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    Thread: *** APR DSG Upgrade Software Now Available @ APTuning ***

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      05-07-2014 10:56 AM #1


      APTuning is pleased to offer the ultimate transmission control unit (TCU) upgrade for the DQ250 Exx & Fxx DSG and S tronic transmissions, ! APR’s TCU upgrade is available in engine and power level specific variations and is conveniently flashed to the vehicle’s factory TCU through the OBD-II port. APR’s patented DirectPort Programming Suite allows the end user to customize the TCU upgrade to their individual needs.

      APR’s TCU upgrade enhances the driving experience by incorporating many of the same features typically reserved for high-end Audi Quattro GmbH RS models. Under blistering, wide-open throttle acceleration, the transmission shifts even more quickly than before with a higher rev limit. However, during normal, day-to-day driving, the TCU Upgrade delivers a smooth, more refined, driving experience.




      End User Adjustability



      APR’s DirectPort programming suite allows users to custom tailor the TCU upgrade to their needs at the time of installation. Users are given the following options, which they may change at an APR dealer at any time:

      • User definable APR pre-optimized shift patterns based on current stage of engine performance
      • User definable launch control RPM
      • User definable manual mode max RPM
      • User definable manual mode automatic upshift on or off
      • User definable manual mode automatic downshift on or off (Kickdown switch)





      Drive Mode Characteristics



      Drive mode’s performance and comfort is greatly improved based upon the current stage of engine performance. Gear change upshift and downshift points occur based on engine load and throttle position, rather than hard set points, and as such occur more smoothly and less abruptly. The driver may feel more connected to the vehicle as the gear changes occur more naturally. Under part throttle driving, the transmission will stay in the current gear until the appropriate moment necessary to shift, rather than jumping to higher gears too quickly. This is especially true for calibrations geared towards larger turbocharger systems where response characteristics of the turbocharger changes the part throttle driving experience. Under wide-open throttle acceleration, shifting times are reduced and the maximum shift point RPM is set to the ECU’s rev limiter.




      Sport Mode Characteristics



      Sport mode’s performance and comfort is also greatly improved based upon the current stage of engine performance. Expect extremely fast gear changes as the wide-open throttle shift times are reduced. APR’s taken a two-stage approach to wide-open throttle operation as well. Shift points are optimized to deliver the fastest acceleration possible under wide-open throttle by following the torque curve of each available stage. However, with the pedal pressed far enough to hold the kickdown switch, shifts points override the torque curve and now occur at the maximum engine RPM!

      Part-throttle drivability is greatly improved too. Some factory DQ250 transmission software is too aggressively geared towards holding high RPMs, and often uncomfortably downshifts when unwanted. Under low accelerator pedal position, low load driving, gearshifts occur earlier, allowing the driver to enjoy sport mode even during those moments when wide-open throttle operation is not permissible. However, should the driver request more torque with his or her right foot, the transmission comes alive in the true spirit of sport mode!





      Manual Mode Characteristics



      At the time of installation, the user is able to select several options that change the behavior of manual mode. The user has the ability to enable or disable either the manual mode automatic kickdown switch for automatic downshifts as well as the automatic upshift that occurs at redline. For safety and acceleration, APR’s engineers kept the automatic upshift present in first gear.

      The ECU defines the maximum engine RPM possible. Using APR’s user definable max RPM settings, the end user can match the ECU’s RPM to the TCU RPM to avoid hitting the engine rev limiter should the automatic redline upshift option remain active. In the case where an APR ECU Upgrade's redline is lower than expected, APR can issue a free ECU update to correct the max engine RPM.

      During manual mode shifting times are not only greatly improved, but the artificial delays between requesting a shift with the paddles and shifter are reduced as well. As soon as a shift request is made, the transmission instantly begins the shifting routine. Furthermore, the downshift lockout is removed, allowing the operator to downshift at any point, so long as the next gear does not surpass the max engine RPM.

      With manual mode tailored to the end users need, they are presented with a more enjoyable driving experience that operates exactly how they choose. We call it Performance Without Compromise!





      Launch Control



      APR’s TCU upgrade enables launch control on all vehicles. At the time of installation, the user is able to select their desired launch RPM, as they see fit! Launch control activates quickly, with a wider operating window, by limiting some of the stubborn activation criteria some models face during activation. The end user will notice launches now occur more rapidly with less delay between releasing the brake and forward momentum. The clutches fully grab quickly off the line and shift times are reduced. This directly translates into faster acceleration!




      Gear display indicator



      APR’s TCU upgrade enables the gear display indicator for Drive and Sport mode in the vehicle's multi function display.




      Torque Limits



      All too often TCU upgrades are sold as a solution to “torque limiters” in which many companies charge extra to raise. While some companies may have trouble with torque interventions from the transmission, even at stage I power and torque levels, APR ECU upgrades do not require a TCU upgrade to meet advertised peak torque levels. APR does not charge extra to “raise the limits.” Raising the limits does not increase performance and does not increase the transmission’s ability to hold more torque. The maximum torque limiters are simply removed, allowing customers unrestricted operation. In the event torque is limited by the factory clutches, upgraded units may be installed and torque may be increased without TCU intervention.





      DSG Temperature Management



      Temperature management is an important part of the DQ250 transmission. While some software may simply remove temperature protection routines all together and claim increased cooling performance, APR’s TCU upgrade only allows the maximum safe temperature levels before intervention. Unlike the factory intervention routine, which simply allows for nearly no torque to be transmitted through the transmission at all, APR’s over temp intervention allows for a very limited amount of torque, enough so the vehicle can be safely driven off the track or pulled to the side of the road. In keeping the vehicle moving, airflow continues across the radiator, which in turn keeps coolant temps low and aids in removing heat from the factory DQ250 water to oil cooler to restore full operation.





      Typical Max ECU Rev Limits
      • Naturally Aspirated Engines (ex, 3.6L FSI) - 6,800 RPM
      • 2.0T TDI CR Engines - TBD
      • 2.0T EA113 K03 Turbo Engines - 6,800 RPM
      • 2.0T EA113 K04 Turbo Engines - 7,100 RPM
      • 1.8T & 2.0T EA888 Gen 1 IHI Turbo Engines - 6,800 RPM
      • 2.0T EA888 Gen 2 IHI Turbo Engines - 6,800 RPM
      • 2.0T EA888 Gen 3 Honeywell Turbo Engines - 6,800 RPM
      • 1.8T EA888 Gen 3 IHI Turbo Engines - 6,800 RPM
      • 2.0T EA888 Gen 3 IHI Turbo Engines - 7,100 RPM
      • K04, Stage III and III+ Upgraded Engines - 7,100 RPM
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      05-25-2014 08:14 PM #6
      For the User definable options such as pre-optimized shift patterns based on current stage of engine performance, manual mode max RPM and launch control RPM is there a default set of parameters that APR suggest to go with or do I and my APR distributor have to figure this out?


      I have a 2010 Jetta TDI Cup Edition with the APR ECU tune already and just looking into the TCU software upgrade at the moment.

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      05-26-2014 09:19 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Gareths09 View Post
      For the User definable options such as pre-optimized shift patterns based on current stage of engine performance, manual mode max RPM and launch control RPM is there a default set of parameters that APR suggest to go with or do I and my APR distributor have to figure this out?


      I have a 2010 Jetta TDI Cup Edition with the APR ECU tune already and just looking into the TCU software upgrade at the moment.
      There are defaults they recommend.

      Typically the max rpm corresponds to redline. Depending on your setup you can shift sooner if you wish to stay in your power curve better but I wouldnt setting this for default as then you would never be able to run it to redline if you desired.

      The launch is another story. That defaults in the 2,300-2,600rpm(depending on application) range I believe on stock turbo cars, but is all relative to what the end user wants and works with. On the street its tricky as it will most likely end up in tire smoke anyway.

      For example I did this on my wifes CC which is stock other then the ecu flash. I found myself acting like a 16yr old kid again looking for empty back roads just to launch the car HA!!
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      05-27-2014 12:04 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Tom@APTuning View Post
      For example I did this on my wifes CC which is stock other then the ecu flash. I found myself acting like a 16yr old kid again looking for empty back roads just to launch the car HA!!

      LOL, that's what I'm afraid of by adding LC to my car.

    9. 05-27-2014 08:16 PM #9
      Tom,

      Why have we not seen many reviews on APR's DSG tune?

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      05-28-2014 12:02 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by sJetta69 View Post
      Tom,

      Why have we not seen many reviews on APR's DSG tune?
      No sure to be honest. Its still fairly new, and not cheap so its not like everyone with a dsg gets it done. But I know there are out there.
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      05-28-2014 03:46 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by sJetta69 View Post
      Tom,

      Why have we not seen many reviews on APR's DSG tune?
      I spoke to my local APR distributor and they had only done 1 car so far.

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      05-28-2014 04:23 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Gareths09 View Post
      I spoke to my local APR distributor and they had only done 1 car so far.
      Yea I wold say the ratio is probably 100:1 of ecu versus DSG. I have found that there are a lot of customers with a dsg that just don't know how good it really can be. Most think of it as an automatic and it works fine as such, but VW def leaves a lot on the table.
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      I am looking at a CPO B6 Passat but the DSG is something that makes me hesitate. I am very familiar with it but things like hesitation under part throttle are highly annoying. Does this do anything about that? What about warranty? Will it kill it, or is it like some places accepting the APR tune as being okay? I will not be tuning the car so I am not interested really in the options of adapting to different turbo set ups. I am just hoping this cures the hesitation inherent in the DSG.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      I am looking at a CPO B6 Passat but the DSG is something that makes me hesitate. I am very familiar with it but things like hesitation under part throttle are highly annoying. Does this do anything about that? What about warranty? Will it kill it, or is it like some places accepting the APR tune as being okay? I will not be tuning the car so I am not interested really in the options of adapting to different turbo set ups. I am just hoping this cures the hesitation inherent in the DSG.
      Yes most definitely. I don't think it was in this thread but I even stated before in another, my wife has a '10 CC which I absolutely hated driving around town and such because of the dsg, it was so sloppy and annoying. After the flash I try to take her car every chance I can because it just drives so much better now.
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    21. 06-15-2014 08:27 PM #21
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      How about having some of your satisfied customers give some reviews

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      How about having some of your satisfied customers give some reviews
      Ive mentioned it to some but I don't think a lot of new model owners are on vortex like it used to be. For example did a TT over the weekend and he was ecstatic about how much better it drove. Mentioned a review but he isn't even a vortex member but said he will post it up on one of the "TT Club" forums he is on.
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      Where do I get it and how much does it cost? I have a 2013 JSW TDI DSG.

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      Where do I get it and how much does it cost? I have a 2013 JSW TDI DSG.
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