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    Thread: The Official Double-Din Monsoon Aftermarket Amp+Sub(s) Install Guide

    1. 07-15-2003 03:35 PM #126
      Quote, originally posted by Irie18Turbo »
      The Blaupunkt adapter does work with monsoon head units. It plugs in where
      the yellow dummy plug sits and provides the line-outs and remote.

      Are you sure about this? It has been my understanding that the adapter only works with single-din non-mosoon head units. I hope I'm wrong because I could use this thing on my 2002 Passat w double-din monsoon

    2. 07-15-2003 09:52 PM #127
      02 GTI double-din Monsoon does anyone know where the rear amp is at.
      Thanks for your help!

    3. 07-16-2003 03:03 AM #128
      dude.
      are you joking?
      how could you buy a car and not know where stuff is?
      or worse, how could the salesman get away without telling you.
      sorry, but i'm just being real.
      anyhow.
      --open hatchback
      --insert head
      --turn head to left side of trunk area.
      --see left side panel with two (2) knobs
      --open side panel via two (2) twist knobs
      --look at amp.
      --pull head out of car.
      --say to yourself. "wow, that is a clever place to put it"
      --hooray VW
      jp

    4. 07-16-2003 03:31 AM #129
      Does anyone have the schematics for the non monsoon system to hook up the LOC should I go with the rear speakers or to the back of the HU.

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      07-18-2003 12:58 AM #130
      nice [IMG]http://**********************/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]

    6. 07-19-2003 02:30 PM #131
      Quote, originally posted by jpgti18t »
      hi Irie18turbo.
      thanks for hooking me up with the blaupunkt adapter info.
      i do have one question.... will this adapter, if plugged into a amp and sub actually sound better with monsoon system than my current setup... which is my amp tapping into rear speaker lines for signal?
      here is the deal. my car is a lease with 18 months left on it... and i have yet to decide if i am keeping it after the lease it up... it's mint with 14k miles 2002 leather, sunroof 17's, monsoon, etc.
      i am seriously contemplating yanking the entire monsoon system and replacing it with all boston component speakers and a 10 inch boston sub in a tight sealed box, 2 alpine amps, and an alpine head unit.
      the only problem i have with this install of amp and sub.... is this.... my current monsoon system actually sounds better without the addition of the amp and sub. the problem with this line level install is this.... you are tapping into a full signal that, when adjusted via the bass knob on the HU, totally screws with the sound clarity because it removes the necessary signals from reaching the monsoon speakers... and, in fact, removes some of the signal from reaching the bass amp.
      this is a terrible way of adding a sub to the system.... you have to adjust your bass, mid, and treble for each and every cd.... not to mention the fader.
      i am yanking this setup due to the lack of control and the overall a$$ sound it has created in my otherwise decent stock system.
      my new theory on all of this.... i am either going to deal with what i have in the car (which is not that bad) or yank it all in favor of super high end quality stuff (i.e boston, etc)
      i will get up with you if i need the adapter.
      peace-out
      Modified by jpgti18t at 3:59 AM 7-8-2003

      I get you. I think your install was done wrong. Two ways of doing it..
      Tapping into the line-level signals going to the monsoon for the sub
      amp or tapping into the speaker level inputs with an adjustable high
      to low converter. That signal sent to the sub amp should be of the correct
      impedance. Note that the gain on the amp has to be adjusted also to
      match the signal level.
      Recommended that you crank up the volume 3/4 with the gain turned
      down. Adjust gain on sub amp till it just starts to distort.. then back off.
      You should be good there.

    7. 07-19-2003 02:37 PM #132
      Quote, originally posted by red5sp1.8T »
      Are you sure about this? It has been my understanding that the adapter only works with single-din non-mosoon head units. I hope I'm wrong because I could use this thing on my 2002 Passat w double-din monsoon

      I have the schematic of the monsoon head unit to prove it.
      It is possible that the monsoon's amp may be plugged in there.
      In that case the adapter wouldn't work. You'd just need to tap into
      the low outputs to the monsoon amp from the yellow socket.
      That's a pretty simple install..



      Modified by Irie18Turbo at 4:43 PM 7-25-2003

    8. 07-22-2003 06:08 PM #133
      i want to install an aftermarket radio in my '03 Jetta. i have the monsoon. do you know if you need to have another harness to bypass the monsoon amp if i simply want to push my speakers off of the new radio i want to install. wow, long sentence. i apologize if this topic has been covered. i am in the process of finding the information, but i haven't been lucky yet. the radio is a 200 ( 50 x 4 into 4 ohms) Watt amp, so i figured it would sound more powerful than the monsoon amp. but, i am not sure what the ohms are on the speakers. any information would be great.
      thanks,
      abe...

    9. 07-23-2003 05:03 PM #134
      Quote, originally posted by red5sp1.8T »
      Are you sure about this? It has been my understanding that the adapter only works with single-din non-mosoon head units. I hope I'm wrong because I could use this thing on my 2002 Passat w double-din monsoon

      I aint I confirmed that the adapter works with the Single DIN
      Monsoon & Non-Monsoon
      so far. Did it myself. As suspected the amp takes
      its input from the brown adapter on that system and had the yellow adapter
      labelled as line out for external amp. Just need to confirm it wired similarly on
      double din monsoon.
      How hard is it for someone to slide their radio to check? Will make all these
      self installs much easier.


      Modified by Irie18Turbo at 5:05 PM 7-23-2003

    10. 07-24-2003 12:31 AM #135
      ok guys, i've followed every step in that tutorial, easy and clean install. except- i am having more trouble figuring out how to connect this relay than it took me to find that damn grommit! i bought the relay, but am clueless as to how to connect it... simple things confuse me. help?

    11. 07-24-2003 12:35 AM #136
      Forget the relay. Don't need it.

    12. 07-26-2003 11:37 AM #137
      I have a 2002 Jetta monsoon system....i'm going to follow this tutorial, but i need to figure out how to remove the damn bracket to the monsoon amp at the top of my trunk! i cant access the wires i need to get to...has anyone had success with this?

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      07-27-2003 01:07 PM #138
      Ok... I hooked up the LOC behind the HU, and followed the wiring diagram. I installed the amp in the trunk with the remote turn on coming from the cd changer control. The amp turns on when it should, but I get no sound out of it. I know it works, it was in my last car. I've played with all the gains, and still nothing except a little "thud" when it turns on and off. Where am I losing the signal???

    14. 07-28-2003 12:21 AM #139
      Ok, i have an older (6-7 years) Kenwood combo amp/sub that sounds pretty damn good in a car this sized, my question is about the turn on circuit. Is the connector on my amp labeled "P.Con" what i connect to the grey wire from the changer harness/power on relay?

      Thanks
      Eric

    15. 07-30-2003 05:39 PM #140
      Quote, originally posted by Skeyelab »
      Ok, i have an older (6-7 years) Kenwood combo amp/sub that sounds pretty damn good in a car this sized, my question is about the turn on circuit. Is the connector on my amp labeled "P.Con" what i connect to the grey wire from the changer harness/power on relay?

      Thanks
      Eric

      yeah...that is where you would connect it

    16. 08-01-2003 02:30 AM #141
      Quote, originally posted by Irie18Turbo »
      Forget the relay. Don't need it.

      Ok.. Lemme re-phrase that. If you have a Blaupunkt adapter
      use the remote line from there to turn your amp on. If you
      use the grey wire it may blow your amp. I can see
      it happening. Actually after a month of running fine.. my amp
      blew out when I turned it on. It may be that the amp was
      defective as well as tapping directly into the grey wire was the
      culprit. I think I may try the relay version just to see how it
      works. Can't hurt.

    17. 08-01-2003 10:15 AM #142
      the relay works beautifully and can be had for like 4 bucks at any local store.

    18. 08-04-2003 06:05 PM #143
      Hi all,
      I've been trying to set up a sub in the trunk in my NB (2002 GLX Monsoon, rear. door and dash speakers)and cannot get a proper signal. I used Golf info to get a hot lead from the rear speaker lines into the hot input (non-signal) but all I get is mids or highs/ whats going on? I removed the drivers side door panel as well and found that the identical wire coloring is being used on the door speaker as well as the rear left? Whats what? To complicate things more when I set the HU to right rear only so I can test the line I get bass only from the door speaker no matter what(fader all to rear, balance to all left, still the door speaker gives some bass). Somebody help me out here. The power leads all worked including the grey turn on lin e. Thanks for any responses.

    19. 08-12-2003 08:18 PM #144



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      08-12-2003 10:02 PM #146
      Quote, originally posted by R30SC »
      Your a dumb *** if you can't figure that out. My 4 year old sister can school you on how to run wire thru your cheap f-ing car.

      whoa whoa.....easy pal

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      08-17-2003 05:17 PM #147
      OK, I've tapped the wires for signal as documented, but I don't have a changer, so I don't have access to the "grey wire". Is there anywhere upstream I can tap into it without removing the carpeting and such? Also, in an attempt to find a place to tap the Monsoon inputs, I pulled up the trim piece over the back passenger side door threshold to see if I could hide a tap easier there. Now my airbag light is on. I would assume it is a VAG-COM reset thing, but are these things that picky? I am planning to run a #4 superflex cable for power from the battery down the driver's side, I'm assuming I should install that before getting the airbag light reset in the event it trips when pulling up that side too. Perf311, you seem to have the same car as I, I just want to confirm everything works fine in yours. I am only looking to run a PPI A600 into 2 or possibly 4 Kicker Comp 10s.

    23. 08-17-2003 05:26 PM #148
      you do not need the changer to access the gray wire, i do not have one either. you just locate the harness that would connect to the changer if you had one.

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      08-23-2003 11:21 PM #149
      K, I followed the directions and hooked up everything as directed.
      #4 superflex (blue to match the car) from battery to fuse holder (60A fuse) through grommet in the firewall, under the dash to the driver's side threshold. Wire buried perfectly.
      #4 in Silver to ground via the passenger side seat belt retainer bolt.
      30A relay for grey cd-changer wire
      tapped into the Monsoon inputs and tied them into the speaker level inputs on my crossover.
      Found the cause of my airbag light when checking the passenger side before, I inadvertantly unplugged the harness from the sensor next to the back seat under the trim piece. (I'm assuming the VAG-COM will reset when I bring it in for my oil change)
      Mounted only 2 Kicker C10a's powered by my PPI A600 and it rattled my trunk tooo much already.
      The car came with the spoiler and I figured it would rattle, but I had to stuff a rag in between the metal back dash and the interior panel because it was bouncing like crazy. The license plate rattles real bad, but my last car's were easily remedied by a tube of silicon caulk to alleviate that. (Home Depot, here I come tomorrow)
      Just wanted to thank all who commented in this thread as it helped immensly.
      Also wanted to add further confirmation that the process works fine on a 03 Jetta GLS w/DDMonsoon.
      Now to get rid of the rattles and I'll add my other pair of 10's into the cabinet.

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      09-05-2003 03:16 PM #150
      Update:
      Now my amp no longer turns on with the HU, I confirmed that the relay is clicking on/off, will investigate further to confirm if the relay contacts just arent working or not now.

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