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    Thread: g60 FAQ - Read this first!

    1. 03-03-2008 10:47 PM #51
      good to know

    2. 04-02-2008 07:02 AM #52
      amazon has 26#(stock size),30#,36#,44# for like super cheap.
      free ship and no tax in most states.
      search for set of 4 injectors.
      26# =89$,30#=83$,36#=139,32#=105$
      pricing changes daily but i rock their 30# they are awesome.
      think about it new fpr $75 or new injectors. or clean injectors $75 or new injectors $89 (26#) nuff said.
      passing the deal.

    3. 05-05-2008 05:38 PM #53
      sweet deal...
      btw repoman what IHI compressor was the charts above talking about?
      my 1.6L IHI is much different than those...

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      06-27-2008 09:07 PM #54
      what should the resistance read on the COPOT?(between terminals 1 and 3)
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      10-07-2008 11:45 PM #55
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      11-15-2008 02:42 PM #56
      The DIGIFANT uses a MAP [Manifold Absolute Pressure] sensor
      mounted in the ecu it is a specific size, 1 bar=15psi the sensor
      fills with the manifold pressure sending its reading to the ECU 8MB
      EPROM chip to adjust the injector pulse according to the program. I.E. digi lag.
      The ODB 1 and ODB 2 ecu uses a MAF [Mas Air Flow] the problematic
      air flow meter on the intake track measures the air flow entering the
      engine, calculates the values then sends it to the processor for instant fuel correction .
      For proper combustion the proper fuel ratio and ignition timing need
      to happen so the working gases ignite evenly across the piston top.
      Most engines produce maximum power (with optimized ignition
      timing) at an air-fuel-ratio between 12 and 13. Let's assume the
      optimum is in the middle at 12.5. This means that for every kg of
      air, 0.08 kg of fuel is mixed in and vaporized. The vaporization of
      the fuel extracts 28 kJ of energy from the air charge. If the mixture
      has an air-fuel-ratio of 11 instead, the vaporization extracts 31.8 kJ
      instead. A difference of 3.8 kJ. Because air has a specific heat of
      about 1 kJ/kg*deg K, the air charge is only 3.8 C (or K) degrees
      cooler for the rich mixture compared to the optimum power mixture.
      This small difference has very little effect on knock or power output.
      the mixture gets ignited by the spark, a flame front spreads out from
      the spark plug. This burning mixture increases the pressure and
      temperature in the cylinder. At some time in the process the
      pressures and temperatures peak. The speed of the flame front is
      dependent on mixture density and AFR. A richer or leaner AFR than
      about 12-13 AFR burns slower. A denser mixture burns faster.
      So with a engine under boost the mixture density raises and results in
      a faster burning mixture. The closer the peak pressure is to TDC, the
      higher that peak pressure is, resulting in a high knock probability.
      Also there is less leverage on the crankshaft for the pressure to
      produce torque, and, therefore, less power.

      The spark plug ignites the mixture and the fire starts burning. The
      speed of this flame front depends on the mixture, this means how
      many air and fuel molecules are packed together in the combustion
      chamber. The closer they are packed together in the same volume,
      the easier it is for the fire to jump from one set of molecules to the
      other. The burning speed is also dependent on the air-fuel-ratio. At
      about 12.5 to 13 air-fuel-ratio the mixture burns fastest. A leaner
      mixture than that burns slower. A richer mixture also burns slower.
      That's why the maximum power mixture is at the fastest burn speed.
      It takes some time for this flame front to consume all the fuel in the
      combustion chamber. As it burns, the pressure and temperature in
      the cylinder increases. This pressure peaks at some point after TDC
      . Many experiments have shown that the optimum position for this
      pressure peak is about 15 to 20 degrees after TDC. The exact
      location of the optimum pressure peak is actually independent of
      engine load or RPM, but dependent on engine geometry.
      The advances in power of modern engines, despite the lower quality
      of gasoline today, comes partially from improvements in combustion
      chamber and spark plug location. Modern engines are optimized so
      that the flame front has the least distance to travel and consumes the
      mixture as fast as possible. An already burned mixture can no longer
      explode and therefore higher compression ratios are possible with
      lower octane fuel. Some race or high performance engines actually
      have 2 or three spark plugs to ignite the mixture from multiple
      points. This is done so that the actual burn time is faster with multiple
      flame fronts. Again, this is to consume the mixture faster without
      giving it a chance to self-ignite.
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      04-11-2009 10:20 AM #57

      INA Engineering : Official VWVortex Rotrex Supercharger
      What kind of boost pressure and heat will we see from these chargers?
      if we have a OEM crank pully of 5 3/4" = 146mm
      and the smallest Rotrex charger pully is 70mm
      then that makes it a 2.0:1 engine rpm to charger rpm ratio
      that means on a PG engine i would see 6500rpm = 13000
      on a built engine i could see 8000rpm = 16000
      that would mean the charger input shaft will be spinning
      13000rpm or 16000rpm
      at 1:7.5 impeller ratio on your largest charger
      that equals 97500rpm or 112000rpm
      on the C38-61 the flow chart shows a 3.6 - 4.6 pressure ratio
      1 psi = 0.7031 grams/square millimetre
      at the maxime Charger RPM at 0.40 kg/S
      x 3.6 = 1.44 kg 0r 1.4 bar =20psi
      x 4.6 = 1.84 kg or 1.8 bar =26psi
      the C38-71 shows at max rpm a 0.45 kg/s
      x 4.6 = 2.07kg or 2.0 bar = 29psi
      this looks goodBUT the flow chart shows 115000 rpm
      were the ad says 90,000 rpm Maximum Impeller Speed
      NOTE 90,000 RPM limit
      so in relality 0.40 kg/s
      x 2.8 = 1.12 kg or 1.0 bar = 15.9 psi
      This is the largest Rotrex charger on the charts provided
      after doing the math on all that data provided i still don't know what
      the thermal dynamics are? how hot is the charged air?
      Assuming the use of a 70mm unit.Most Rotrex chargers leave Rotrex with either a 90mm or 100mm pulley
      ok so a stock PG 144mm crank pully at 6500 rpm
      90mm = 1.6:1 ratio = 10400 x 7.5 = 78000 charger impeller RPM
      100mm= 1.4:1 ratio = 9100 x 7.5 = 68250 charger impeller RPM
      on the 3.0l-6.0l charger flow chart
      90mm 78000 = 2.4 at 0.30 = .72kg/s = 10 psi
      100mm 68250 =2.0 at 0.25= 5.0kg/s = 7psi
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    8. 04-11-2009 11:56 AM #58
      any one know how to tune digi1? i have a motes chip burner but i cant get the information on the chip in to a form i can read? where could i find the softwar?

    9. 05-06-2009 09:06 AM #59
      Quote, originally posted by z-raddo g60 »
      The CarQuest worker stated the bypass oil filter that could be used is a super common filter. It matche(s) the threads perfectly (to the OEM Bosch filter). The CarQuest part number is 85040.

      A more common brand of oil filter is the Fram 3387A. I went with the Tough Guard for the bypass and no drain back feature, TG3387A.
      link for photo

    10. 05-11-2009 10:52 PM #60
      This was fantastic...great job. Could you help me out with a small detail? I need to figure out where the the following wires hook up to..."solid Red goes to #87 on the fuel pump relay - Red/Green strip- goes to #50 recieves +12v during starting - ISV or Idle Stabilizer Valve- Solid White/ Black with Yellow stripe recives power from #15 which is switched 12V +. - Yellow with Blue stripe, goes to #85 on fuel pump relay." Could you send me a picture and details of how you hooked everything up. Thanks bro. I'm almost done and then I'll post all the pics.,
      Regards,
      Michael

    11. 09-14-2009 01:09 PM #61
      One thing to always check if you are stalling/not starting is the following:
      - Remove the Hall connection at the distributor
      - connect a voltmeter to the outer pins (set voltmeter to read approx 10.5 volts
      - turn the ignition switch to run and measure the volts - must be greater than 10 volts
      - cycle the ignition switch while watching the meter to ensure it always reads greater than 10 volts,
      If it is all over the map - ie 10.5 volts one instance and then 8 volts the next, change your ECU relay - position 3 and either #30 or #32 relay. (I have also read that a #109 works, but I haven't confirmed this)
      Ask me how I know this - just spent 2 days trying to track down an intermittent stall on my Son's corrado.
      Also, if your car uses a #30 ECU relay, it is fine to use a #32. There is an extra terminal on the #30, but it is not required. It goes to the ECU, but I have confirmed it isn't required. In fact, most wiring diagrams show this teminal on the ECU is not connected.

    12. 12-09-2009 11:12 PM #62
      I was wondering, do you know if a corrado ECU (VW# 037 906 022 B) will work in a passat syncro G60 swap into a MK1? My original passat syncro G60 ECU (VW# 037 906 022 DQ) is fried. Any help would be great. I can be emailed at minicoretti@hotmail.com
      Thanks.

    13. 03-07-2010 01:01 PM #63
      the B works in just about anything not-automatic within the 037 906 022 class. the newer models had fixes to the original B board due to change in supplier parts. However automagic cars should stay in the same ALPHA version.
      B != automagic
      CR/CQ = could work on automatic if you had cr/cq
      DQ = best stick to DQ if you have automatic
      the passat also did its ground through the ecu mount point - the corrado does not.

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      04-21-2010 05:28 PM #64
      Any tips for swapping a g60 into my mk3 golf?

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      08-04-2010 02:02 PM #65
      this question pertains to the G-60 FAQ read this first thread, about buying an air fuel gauge. is the o2 sensor mentioned with the air fuel gauge, the o2 sensor in the catalytic converter?
      Last edited by bullitt46; 08-04-2010 at 02:06 PM.

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      03-17-2011 12:19 PM #66
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    17. 06-05-2011 12:47 PM #67
      heres a tricky one...i read along time ago that a g60 isv will release boost at high psi rateing over 10 psi?????anyone if this is truth.cant remmember where i read it but a long time ago everyone was putting check valves to stop it from bleeding out boost. any info would be great .]

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