driving 16v's since I was 15 (23 years now). Hope this helps, if not, PM me with more details and I'll help much as I can.

[Glissaid]

I have a full rebuild with after market flywheel.The problem is i do not have a tdc mark on the flywheel.I need to degree the block to be able to make a tdc mark on the flywheel and i don't trust the mark on the crank pulley because of the amount of play left and right in the pulley before the bolts are tight.Has anyone done this before?

[Scirocco1415]

Can I put 2.0 16v motor passat b3 on scirocco mk2 85?
any modification on the Mounts engine?
I have mega squirt and the transmission I use the scirocco
Tell me
Thanks
some advice o suggestion?

[9aba16vt]

Use the Rocco mounts. And yes it will fit perfectly

[MkBean]

might be the wrong place to ask this but i have a 82 rabbit convertible that i swapped a 16 valve into out of a 87 rocco. im using the entire fuse box and wiring and i cant figure out how to wire my single round lights to work with the the quad headlight setup that the rocco harness has. if i run the headlights they will shut off and turn on every couple minutes and eventually drain my battery and the car will lose power. any thoughts?

[MkBean]

might be the wrong place to ask this but i have a 82 rabbit convertible that i swapped a 16 valve into out of a 87 rocco. im using the entire fuse box and wiring and i cant figure out how to wire my single round lights to work with the the quad headlight setup that the rocco harness has. if i run the headlights they will shut off and turn on every couple minutes and eventually drain my battery and the car will lose power. any thoughts?

[Mtl-Marc]

might be the wrong place to ask this but i have a 82 rabbit convertible that i swapped a 16 valve into out of a 87 rocco. im using the entire fuse box and wiring and i cant figure out how to wire my single round lights to work with the the quad headlight setup that the rocco harness has. if i run the headlights they will shut off and turn on every couple minutes and eventually drain my battery and the car will lose power. any thoughts?

You are right, wrong place to ask.

Please start a new thread there ==> http://forums.vwvortex.com/forumdisp...?152-Cabriolet

Good luck.