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    Thread: APR Presents the 2.0 TSI K04 Turbocharger System Version 3.0!

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      04-09-2014 10:25 AM #1
      APRís Engineering Teams have finished final testing of new version 3.0 K04 Turbocharger software for the 2.0 TSI/TFSI EA888 Gen 1 engine. The new ECU Upgrade improves upon power deliver on top of what was previously a tremendous upgrade over stock! Amidst addressing all previous concerns, additional motorsport features were added to further enhance your driving experience. Updates are now available at APR dealers and are offered as a FREE update for APR ECU Upgrade customers!

      • Please call to check file availability before booking an appointment! This is very important!
      • An OEM Bosch 3-Bar Map sensor, found here is REQUIRED to run this software. This is also very important!
      • Currently the software is available for North American CCT and CBF engines with CCZ and CAW rest of world engines under beta testing.


      APR is pleased to present the 2.0 TSI EA888 Gen 1 K04 Turbocharger System!



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      For the budget minded individual, APR is pleased to offer software and hardware utilizing an APR proprietary customized version of the factory Borg Warner K04-64 turbocharger. Originally equipped on VAGís high output models, such as the Golf R and S3, the APR K04 Turbocharger System offers a substantial leap in power and torque all with excellent response in a reliable and stealthy, compact design. Expect lightning fast response, smooth daily driving and power that transform the vehicle into a new class of enjoyment.



      The APR K04 Turbocharger System features many upgrades over the 2.0Tís factory equipped IHI turbocharger, making it an excellent upgrade. The integrated turbofold design features a cast stainless steel exhaust manifold and turbine housing, integrated into one single unit. This design aids in turbocharger spool while the stainless steel construction is capable of withstanding higher exhaust gas temperature for longer periods of time than lesser materials, such as cast iron. The CNC-machined, billet aluminum compressor wheel and higher flow exhaust turbine wheel expand the turboís efficiency range, allowing for higher output across a wider RPM range.

      True to APRís mantra of Performance without Compromise the days of shredding tires on front wheel drive vehicles are rapidly disappearing thanks to the new Gold Standard in ECU torque management calibration strategies only APR can deliver. Compressor surge is avoided to increase the reliability of the system without limiting the area under the curve typically experienced during a top speed acceleration run. APRís endless pursuit of perfection has resulted in the most comprehensive 2.0 TSI K04 turbocharger system and tuning package in the world.

      Using 93-octane fuel, the APR K04 Turbocharger System produces an astonishing 360 horsepower and 382 ft-lbs of torque. Unlike the factory turbocharger, power stays strong and doesnít dramatically taper towards the vehicleís new 7,100 RPM redline. Switching to APRís 100 octane race fuel mode, peak power and torque climb further to 375 horsepower and 408 ft-lbs of torque. APRís calibration experts have safely maximized the full power potential of the turbocharger unit, while keeping reliability at the forefront of their calibration strategies.

      APR K04 Turbocharger System Components

      Turbocharger



      At the heart of the K04 Turbocharger System is an APR proprietary customized version of the factory Borg Warner K04-64 turbocharger originally equipped on VAGís high-output models, such as the Golf R and S3. The turbocharger features a CNC-machined, billet compressor wheel and stainless steel exhaust turbofold.

      Each turbocharger unit is machined, assembled and clocked in house at APR with the necessary brackets to ensure proper wastegate fitment and orientation. Each wastegate is then calibrated for precise operation and control to ensure seamless integration with the expertly recalibrated OEM engine management system.

      Integrated DV Adapter



      One of the greatest benefits to the APR K04 turbocharger system is its simple, yet elegant design. APR's CNC-machined direct compressor recirculation port on the OEM compressor cover significantly reduces engine bay clutter and saves the end user from the hidden costs of purchasing extra throttle body pipes, hoses, clamps and DV mounts for recirculating boost pressure. The compact design also removes extra charge piping volume to allow for faster boost response and less locations for boost leaks. Furthermore, charge air pressure is directed directly at the compressor wheel which helps keep the turbo spooled upon lifting the throttle, minimizing turbo lag.

      Turbo Outlet and Turbo Muffler Removal



      The OEM k04 turbocharger features a turbo muffler designed to reduce turbocharger sound, but does so at the cost of ultimate performance. APR removes the turbo muffler not only to enhance the sound of the turbocharger, but to also provide a smooth airflow path across the previously baffled muffler section. A clean and simple CNC flange developed by APR's Mechanical Engineers is bolted directly to the compressor cover in place of the OEM turbo muffler. A long mounting surface provides an excellent slip-proof surface for mounting the included APR EZ-Flow silicone discharge hose and an o-ring between the flanges ensures a life of leak-proof operation.

      PCV Blockoff Plate



      The K04 turbocharger was originally designed for an EA113 2.0T engine, and as such, includes items not present on the EA888 2.0T engine. The compressor cover features a port used in the EA113ís PCV system, but on the EA888ís this same port is located higher up on the intake tubing. APR has provided a gasket-sealed laser-cut port cover to block off this part to ensure no unmetered air enters into the system. The design is clean and simple and never requires maintenance.

      Engine Management



      The factory Bosch MED 17 engine management system is responsible for proper operation of the engine during constantly changing environmental and load conditions. With built in compensational data for environmental variables and varying load conditions, the factory ECU is far more complex and intelligent than units found in other vehicle makes and marques.

      With the significant amount of changes included in the APR K04 Turbocharger System, APRís Engineers spent months calibrating the engine management system, including hundreds of hours of in-house chassis dyno development. Drivability, gear changes, cruising and part throttle operation were tuned to operate smoothly as if intended by the OEM through proper torque management. Further development was performed putting the vehicle through performance evaluation and durability testing at the drag strip and road course. APRís Electrical Engineers built new coding functions, strategies and routines into the ECU to control conditions normally unseen at factory power levels. Thanks to APRís incredible proprietary calibration suite, data logging software and full access to the coding structure of the ECU, appropriate and intelligent changes are made to ensure flawless drivability and excellent performance without compromise.

      Engine Calibration:

      APRís Calibration Engineers restructured the engineís volumetric efficiency (VE) model to correctly determine the ECUís calculated load and deliver proper torque management. Thanks to APRís patented boost control coding and the addition of a 3-Bar MAP sensor, the ECU is able to perform closed loop boost control well beyond relatively low limits dictated by the factory MAP sensor. This directly translates to safer and more predictable operation while additionally producing more power and torque across the entire power band.

      Additionally, through the properly reconstructed VE model, accurate open loop fueling is achieved, translating to insignificant fuel trim adjustments. Closed loop fueling is calibrated to control lambda perfectly under all operating conditions. Furthermore, compensations, such as ones related to intake air temperature, exhaust temperature, and altitude, are adjusted to handle the larger variances compared to the factory, low-output setup.

      APRís Calibration Engineers have optimized cam timing, ignition timing, engine load and lambda to provide tremendous leaps in power while retaining the OEM knock control strategy. The result is safely achieved power, optimized for various fuel grades found around the world from low-quality pump fuel, all the way to high-quality, oxygenated race fuels.

      Compressor Surge Avoidance:

      To aid in turbocharger reliability and longevity, APRís engineers carefully studied the turbochargerís compressor maps to avoid regions where compressor surge may be experienced. The K04 turbocharger has fantastic response characteristics and is able to produce incredibly high pressure at low airflow levels, but in doing so, the turbocharger runs into issues of compressor surge. In the area between 3000-4000 RPM, APRís Calibration Experts have elected to limit boost pressure. During testing, with the limits removed, APRís engineers were able to easily achieve over 400 ft-lbs of torque with 93 octane fuel, but doing so could result in damaging the turboís reliability. Back-to-back testing was conducted with and without the limitation and despite the reduction in torque in this range, APRís engineers were unable to record a measureable difference in accelerative performance.

      Torque Management and Traction Control:

      Torque management plays a big role in how the vehicle feels and performs, especially during moments of low gear, rapid acceleration. Typically front wheel drive vehicles suffer from excessive wheel spin during these moments due to the massive torque on tap from the K04 Turbocharger System. Some drivers can find themselves in situations where they are fighting against wheel spin and traction control when they are simply interested in going forward as quickly as possible. This is further compounded by the fact that the factory traction control (ASR) system was designed for vehicles producing far less power and torque, resulting in overcompensated ASR interventions.

      APRís Calibration Engineers set out to perfect torque management and traction control by minimizing wheel spin as much as possible without neutering the driving experience. A multi-step approach was taken to achieve appropriate control. With ASR enabled, forward movement wheel spin will trigger appropriate torque intervention levels to minimize spin without hurting forward acceleration. On top of this, the torque management system is fine tuned to deliver only as much torque as the tires can take. In normal conditions the tires will only slightly break loose under full acceleration, resulting maximum acceleration. In higher traction situations, or with ASR disabled, all of the systemís torque is directly on tap!

      While the end goal is similar, APRís torque management system differs greatly from archaic ďboost-by-gearĒ strategies. ďBoost-by-gearĒ strategies rely on a static limitation of boost in an effort to minimize wheel spin, but to work properly they must be dialed in for every situation. The same boost levels in different weather conditions, such as a hot summer day and a cold winter month, can produce vastly different torque levels. Since APRís torque management system relies on the engine managementís phenomenal torque reporting abilities, it is able to adjust to every environmental situation it encounters. To achieve a targeted torque level, the ECU applies the appropriate changes to mass airflow and ignition.

      Acceleration Enhancements:

      Through further calibration changes APRís Calibration Engineers were able to increase the acceleration rate of the vehicle. Ignition delays are reduced resulting in a more responsive pedal without altering overall throttle sensitivity and resolution. Drivability was greatly improved by reducing the throttle lag commonly noticed at slow speeds and while reapplying throttle after decelerating. APRís Motorsport Rev Limiter allows power to climb all the way to redline without dropping off several hundreds of RPM earlier. Lastly, APRís tried and tested Motorsport Launch Limiter allows the driver to focus on launching the vehicle, rather than controlling the engine speed.

      Part-Throttle Drivability:

      Beyond wide-open throttle performance, APRís Calibration Engineers spent countless hours optimizing vehicle drivability under daily, part-throttle, driving. The vehicle fully retains its impressive daily driver status and simply has more power on tap should the driver request more with his or her right foot!

      APR EMCS and APR Mobile:

      APRís EMCS program-switching technology and APR Mobile put control of the ECU in the operator's hand to access modes for standard pump fuel, high-output race fuel and even reduced-output valet modes to protect the vehicle against improper use by other individuals. This technology is patented by APR and is found nowhere else in the world. Itís Performance Without Compromise only APR can deliver!

      Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor



      To provide closed-loop boost control at absolute pressure levels above 2.5 bar, APRís K04 Turbocharger System features an OEM Bosch 3 bar MAP sensor.

      Altering the ECU to understand the engine is equipped with a 3 bar MAP sensor is a trivial task. The sensor and proper calibration settings come standard on many factory VAG vehicles, but even these vehicles only provide proper closed loop boost control up to 2.5 bar absolute.

      APRís electrical engineers went many steps beyond the norm and recoded the factory ECU to deliver closed-loop boost control up to 3-bar absolute. This ability, combined with proper torque management, results in safe, reliable, and predictable performance at higher power levels without the need for clumsy and archaic external boost controlling devices.

      Silicone Hose




      A wire-reinforced, multi-ply silicone hose provide an unrestricted path for airflow exiting the turbocharger. The hose is engineered to properly connect the turboís outlet to the factory charge piping system.

      APRís Easy-Flow Silicone Hose design features stepped mounting surfaces for smooth transitions from one pipe to another. Traditional designs simply sit on top of each other, often resulting in a disruptive airflow path. By using the stepped design, hoses fit properly without airflow restrictions, resulting in the most ideal path for moving air through the turbocharger and into the engine.


      Gaskets and Hardware



      APR doesnít cut corners even with the most mundane details of the kit. Every nut, bolt, stud, washer, clamp, and gasket necessary for the install is included with the kit.


      Dyno Testing

      Horsepower and torque were measured in APRís in-house, Soundmaster dyno cell, using a Dynapack all-wheel dynamometer. Multiple stock and modified runs were conducted and the SAEJ1349 corrected results were averaged together to represent the differences between a stock and APR K04 2.0 TSI. Crank power figures were estimated based on VAGís factory advertised results.

      Click through the tabs below to view output using various fuel grades, power measured at all four wheels, estimated at the crank, and the absolute gain over stock.



      91 Octane | 93 Octane | 100 Octane - Measured Front Wheel Horespower
      91 Octane | 93 Octane | 100 Octane - Estimated Crank Horsepower
      91 Octane | 93 Octane | 100 Octane - Gain over Stock

      Calibration Report

      Output:

      200 HP & 207 FT-LBS of Torque - Stock as Rated by VAG
      221 HP & 220 FT-LBS of Torque - Stock as Measured by APR
      346 HP & 360 FT-LBS of Torque - APR K04 with 91 AKI or 95 RON fuel
      360 HP & 382 FT-LBS of Torque - APR K04 with 93 AKI or 98 RON fuel
      375 HP & 408 FT-LBS of Torque - APR K04 with 100 AKI or 104 RON fuel

      Max Gains over Stock (based on APR's CCTA/CBFA measured output):

      +133 HP @ 6,700 RPM & +143 TQ @ 4,400 RPM - APR K04 with 91 AKI or 95 RON fuel
      +144 HP @ 6,700 RPM & +164 TQ @ 4,400 RPM - APR K04 with 93 AKI or 98 RON fuel
      +166 HP @ 4,450 RPM & +191 TQ @ 4,450 RPM - APR K04 with 100 AKI or 104 RON fuel

      Requirements and Recommendations

      Intake System
      APR's software is designed to utilize the factory mass airflow (MAF) sensor and housing. The Carbonio Stage I and II Intake System is highly recommended and required to meet the advertised power output.

      Exhaust System
      The APR Downpipe Exhaust System is required if the vehicle is not currently equipped with the APR Turboback Exhaust System. APR Recommends the APR Catback Exhaust System for maximum performance.

      Intercooler System
      The APR Intercooler System is required to meet the advertised power figures.

      Transmission
      The K04 Turbocharger System greatly increases torque over the factory output levels and as such, an upgraded clutch may be necessary to transmit power to the ground. APR highly recommends upgrading the factory clutch to one that suits the operator's intended driving style.

      Exhaust Valve Springs
      APR has discovered some engines experience exhaust valve float at high RPM at the advertised horsepower levels due to excessive exhaust backpressure caused by K04ís relatively small turbine wheel. In such cases, APR recommends upgrading the factory valve springs. However, upon request, lower output software capable of producing 321 horsepower and 310 ft-lbs of torque on 93 octane is available.

      Tires
      APR recommends Michelin PSS and PS2 tires as well as BFGoodrich Rivals and GForce Sport Comp 2 tires.

      Fluids
      APR recommends Motul Fluids and Lubricants.

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      APR K04 Turbocharger System - Includes Software
      Part Number: T2100016
      Price: $2,749.99
      SALE: $2,474.99 <--- Sale till May 4th

      APRís K04 Turbocharger System includes APR software, but for customers without APRís Turbocharger System, who are looking to optimize their driving experience with the best engine management strategy available, APRís K04 software is available separately. This software requires an OEM Bosch 3-bar map sensor and an OEM Borg Warner K04-64 turbocharger with no modifications to the turbo other than the required fitment aspects. All other requirements and recommendations above should be followed to ensure compatibility.

      Software Only

      Existing APR Software Customers - $499
      New APR Software Customers - $899

      Motul Oil, Coolant and Oil Filter



      Part of the APR Turbocharger System install process requires removal of the OEM Turbocharger. During this process, oil and coolant must be drained and should be replaced to offer superior performance and protection. The APR Turbocharger Systems are now complete turn-key solutions, including everything you need down to the oil, coolant and oil filter. During checkout you'll be given the option between Motul Specific 502.00, 505.00 & 505.01 5W40 or Motul Power 300V engine oil as well as Motul Inugel Optimal Ultra Coolant and an OEM oil filter. The Premium Motul lubricant package is included at a much lower than retail price point and the costs are listed below.

      Motul Specific Lubricant Install Package



      5 Liters of Motul Specific 505.01, 502.00 & 505.00 SAE 5w40 Oil, Oil Filter & 4 Liters of Inugel Optimal Ultra (Concentrated) - Organic
      Part Number: MO00003
      Price: $75.00

      Motul 300V Lubricant Install Package



      6 Liters of Motul 300V Power 5W40, Oil Filter & 4 Liters of Inugel Optimal Ultra (Concentrated) - Organic
      Part Number: MO00007
      Price: $105.00
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      When I was getting stage 2 on my CC, you guys didnt have a tune for my ECU, I had to wait n got it done a week later or so. I have CCTA engine... should i call you guys to verify that you have upgrade for my particular ECU?

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      I have NGP checking now to see if my ECU is one of the ones that are covered. I really hope so
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      aaaahh not ready for my ecu yet

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      04-09-2014 12:52 PM #7
      Here's the list, in order:

      Quote Originally Posted by sean@apr
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      As a ball park, assume we can load 4 per day. We might do better than that, or we might do worse. It totally depends on how many flavors and versions there are of each.
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      Make sure you bring the 3 bar map sensor. It must be installed at the same time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      Make sure you bring the 3 bar map sensor. It must be installed at the same time.


      I wish I could just install it now and drive around with it until I get the tune. But to save the hassle I am just having NGP install it for me.
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      Is there an easy way to tell what box code you have?
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      If you have APR mobile, plug in, the box codes are listed.

      If you have vag-com, do this: http://www.goapr.com/support/boxcode.php

      Or call your dealer and have them look up your burn report.
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      woot im in the middle 06J906026DA
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      Tires
      APR recommends Michelin PSS and PS2 tires as well as BFGoodrich Rivals and GForce Sport Comp 2 tires.
      What size tires do you recommend?
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      What size tires do you recommend?
      We used a 235/40/18 on the max R with 18 x 8.5 wheels.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      We used a 235/40/18 on the max R with 18 x 8.5 wheels.

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post78760331
      I'm FWD would it make more since to jump up to 240 or 245's? I'm stage 2 and get quite a bit of wheel spin in the corners. I running Bridgestone Potenza RE970 Pole Positions now 235/40 18 on stock 18 x 8. I have been happy with the grip and handling but i want to reduce the wheel spin on the inside tire when cornering. And I'm sure a K04 will greatly increase the wheel spin.
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      Quote Originally Posted by L8Train View Post
      I'm FWD would it make more since to jump up to 240 or 245's? I'm stage 2 and get quite a bit of wheel spin in the corners. I running Bridgestone Potenza RE970 Pole Positions now 235/40 18 on stock 18 x 8. I have been happy with the grip and handling but i want to reduce the wheel spin on the inside tire when cornering. And I'm sure a K04 will greatly increase the wheel spin.
      Well, we actually tackled wheel spin with this calibration. Check the ECU section above, I go into detail there.

      We still typically ran a 235/40/18 on the 8" wheels around here if I'm not mistaken.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
      Well, we actually tackled wheel spin with this calibration. Check the ECU section above, I go into detail there.

      We still typically ran a 235/40/18 on the 8" wheels around here if I'm not mistaken.
      Has APR looked into changing the XDS (Electronic Differential Lock) setting to the stronger setting to help combat the wheel spin while cornering?
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      Quote Originally Posted by L8Train View Post
      Has APR looked into changing the XDS (Electronic Differential Lock) setting to the stronger setting to help combat the wheel spin while cornering?
      I haven't.
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      Does the V3.0 address the misfires do to weak valve springs? Or is the issue still resolved by replacing the valve springs or getting a lower output file that will reduce the back pressure?
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      Quote Originally Posted by L8Train View Post
      Arin,
      Does the V3.0 address the misfires do to weak valve springs? Or is the issue still resolved by replacing the valve springs or getting a lower output file that will reduce the back pressure?
      Never mind, I see the answer in the above post.
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      I have a gen 2 (2013 with gray engine cover), do I need an upgraded fuel injector to run K04? As for install, what is the going rate for a k04 install?

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      Can you speculate on what caused APR to pull the V3.0 K04 Tune from the website?
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      Can you speculate on what caused APR to pull the V3.0 K04 Tune from the website?
      It's there. What are you talking about?
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      It's there. What are you talking about?
      Then is must have just been put back up......but I believe some unforeseen issues arose and my shops 1st attempt at flashing an approved box code ECU resulted in complete ECU failure.

      This is all speculation about the website thing, but the ECU meltdown 100% happened.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mgleeson View Post
      Then is must have just been put back up......but I believe some unforeseen issues arose and my shops 1st attempt at flashing an approved box code ECU resulted in complete ECU failure.

      This is all speculation about the website thing, but the ECU meltdown 100% happened.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mgleeson View Post
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      Can you speculate on what caused APR to pull the V3.0 K04 Tune from the website?
      It was never pulled from the website. It's still there, and hasn't changed since I uploaded it last week.
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      04-15-2014 12:55 PM #30
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      It was never pulled from the website. It's still there, and hasn't changed since I uploaded it last week.
      I received the incorrect information then. Sorry about that Arin.

      How have all the Approved Box Code V3.0 ECU flashes gone so far? What has been the most common issue? Or have there been any other issues at all, outside of the one issue I've heard of, of course.
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      04-15-2014 01:04 PM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by L8Train View Post
      I'm FWD would it make more since to jump up to 240 or 245's? I'm stage 2 and get quite a bit of wheel spin in the corners. I running Bridgestone Potenza RE970 Pole Positions now 235/40 18 on stock 18 x 8. I have been happy with the grip and handling but i want to reduce the wheel spin on the inside tire when cornering. And I'm sure a K04 will greatly increase the wheel spin.
      Have you ever had any Real Track experience? My question to you would be, why are you heavy on the throttle in the corners? You should be completely off the throttle at the apex of the turn then you should use what is called "maintenance throttle" until you are almost completely out of the turn and then you can use full throttle.

      So in conclusion this is not an APR Software/Hardware or tire issue, it's your driving behavior that needs some fine tuning. Pun intended.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mgleeson View Post
      Have you ever had any Real Track experience? My question to you would be, why are you heavy on the throttle in the corners? You should be completely off the throttle at the apex of the turn then you should use what is called "maintenance throttle" until you are almost completely out of the turn and then you can use full throttle.

      So in conclusion this is not an APR Software/Hardware or tire issue, it's your driving behavior that needs some fine tuning. Pun intended.
      So in reality it is not my driving behavior, there was something with my car that needed to be adjusted. However, it was not APR hardware/software related. I just installed a torque mount dog bone insert last Thursday. This solved my wheel spin coming out of the corners.
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