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    Thread: C&D: 2014 VW Jetta 1.8T First Drive

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      09-06-2013 02:02 PM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman View Post
      VW makes a nicer Jetta with a high tech engine again and this time it handles. :
      Weeeellll, let's not go crazy now.

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      09-06-2013 02:33 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by Cadenza_7o View Post
      Fortunately, I'm slightly less clueless (see how I put those words together) than those who take their VWs to Jiffy and got Jiff'ed up zer A$$.

      I have the Mk4 1.8T with 219k miles but I'm opting out this time around.

      This 3rd gen EA888 1.8T is the new frontier of complications. Maybe 888 is the sign of the VW devil.

      Just curious, does anyone know how much this electro-mechanical coolant pump costs and how much to replace it.... looks like it sits quite pretty right beneath the intake manifold.


      Looks simple to change out when the inevitable time comes, and cheap, too. Not. lol. Would be real interested to know the retail price on this assembly. Anyone in parts can find out for us?
      Last edited by syncro87; 09-06-2013 at 02:35 PM.

    3. 09-06-2013 05:20 PM #108
      Who buys cars with drum brakes these days ha ha !

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      09-06-2013 05:59 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by zukiphile View Post
      Is dual injection the addition of an injector upstream of the valves so you don't have to spoon the carbon out?
      Yes, though time will tell how much of a problem this is with the EA888 engines. Some DI engines suffer from much higher rates of build-up than others, PCV and EGR system design also plays a big role.

      Quote Originally Posted by zukiphile View Post
      The 2.5 gave 33mpg, and the 1.8 is to give 36mpg, taking a turbo and direct injection to do it. I am not yet impressed.
      I don't know, I feel like maintaining horsepower, increasing torque, increasing fuel efficiency, meeting stricter emissions, all while reducing displacement by 25% is pretty good.

      But really, the most important thing for VW with this engine is that it gets all of their VW/Audi bread and butter models on to the same engine design (EA888 2.0T for Audi, EA888 1.8T and 2.0T for VW) being produced in the NAFTA zone. Once the supply chain gets up to speed they'll realize huge manufacturing savings over the 2.5, which was always an oddball. This will allow them to keep pricing competitive while making a profit at the same time, which is always nice.
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      09-06-2013 06:04 PM #110
      Okay so it is slapped in the Jetta. Yay big whoop. But a 2014 1.8t 5-spd Beetle is calling my name. That is going to be a great little car.
      I'd really love a Defender.

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      09-12-2013 08:34 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by Turbio! View Post
      Weeeellll, let's not go crazy now.
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      09-12-2013 09:33 PM #112
      Seriously, so much whining, crying and butthurt. Is there ever a day that passes where you guys aren't fighting/struggling your hardest to find faults and flaws with Volkswagens? It reminds me of religious nut bags arguing over whose god is right and why certain "things" are wrong. Also reminds me of why I stayed away from these forums for a few years. Well, that and all the horribly unfunny and outdated memes and images. Nothing quite like sub par "dad" jokes, am I right?

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      09-13-2013 03:26 AM #113
      Quote Originally Posted by deziking View Post
      Who buys cars with drum brakes these days ha ha !
      People who know that most of the braking of a grocery-getter takes place in the front, where the Jetta has disks?
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      09-13-2013 03:30 AM #114
      Quote Originally Posted by deziking View Post
      Who buys cars with drum brakes these days ha ha !
      Same people who don't waste money on cars with optional AWD.
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      09-13-2013 05:50 AM #115
      No DSG option just auto ?

    11. 09-13-2013 06:06 AM #116
      I owned a 20th AE MKIV GTI and a MKV GTI 6 spd before, I test drove a 1.8T SE auto and I liked it. Suspension/engine/tranny performance were all very good. Ride was very good with the 16" tires for everyday driving. I had driven DSG before but for most ppl using the S Mode in the 1.8T Auto seems adequate.

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      09-13-2013 07:41 AM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by Fantomasz View Post
      No DSG option just auto ?
      Buy the GLI or TDI.

      Leave the DSG out of the mass market mainstream cars.

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      09-13-2013 09:18 AM #118
      None of the US market Jettas have rear drums any more (since 2013 IIRC). Discs even on the 2.0 base.
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    14. 09-13-2013 10:02 AM #119
      which auto transmission is the latest jetta 1.8t using? the aisin 6 speed?
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      09-13-2013 12:56 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by 2.0T_Convert View Post
      Needs better headlights!
      While I know you were kidding, I do think that it's long past time that projectors became standard on all cars, ideally with xenons instead of halogen bulbs. The difference is substantial, and being able to see where you're going is definitely a safety improvement, not a for-fun thing like a better radio would be.

      That said, the reflectors on our 2012 TDI are pretty good for reflector headlights...

      ... but I still want to replace them with projectors or Hybrid HIDs when we can. Too bad no version of the Passat has those available.

      I also overall like the US Jetta and Passat for the most part, though I'd have tweaked the front end a bit were I a designer. Too bad there is no wagon version of the Passat. I'd consider such a thing for a future vehicle.

    16. 09-24-2013 08:03 PM #121
      I just purchased one of these (2014 SE 1.8T w/ MT). Coming from a 98 Civic to this thing is a dream.

      Hoping all your premonitions of inevitable doom for the 888 engines will go unrealized. Positive reinforcement anyone?

      Anyways, so far so good. It's fast enough and, being an industrial designer, I was instantly attracted to the clean and purposeful interior styling. Now to be far, I'm not particularly thrilled by the bland exterior midsection styling - however it will stand the test of time much better than said focus/mazda3/cruze/elantra - and I am in it for the long haul.

      Now to really emphasize my ignorance - can anyone recommend some good synthetic oils for this car - and how often should I really wait before changing the oil? Thanks.

    17. 09-24-2013 08:04 PM #122
      paid 19,500 btw

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      09-24-2013 08:05 PM #123
      Quote Originally Posted by alleghenyman View Post
      Would you settle for "handles better than a canoe?"
      Oh, readily.
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      09-24-2013 08:10 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      I just purchased one of these (2014 SE 1.8T w/ MT). Coming from a 98 Civic to this thing is a dream.

      Hoping all your premonitions of inevitable doom for the 888 engines will go unrealized. Positive reinforcement anyone?

      Anyways, so far so good. It's fast enough and, being an industrial designer, I was instantly attracted to the clean and purposeful interior styling. Now to be far, I'm not particularly thrilled by the bland exterior midsection styling - however it will stand the test of time much better than said focus/mazda3/cruze/elantra - and I am in it for the long haul.

      Now to really emphasize my ignorance - can anyone recommend some good synthetic oils for this car - and how often should I really wait before changing the oil? Thanks.
      I would just follow VW's maintenance schedule. This thing isn't a Ferrari V12 -- using the appropriate synethic at service intervals should serve you just fine.

      I am glad you like the car -- it is certainly another great option out there in the $20k sporty car arena.

      Coming from a 98 Civic, you most certainly WILL have more issues than you did with the Civic, but the majority of VW owners love their cars and get by just fine. On this website, because it originated as part of VWvortex, there are just lots and lots of people who have owned quite a few VWs and have become fed up with their quirks, so to speak.

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      09-24-2013 08:12 PM #125
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      I just purchased one of these (2014 SE 1.8T w/ MT). Coming from a 98 Civic to this thing is a dream.

      Hoping all your premonitions of inevitable doom for the 888 engines will go unrealized. Positive reinforcement anyone?

      Anyways, so far so good. It's fast enough and, being an industrial designer, I was instantly attracted to the clean and purposeful interior styling. Now to be far, I'm not particularly thrilled by the bland exterior midsection styling - however it will stand the test of time much better than said focus/mazda3/cruze/elantra - and I am in it for the long haul.

      Now to really emphasize my ignorance - can anyone recommend some good synthetic oils for this car - and how often should I really wait before changing the oil? Thanks.
      Not sure how you came this conclusion.
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I know...it is sheer insanity to want minimal to zero problems with my cars.
      Quote Originally Posted by stascom View Post
      I went to a local dealership the other night and test drove a Jetta. Didn't have a single issue in a 5-mile test drive. German cars are bulletproof.

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      09-24-2013 08:28 PM #126
      Quote Originally Posted by makasay View Post
      Not sure how you came this conclusion.
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      09-24-2013 08:43 PM #127
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      it's called "an opinion"
      There is no such thing as an opinion when it comes to reliability

      Especially when this car has less of a reliability record than this some of the other cars.
      Last edited by makasay; 09-24-2013 at 08:47 PM.
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I know...it is sheer insanity to want minimal to zero problems with my cars.
      Quote Originally Posted by stascom View Post
      I went to a local dealership the other night and test drove a Jetta. Didn't have a single issue in a 5-mile test drive. German cars are bulletproof.

    23. 09-24-2013 08:54 PM #128
      Quote Originally Posted by makasay View Post
      There is no such thing as an opinion when it comes to reliability

      Especially when this car has less of a reliability record than this some of the other cars.
      What you highlighted in his post was related to the design of the Jetta vs the others

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      09-24-2013 09:01 PM #129
      Quote Originally Posted by deziking View Post
      Who buys cars with drum brakes these days ha ha !
      They keep the wheels clean and last almost a lifetime.

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      09-24-2013 09:32 PM #130
      Quote Originally Posted by makasay View Post
      There is no such thing as an opinion when it comes to reliability
      Yet, that's exactly what Consumer Reports reliability ratings are based on.

    26. 09-24-2013 09:51 PM #131
      Quote Originally Posted by makasay View Post
      Not sure how you came this conclusion.

      I was speaking purely to the aesthetics of the car. As previously mentioned, the styling is understated. There are no superfluous speed lines, swoopy curves or jagged edges.

      In 10 years time, as trends change and car designs evolve, the Jetta's styling will feel fresher and less representative of this particular era of cars. Look at some of the radios / record players designed by Braun in the 60's and 70's compared to the Sony Walkman of the 80's. It's much easier to distinguish the Walkman's boxy, geometric aesthetic as a benchmark of 80's styling. While Braun's design ques practice a higher level of restraint - thus inspiring more relevant/timeless icons like the iPod.

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      09-24-2013 09:58 PM #132
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      I was speaking purely to the aesthetics of the car. As previously mentioned, the styling is understated. There are no superfluous speed lines, swoopy curves or jagged edges.

      In 10 years time, as trends change and car designs evolve, the Jetta's styling will feel fresher and less representative of this particular era of cars. Look at some of the radios / record players designed by Braun in the 60's and 70's compared to the Sony Walkman of the 80's. It's much easier to distinguish the Walkman's boxy, geometric aesthetic as a benchmark of 80's styling. While Braun's design ques practice a higher level of restraint - thus inspiring more relevant/timeless icons like the iPod.
      Gotcha, but reliability will be less than something like a Mazda3, which considering you came from a 1998 Civic I thought that would be most important to you.
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I know...it is sheer insanity to want minimal to zero problems with my cars.
      Quote Originally Posted by stascom View Post
      I went to a local dealership the other night and test drove a Jetta. Didn't have a single issue in a 5-mile test drive. German cars are bulletproof.

    28. 09-24-2013 10:10 PM #133
      Quote Originally Posted by makasay View Post
      Gotcha, but reliability will be less than something like a Mazda3, which considering you came from a 1998 Civic I thought that would be most important to you.
      The Civic was my first car when I was 16 - and the Jetta is definitely a happy departure.

      How much of a difference in reliability can you foresee for owning a car like this? Will I be shelling out money for repairs on a yearly basis?

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      09-24-2013 10:14 PM #134
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      The Civic was my first car when I was 16 - and the Jetta is definitely a happy departure.

      How much of a difference in reliability can you foresee for owning a car like this? Will I be shelling out money for repairs on a yearly basis?
      I've never owned a VW but from other peoples experience VW's are typically more expensive to maintain than Japanese cars. Plus, this is a new engine, so I guess you'll have to wait and see.

      You have a warranty and you may need to use it
      Quote Originally Posted by dcmix5 View Post
      I know...it is sheer insanity to want minimal to zero problems with my cars.
      Quote Originally Posted by stascom View Post
      I went to a local dealership the other night and test drove a Jetta. Didn't have a single issue in a 5-mile test drive. German cars are bulletproof.

    30. 09-24-2013 10:15 PM #135
      Quote Originally Posted by Buran View Post
      While I know you were kidding, I do think that it's long past time that projectors became standard on all cars, ideally with xenons instead of halogen bulbs. The difference is substantial, and being able to see where you're going is definitely a safety improvement, not a for-fun thing like a better radio would be.

      That said, the reflectors on our 2012 TDI are pretty good for reflector headlights...

      ... but I still want to replace them with projectors or Hybrid HIDs when we can. Too bad no version of the Passat has those available.
      A well designed reflector light will always be better than a mediocre projector. There are plenty of reflector based lights I would gladly use of projector units, HID's included. Its about perception, people think projectors are better when in reality they are no better unless designed to be so.

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      09-24-2013 10:33 PM #136
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      I just purchased one of these (2014 SE 1.8T w/ MT). Coming from a 98 Civic to this thing is a dream.
      Congrats Make sure you visit the Mk6 Jetta Forum, it's a much better place for model-specific info.
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      09-25-2013 11:44 AM #137
      Quote Originally Posted by haytorious View Post
      The Civic was my first car when I was 16 - and the Jetta is definitely a happy departure.

      How much of a difference in reliability can you foresee for owning a car like this? Will I be shelling out money for repairs on a yearly basis?
      As mentioned, you should check out the MK6 Jetta Forum -- they can answer all of your questions in there.

      As for shelling out money, you have a warranty. Wait a few years, see how many (if any) warranty repairs you've done, and make an informed decision about whether you want to keep it for the long haul.

      It is exceedingly rare for a new-model VW to blow an engine or transmission. The cars are fundamentally solidly built. It's just things like sensors, etc., that tend to fail and cost quite a bit of money to fix.

      THese are generalities, of course. There are some VW owners who claim never to have had hteir cars break down (which I have a hard time beleiving). Moreover, the MKVI VW's seem to have a substantially better reliability record than previous generations.

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      09-25-2013 11:53 AM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      As for shelling out money, you have a warranty.
      indeed

      worst case, trips to the (often very incompetant) vw dealer will get annoying, but at least it wont cost you anything out of pocket

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      09-25-2013 12:14 PM #139
      Hooray to VW for restoring the Jetta to what it should have been (at least for the non-loss leader base model) all along.

      I'm driving a 2.5 S loaner today, and ugh...what a bucket. 48XX miles and there are already 3 distinct rattles between the driver's door panel and dash. Interior is like a Chinese copy of a VW interior--it looks similar, but then you touch or operate anything and the illusion is destroyed. It has a disappointingly floaty suspension (that hops sideways in the rear when you hit an expansion joint on a clover interchange) and numb brakes.

      The 2.5L is a gas hog (I've used 1/8 tank driving less than 25 miles? Really?) and, while offering decent torque, has odd throttle response and is amazingly laggy to throttle inputs.

      There just is no way the 1.8T and IRS car couldn't be an improvement.

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      09-25-2013 12:17 PM #140
      Quote Originally Posted by Jettavr666 View Post
      A well designed reflector light will always be better than a mediocre projector. There are plenty of reflector based lights I would gladly use of projector units, HID's included. Its about perception, people think projectors are better when in reality they are no better unless designed to be so.
      +1

      My GTO had halogen projectors and the headlights were a little worse than the halogen reflectors in my Si.

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