24V VR6 oil change how to lots of photos

[Integrale]

Anyone?

[kamil]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

My car is leased....is it worth changing my own oil? I was quite satisfied taking it to the dealership...found a great mechanic and it ended up leaving...close to home, only $28 dollars...too good to be true I guess.

if it's leased then i wouldn't bother putting synthetic or any of the goodies in it. I would just pay the dealer to change the oil.

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by FLdude »

yes.. same basic procedure.. I have never worked on a 12V.. other than the diffrent filter and possibly a diffrent oil quanitly it should be about the same.

Yes, my (now former) '93 VR6 procedure was the same. Filter looks different, but all the other is the same. That engine took 6.1Qt for a full oil change and my '03 24V VR6 also takes 6.1Qt per the manual.

[^Doogie]

Quote, originally posted by kamil »

if it's leased then i wouldn't bother putting synthetic or any of the goodies in it. I would just pay the dealer to change the oil.

But what if you fall in love with it and wind up wanting to buy it?

NAH! Not gonna happen when the R32 is sitting outside during lease end/ lease buyout negotiations

[Integrale]

I just got the filter...but it's a 021 115 562A number...not a 071-115-562....at the filter corrigations are straight...not warped...they also charged me $19 for it...

I'm taking it back.

[Integrale]

Well...i found out that according to the dealership this new number I stated above is a newer part...replaces the older wavey style insert. Just an FYI.

[Miles267]

Read this post for the first time. Awesome job.

Wish you would consider doing one for tire rotation with a floor jack + stands

Questions: Is 5W-40 the same as synthetic? Can't find it anywhere. My car still has factory oil in it but says I can use 5W-30 (SJ) if available.

What are your thoughts on this? Never used synthetic in the past and am unaware of true pros/cons of oil vs. synthetic.

Thank you.

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Miles267 »

Read this post for the first time. Awesome job. Wish you would consider doing one for tire rotation with a floor jack + stands Questions: Is 5W-40 the same as synthetic? Can't find it anywhere. My car still has factory oil in it but says I can use 5W-30 (SJ) if available. What are your thoughts on this? Never used synthetic in the past and am unaware of true pros/cons of oil vs. synthetic. Thank you.

In your climate NEVER use 5W-30 oil! It's too thin for the engine (according to the manual for warm weather) and could cause damage. Go to Autozone, or Pepboys (or what ever auto parts store is down there) and get 6 quarts of "Mobil 1 Synthetic, 0W-40", that is what your engine should have in it. It's approved for the VW standard mentioned in the manual (as well as most other German and Japanese cars). Just changed mine the other day and it runs wonderfully!

[03GLIgirl]

Hrmph... When we went into the Parts dept to get a new filter, my bf asked the service guy, 'Whats VW using in the 24V VR6.. synthetic?' The service rep says in what car, we respond '03 GLI' and the rep says no, that application does notn call for synthetic....

Was he crazy??

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by 03GLIgirl »

Hrmph... When we went into the Parts dept to get a new filter, my bf asked the service guy, 'Whats VW using in the 24V VR6.. synthetic?' The service rep says in what car, we respond '03 GLI' and the rep says no, that application does notn call for synthetic.... Was he crazy??

To my knowledge, no, it doesn't require synthetic, but should you use it? I know I do. It's better the engine, especially since the recommended drain interval is 10K miles after the first 2 changes.

[BadassVW]

I can't find x-40 wt synthetic at any of my local retailers!
...........Autozone, Hires, Meijers, Walmart... zippo!

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by BadassVW »

I can't find x-40 wt synthetic at any of my local retailers! ...........Autozone, Hires, Meijers, Walmart... zippo!

No Mobile 1 0W-40 Synthetic? Weird. You could ask Autozone to order it for you. Or just find an online place and order that or (if you want the really good stuff) Redline or Amsoil.

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

I just got the filter...but it's a 021 115 562A number...

Can anyone confirm the above number is the correct part number now used?

[Integrale]

Anyone ? Pretty please???

[melman8r]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

Anyone ? Pretty please???

Put both numbers in @ http://www.impexfap.com/home.c...47952. It doesn't look right??

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by melman8r »

Put both numbers in @ http://www.impexfap.com/home.c...47952. It doesn't look right??

I got the right one...FLDude's filter was correct.

As far as oils go, I think anyone using a multiblend would be wise as it's cheaper than full synth and probably does almost as good of a job.

You'll save ALOT of money..

[Integrale]

FYI...the oil pan drain plug is impossible to take off...I gave up after 30 minutes of trying. Taking all the parts back and just have it serviced by the dealer.

[melman8r]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

FYI...the oil pan drain plug is impossible to take off...I gave up after 30 minutes of trying. Taking all the parts back and just have it serviced by the dealer.

I had no trouble...first oil change 5k. Mobil 1.

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by melman8r »

I had no trouble...first oil change 5k. Mobil 1.

I've ended up spending so much more for the oil, fiter, tools, time spent, I wonder if it's even worth it. And I still don't have a decent jack, stands, and things like that. If I got those I'd end up spending over $200 just for an oil change?


Modified by Integrale at 7:11 PM 6-8-2003

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

I've ended up spending so much more for the oil, fiter, tools, time spent, I wonder if it's even worth it. And I still don't have a decent jack, stands, and things like that. If I got those I'd end up spending over $200 just for an oil change?Modified by Integrale at 7:11 PM 6-8-2003

Don't most people already have those? I think my Jack was $50 and my stands were about $15 for a pair. You'll save that after the first couple of do it yourself changes. Plus, then you know the chane ot done riht and some dealer didn't leave the old filter in because they were lazy or something!

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by SLVR6 »

Don't most people already have those? I think my Jack was $50 and my stands were about $15 for a pair. You'll save that after the first couple of do it yourself changes. Plus, then you know the chane ot done riht and some dealer didn't leave the old filter in because they were lazy or something!

That's true...at least you know you'd do it right! I'll have to look into getting a jack...living in an apartment with limited storage blows.

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

That's true...at least you know you'd do it right! I'll have to look into getting a jack...living in an apartment with limited storage blows.

I can relate. When I lived in an apartment I got lazy and took mine to the dealer normally. Most complex's don't take to kindly if they catch you out there with the car up on jack's, mine had rules against it!

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by SLVR6 »

I can relate. When I lived in an apartment I got lazy and took mine to the dealer normally. Most complex's don't take to kindly if they catch you out there with the car up on jack's, mine had rules against it!

I think I'd be okay with the rules but I'd need to be discrete...

What do you think about getting car ramps rather than a jack? And a couple of wheel chocks? Would I still need a jack stand?

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

I think I'd be okay with the rules but I'd need to be discrete... What do you think about getting car ramps rather than a jack? And a couple of wheel chocks? Would I still need a jack stand?

Ramps work fine if you can get your car on them. Then you also don't have to worry as much about a flat surface. My old roommate found out the hard way the you NEVER jack a car up when there is a slope! He jacked his up, passenger side was on a slight slope, using his jack from the trunk, even though I told him it was a bad idea. Came back in the aparment with a collapsed scissor jack and a sore shoulder!

[Integrale]

Quote, originally posted by SLVR6 »

Ramps work fine if you can get your car on them. Then you also don't have to worry as much about a flat surface. My old roommate found out the hard way the you NEVER jack a car up when there is a slope! He jacked his up, passenger side was on a slight slope, using his jack from the trunk, even though I told him it was a bad idea. Came back in the aparment with a collapsed scissor jack and a sore shoulder!

He's lucky he got away with only a sore shoulder...

I was wondering about the easy or difficulty of getting the car onto ramps. I think sears has some nice low profile types that may work out okay.

[SLVR6]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

He's lucky he got away with only a sore shoulder... I was wondering about the easy or difficulty of getting the car onto ramps. I think sears has some nice low profile types that may work out okay.

I've never actually used ramps, but they should be pretty easy to use. Just drive up them carefully, then chuck the wheels.

[Miles267]

Anything special needed to chock wheels or are a few pieces of 2x4 good enough? BTW, bought a set of those low-profile ramps from sears (yellow ones) and used them this weekend on my gf's Saturn, which is fairly low to the ground. They worked great as long as you go SLOW both on and off them - particularly when backing off of them.

[mrcvr6]

Quote, originally posted by Integrale »

I just got the filter...but it's a 021 115 562A number...not a 071-115-562....at the filter corrigations are straight...not warped...they also charged me $19 for it... I'm taking it back.

That 021 115 562a number is for a 12v oil filter. I just bought one today, it matches the number perfectly on my bill. And in canada they charge 33.20 for the filter. The second number, 071-115-562 is most likely for a 24v engine.

[FLdude]

Quote, originally posted by mrcvr6 »

That 021 115 562a number is for a 12v oil filter. I just bought one today, it matches the number perfectly on my bill. And in canada they charge 33.20 for the filter. The second number, 071-115-562 is most likely for a 24v engine.

yep.. 071-115-562 is for the 24V

[Integrale]

Finally got around to changing the oil today. Everything went well but not sure if it was worth the effort...well...give everything a shot once I suppose.

The two things I could not replace were the crush washer on the oil pan filter plug...which I think is a good thing actually. I don't think the dealer had change it either since the car was new. What came with the filter was a bronze coloured washer...the washer attached to the pan plug was the same colour as the plug itself...and slightly smaller than the new washer....indicating that the washer may perhaps need to stay in place.

Second, I could not remove the filter drain plug...it would not budge and I was afraid I may damage the hex inside the plug. Needless to say, I did not change out the filter plug o ring. After thinking about it, I wasn't even sure why this would need to be removed. I didn't have to remove it to change the oil.

Anyway, no leaks so far...I hand (tool) tightened all items to a point it was snug and wouldn't budge anymore.

One other thing, I bought myself a set of ramps to raise the car. Boy are they a ----- to use...it's quite difficult to use them without causing much mayhem!

Anyway, thought I'd give all an update.

[pb123]

where can i buy the filters in bulk. i dont want to be paying 20 bucks a filter if i can get them cheaper buying 10 or so at a time. i plan to change my oil evey 3to 5,000 miles because im anal about things like that even tho some synthetics claim to last up wards of 10,000 miles.

[Miles267]

I would highly recommend Dave @ http://www.germanautoparts.com/

[Ricoman]

Awesome post!!!! Is someone going to put this on a website as a DIY link? I would br glad to put it on mine, for it needs a VW enthusiast section. would you mind if I did?

[Miles267]

I take it you spoke to Dave? Surely you're not asking my permission? That's where I bought mine; picked up a case.

[Kowgod]

How different is this writeup from an oil change on a 1.8T?

I want to change my oil, but have yet to find anything even close to this writeup as far as information and detail goes, for the 1.8T.