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    Thread: ROZAP? Civilian pulls a cop over

    1. 10-20-2014 11:16 PM #1


      I saw someone posted this on the internet:

      From RCW 46.08.065

      It is unlawful for any public officer having charge of any vehicle owned or controlled by any county, city, town, or public body in this state other than the state of Washington and used in public business to operate the same upon the public highways of this state unless and until there shall be displayed upon such automobile or other motor vehicle in letters of contrasting color not less than one and one-quarter inches in height in a conspicuous place on the right and left sides thereof, the name of such county, city, town, or other public body, together with the name of the department or office upon the business of which the said vehicle is used.
      So basically it means out of state cars have to be marked, and this is not about WA owned/operated cars?

      I don't comprehend legal, can someone explain?

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      10-20-2014 11:40 PM #2
      That cop:


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      10-20-2014 11:42 PM #3
      WARNING: Do not try this if youre black, like me. We'd probably get shot or arrested for trying some **** like this especially if we were recording it
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      10-20-2014 11:48 PM #4
      Lucky for this tool that cop was having a good day and seemed incredibly patient with this man's stupidity. Does he really not have other responsibilities to take care of?

      What I've been told, is that if you are ever unsure about the legitimacy of who is pulling you over, either drive to a police station or call 911 and ask..problem solved, none of this stupid "officer citizen" white knight BS
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      10-20-2014 11:52 PM #5
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      WARNING: Do not try this if youre black, like me. We'd probably get shot or arrested for trying some **** like this especially if we were recording it
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      10-21-2014 12:15 AM #6
      Funny how selective quoting works, the sentence right after where the original quote stopped:

      From RCW 46.08.065
      This section shall not apply to vehicles of a sheriff's office, local police department, or any vehicles used by local peace officers under public authority for special undercover or confidential investigative purposes.
      and subsection (3) states
      Subsection (2) of this section shall not apply to vehicles used by the Washington state patrol for general undercover or confidential investigative purposes. Traffic control vehicles of the Washington state patrol may be exempted from the requirements of subsection (2) of this section at the discretion of the chief of the Washington state patrol. The *department of general administration shall adopt general rules permitting other exceptions to the requirements of subsection (2) of this section for other vehicles used for law enforcement...

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      10-21-2014 12:24 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Nuieve View Post

      So basically it means out of state cars have to be marked, and this is not about WA owned/operated cars?

      I don't comprehend legal, can someone explain?

      It means that RCW 46.08.065 does not apply to Washington State owned vehicles, but does apply to city/town/local/county/etc owned vehicles.

    8. 10-21-2014 12:34 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by wuman82 View Post
      It means that RCW 46.08.065 does not apply to Washington State owned vehicles, but does apply to city/town/local/county/etc owned vehicles.
      Aha!!! Got it!


    9. 10-21-2014 12:35 AM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by IridiumB6 View Post
      Lucky for this tool that cop was having a good day and seemed incredibly patient with this man's stupidity. Does he really not have other responsibilities to take care of?

      What I've been told, is that if you are ever unsure about the legitimacy of who is pulling you over, either drive to a police station or call 911 and ask..problem solved, none of this stupid "officer citizen" white knight BS
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    10. 10-21-2014 12:42 AM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      WARNING: Do not try this if youre black, like me.
      What if we're some other kinda black?
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      10-21-2014 01:20 AM #12
      It's just silly that the cop played his game. There are unmarked cars everywhere now.
      The guy is such a tool with his we the people bulls**t.

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      10-21-2014 01:46 AM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by JerseyVR View Post
      It's just silly that the cop played his game. There are unmarked cars everywhere now.
      The guy is such a tool with his we the people bulls**t.
      The car being unmarked, in a traffic control/patrol use is illegal by WA state law. So, while he's right, Mr. super citizen really needs to find something better to spend his time on. It is pretty simple, if an unmarked vehicle tries to pull you over, and you doubt it at all, just keep driving, eventually marked units will show up... and probably felony stop you but at least you know they're cops.

      I would laugh in his face for this if I was the deputy, and tell him to call the sheriff, they DO NOT write each other tickets in this state, it just doesn't happen. They're not going to arrest each other either. There was just a big hoopla about staters on the way to a conference running 80-100mph down I-90. WSP's Speed enforcement plane kept picking them up, and ground units continually would get ready to bust em only to see it was another LEO and wave em by. I'm sure since it made the news that there was a memo about slowing the f-down since they were on camera but nobody got a ticket and I'm sure a good laugh was had by all.
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      10-21-2014 04:05 AM #14
      Damn, that guy is a ****. I hate people like that. He thinks he's saving WA state of all police wrongdoing. Get a grip


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      10-21-2014 09:23 AM #15
      his voice was cracking the whole time, like a teenager. this guy was scared for his life, but kept at it for youtube fame. good going dude, you accomplished nothing today.

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      10-21-2014 10:32 AM #16
      Well, to be fair, when I was living in Wqashington state, there were numerous cases of people impersonating police officers and giving "tickets" to people and demanding payment on the spot, or names and numbers of women. They were in unmarked cars with the wig wag lights and blue lights in the grille but wearing semi official looking uniforms. Last one got caught by pulling over an off duty police officer.

      So yeah, there's a bit of a stink about getting pulled over by an unmarked car, especially if it isn't standard police issue.
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      10-21-2014 10:39 AM #17
      This a complete and utter exercise in stupidity. Whats the point?

      Legal or not, this is a great example of how just because something may be allowed, doesn't make it right.

      That cop is unbelievable chill and hilarious.

      Camerman is neckbeard pining for Youtube views.

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      10-21-2014 10:57 AM #18
      Guy is stupid, trying to make the LEO guilty. LEO was so chill, actually he is the good guy in the video IMO,
      while the bearded tool made a mockery of himself.

    19. 10-21-2014 11:03 AM #19
      While I do find the video silly, I do commend him for not being the 99% of population today and seeing something wrong and actually confronting the issue instead of resorting to the Internet to complain all while creating some stupid Facebook post of "Like this post to change the law dee ta dee!!!1!"

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      10-21-2014 11:37 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by madrussian View Post
      This a complete and utter exercise in stupidity. Whats the point?

      Legal or not, this is a great example of how just because something may be allowed, doesn't make it right.

      That cop is unbelievable chill and hilarious.

      Camerman is neckbeard pining for Youtube views.
      You are right.
      I'd like to add, that just because something is not allowed, doesn't mean it's wrong.
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      10-21-2014 11:55 AM #21
      that guy needs a job if he has this time much to worry about stupid **** like this.

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      10-21-2014 11:58 AM #22
      we're in The Cop Lounge now? wheres all the bacon haters?
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    23. 10-21-2014 12:06 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by RacerrRex View Post
      WARNING: Do not try this if youre black, like me. We'd probably get shot or arrested for trying some **** like this especially if we were recording it
      Hahahahaha That's always the first thing I think when I see stuff like this. "I could never do that".


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      10-21-2014 12:14 PM #24
      Looks like a cop car to me, oh noes! where are your lights!?

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      10-21-2014 01:28 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by JerseyVR View Post
      The guy is such a tool with his we the people bulls**t.
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      10-21-2014 09:49 PM #26
      Nothing like wasting the cop's time. He could be out fighting crime instead of playing games.

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      10-21-2014 10:21 PM #27
      Is this 'We the People' B.S. a uniquely American thing? I can't see this happening in the UK or Canada or France or Australia etc...
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      10-21-2014 10:46 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Is this 'We the People' B.S. a uniquely American thing? I can't see this happening in the UK or Canada or France or Australia etc...
      Well, yes, and to a point it's a healthy attitude to have. I mean, for one thing, the thread title bothers me. Police are civilians by definition. They are civilian agents of the state, they are not military or para-military (unless they are MPs, with jurisdiction over a military facility). This is a critical distinction and exactly why people get hinky when police roll up with MRAPs.

      But, there is a point when people who have no real grievance with the police (other than feeling 'harassed' about things like traffic enforcement) start to portray themselves as oppressed and pull stunts like this. You want to talk about police abuse, focusing on traffic enforcement just shows how naive this guy is; if being nuisanced by traffic enforcement is the only interaction with police you have you live a privileged life.
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    29. 10-22-2014 12:02 AM #29
      I am reminded of this commercial:

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      10-22-2014 12:42 AM #30
      I was hoping for someone just having a good time with a cop but that dude is a dick basket. Someone should swipe his video and scoop all his hits. Clown.
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      10-22-2014 01:08 AM #31
      I never even understood his original complaint. Unmarked cop cars have to be marked or something? What was he even getting at?

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      10-22-2014 01:11 AM #32
      Quote Originally Posted by jnm2.0t View Post
      I was hoping for someone just having a good time with a cop but that dude is a dick basket.
      Hadn't heard that phrase before. Had to look it up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Hadn't heard that phrase before. Had to look it up.
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      10-22-2014 03:33 AM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      I never even understood his original complaint. Unmarked cop cars have to be marked or something? What was he even getting at?

      I'd like to know this as well.
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      10-22-2014 06:37 AM #35
      The cameraman is the biggest douche. If he had bothered to read the next sentence, he would see that the popo are exempt. That cop was very patient. Good job douche cameraman, you just showed how cool cops can be while at the same time, showing how dumb you are.


      RCW 46.08.065
      Publicly owned vehicles to be marked — Exceptions.


      (1) It is unlawful for any public officer having charge of any vehicle owned or controlled by any county, city, town, or public body in this state other than the state of Washington and used in public business to operate the same upon the public highways of this state unless and until there shall be displayed upon such automobile or other motor vehicle in letters of contrasting color not less than one and one-quarter inches in height in a conspicuous place on the right and left sides thereof, the name of such county, city, town, or other public body, together with the name of the department or office upon the business of which the said vehicle is used. This section shall not apply to vehicles of a sheriff's office, local police department, or any vehicles used by local peace officers under public authority for special undercover or confidential investigative purposes. This subsection shall not apply to: (a) Any municipal transit vehicle operated for purposes of providing public mass transportation; (b) any vehicle governed by the requirements of subsection (4) of this section; nor to (c) any motor vehicle on loan to a school district for driver training purposes. It shall be lawful and constitute compliance with the provisions of this section, however, for the governing body of the appropriate county, city, town, or public body other than the state of Washington or its agencies to adopt and use a distinctive insignia which shall be not less than six inches in diameter across its smallest dimension and which shall be displayed conspicuously on the right and left sides of the vehicle. Such insignia shall be in a color or colors contrasting with the vehicle to which applied for maximum visibility. The name of the public body owning or operating the vehicle shall also be included as part of or displayed above such approved insignia in colors contrasting with the vehicle in letters not less than one and one-quarter inches in height. Immediately below the lettering identifying the public entity and agency operating the vehicle or below an approved insignia shall appear the words "for official use only" in letters at least one inch high in a color contrasting with the color of the vehicle. The appropriate governing body may provide by rule or ordinance for marking of passenger motor vehicles as prescribed in subsection (2) of this section or for exceptions to the marking requirements for local governmental agencies for the same purposes and under the same circumstances as permitted for state agencies under subsection (3) of this section.

      (2) Except as provided by subsections (3) and (4) of this section, passenger motor vehicles owned or controlled by the state of Washington, and purchased after July 1, 1989, must be plainly and conspicuously marked on the lower left-hand corner of the rear window with the name of the operating agency or institution or the words "state motor pool," as appropriate, the words "state of Washington -- for official use only," and the seal of the state of Washington or the appropriate agency or institution insignia, approved by the *department of general administration. Markings must be on a transparent adhesive material and conform to the standards established by the *department of general administration. For the purposes of this section, "passenger motor vehicles" means sedans, station wagons, vans, light trucks, or other motor vehicles under ten thousand pounds gross vehicle weight.

      (3) Subsection (2) of this section shall not apply to vehicles used by the Washington state patrol for general undercover or confidential investigative purposes. Traffic control vehicles of the Washington state patrol may be exempted from the requirements of subsection (2) of this section at the discretion of the chief of the Washington state patrol. The *department of general administration shall adopt general rules permitting other exceptions to the requirements of subsection (2) of this section for other vehicles used for law enforcement, confidential public health work, and public assistance fraud or support investigative purposes, for vehicles leased or rented by the state on a casual basis for a period of less than ninety days, and those provided for in **RCW 46.08.066(3). The exceptions in this subsection, subsection (4) of this section, and those provided for in **RCW 46.08.066(3) shall be the only exceptions permitted to the requirements of subsection (2) of this section.

      (4) Any motorcycle, vehicle over 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight, or other vehicle that for structural reasons cannot be marked as required by subsection (1) or (2) of this section that is owned or controlled by the state of Washington or by any county, city, town, or other public body in this state and used for public purposes on the public highways of this state shall be conspicuously marked in letters of a contrasting color with the words "State of Washington" or the name of such county, city, town, or other public body, together with the name of the department or office that owns or controls the vehicle.

      (5) All motor vehicle markings required under the terms of this chapter shall be maintained in a legible condition at all times.

      [1998 c 111 § 4; 1989 c 57 § 9; 1975 1st ex.s. c 169 § 1; 1961 c 12 § 46.08.065. Prior: 1937 c 189 § 46; RRS § 6360-46. Formerly RCW 46.36.140.]

      Notes:
      Reviser's note: *(1) The "department of general administration" was renamed the "department of enterprise services" by 2011 1st sp.s. c 43 § 107.

      **(2) RCW 46.08.066 was amended by 2010 c 161 § 211, deleting subsection (3), effective July 1, 2011. RCW 46.08.066 is the appropriate reference.

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