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    1. Member Sepp's Avatar
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      01-31-2015 04:12 AM #1
      Since I love to read of the projects by other members of the CL, I figured I'd post mine.

      Cliff notes.
      -The quattro is my all time favorite car ever.
      -I have been obsessed with them since I was 10 years old (1981)
      -Owned this car since 2001 and did a very quick refresh on it when I first bought it.

      What the car looked like new. (not mine, but same/same)



      What it looked like when I bought it.



      The final result of the refresh.



      I drove it daily, year round for 9 years, and then took it off the road to do a proper overhaul.

      It made several trips across the country, all without any issues.



      I have a long list of issues I want to rectify with the car.

      Puled out the original carpet, as the heater core was leaking...and to check for rust.



      I had the car torn way down, and had to move across country with a few weeks notice.
      So, I quickly put the car back together, painted it so it wouldn't rust and put it into storage.
      It sat in storage for quite a good number of years.

      And it's finally back.
      The restoration continues!!!




      The rust on/around the B pillar is a bit of a Pandoras Box..
      All of that was hiding underneath the carpet.
      Luckily, it can be all fixed and sealed...and hide under the carpet again!
      The car has had a few misplaced jack incidents, and the seam of where the fender/rocker meet the floor was split allowing water/salt to get in the seam, rusting it out from the outside, in.




      Found a small spec of rot just forward of the B pillar...due to likely the same culprit.
      Just like the B pillar issue, I will need to cut out the section from the outside of the car to ensure I get all of the rust.



      The final sections of sound deadener was chipped off the transmission tunnel. I cleaned it up, and it now has new paint, as well as most of the rear drivers side footwell.

      Last edited by Sepp; 05-07-2016 at 02:25 PM.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      01-31-2015 08:35 AM #2
      In!

      I've never seen a restoration on a Quattro before. Can you get sheet metal? I find that good quality pre stamped pieces make it 10X easier, even if I'm only using a small portion of the stamping... As I like my patches to be as small as practical, even if the replacement is the entire panel.

      How is it mechanically?

      Good luck!
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      01-31-2015 09:52 AM #3
      Awesome stuff! Keep us posted on progress.

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      01-31-2015 02:11 PM #4
      Thanks!
      Mechanically it's in awesome shape.
      The engine was rebuilt/upgraded and the clutch was replaced when I bought it.
      Even though I drove it as much as I did. I didn't put a heck of a lot of miles on it

      Sheet metal is nearly impossible to find for the car.
      The rear fenders have some small holes, which hopefully should be easily patched up.
      The interior spots will be covered with sound deadner and carpet..away from view..so looks won't be a major issue.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      01-31-2015 02:16 PM #5
      I scored a perfect set of door pockets, as well as NLA windshield gasket and door seal!



      I spent a few hours sorting through the boxes of parts. I remember where most of them go.



      Heater core parts came in!


      Now was a great time to change it out, as all of the crap was out of the way.





      The leak was sooo bad, not much coolant came out.



      Outta here you leaky beyotch!



      Swapped out the firewall grommet!



      I did a minor repair on one of the european spec trunk pieces.

      Here's a pic of the stock U.S. spec trunk trim.



      And a shot of the euro trim.



      Getting the car prepped for a visit from a mobile automobile welding business.
      Removed the front fenders so the A pillar sections below the hood line can be welded.





      There was a little bit of rust in the cover section under the front passenger side fender.
      The rust has been removed and will be welded back into place. (It's currently flipped up just above the tire)





      And also repair a badly repaired (in the past) upper fender mount)





      Even though both A pillar sections below the hood line had rust holes, only the drivers side had some additional rust holes in the area just behind that.
      So, it's been cut out, and will get cleaned up and repaired.





      While I was getting rid of the last pieces of carpet padding up under the footwell in the dashboard area, I noticed some hydraulic fluid on the actuator arm boot of the clutch master cylinder....on a positive note, it's a great time to change it out as everything is out of the way!!





      Most of the floorpan and the transmission tunnel are nice and shiny black!! Can't paint anymore until some holes are patched.





      I cut out a section of where the drivers side rear fender meets the rocker panel, meets the floor pan. The piece is upside down in the shot, but one can see the lip on the left is badly damaged by unfortunate jacking. The lip split away from the matched lip on the floor pan. The seam became vulnerable to water, snow, salt, etc and rusted from the inside the seam, up into the fender, rocker panel and the floor pan. All of this went on for decades unnoticed underneath carpet and paint.





      With that piece cut out, I was able to see the horrific state of the rusty area from the backside. On the left of the photo is what's left of where the B pillar meets the floor pan and frame rail. lower right is the battery box.
      One can see where the rust had crept upwards from the floor pan lip.
      As bad as that looks, that is the worst spot on the car. And fixable. And will be out of site once completed.

      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

    6. 01-31-2015 02:36 PM #6
      Looks like a 1984 ?

      That's a big project you got yourself into.

      I often wonder how many of these cars are left in North America.

      Of the 600 - 700 sold total 30 years ago, the lack of appreciation and lack of parts and support I would think the survival rate is low.

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      01-31-2015 02:36 PM #7
      Awesome project on an awesome car!

      Are you going for euro-bumpers? (based on the euro-turnsignals in the cardbox..)

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      01-31-2015 02:41 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by fahrvergnugenvw View Post
      Looks like a 1984 ?

      That's a big project you got yourself into.

      I often wonder how many of these cars are left in North America.

      Of the 600 - 700 sold total 30 years ago, the lack of appreciation and lack of parts and support I would think the survival rate is low.
      Agreed. Keep it up, op!
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      01-31-2015 03:54 PM #9
      This is awesome. My buddy had one of these around 2000/2001, a 10V non turbo iirc. Thing would top out at 100 mph because of the rev limiter in 5th gear. Took ages to find the relais that controlled the rev limit but in the end it was a 10 ct capacitor and it flew after that. It actually flew out of a corner somewhere in Germany and that was the end of that car. Looking forward to the updates!
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      01-31-2015 04:58 PM #10
      Awesome, paint looks a bit rough in some spots though.
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      01-31-2015 04:59 PM #11
      For doing this:


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      01-31-2015 06:06 PM #12
      Sepp! Wow, good to see you are restoring that old girl. I still remember following the thread where you rattlecan sprayed it red, and now you're giving her a proper resto. I still have my Coupe quattro (if you remember) and is also restoring it at the time.
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      01-31-2015 08:46 PM #13
      Thanks everyone for the kind words,

      To answer some questions.

      U.S. sales figures for the urq 1983-1986
      Officially, the urq was first for sale in 1982, but it was low key.
      1983 was the first year that Audi made it known that they were available

      Between '1982 and '1983, 525 cars were sold.
      In '1984 65 cars were sold.
      In '1985 73 cars were sold.
      In 1986 1 car was sold.

      There are a few folks that have kept track of all the quattros in the US and Canada.
      I've been keeping tabs on the 1985 cars, of which I know that 50 still exist in the US. (not all run, or are on the road)

      My car is an '85, but was in an accident before I bought it, so they had to install earlier headlamp surrounds since the '85/86 cars had unique angled surrounds and just cannot be found.
      I have since upgraded to european h1/h4's.

      I do plan to do european bumpers when I can find a decent set, at a reasonable price.

      The paint is rough. I had it nearly all down to bare metal, and was deployed last minute, so I hastily sprayed the car white and threw it into storage.

      Good to hear from you PerL! Best of luck with your car, much more rare than the quatty.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
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      01-31-2015 09:00 PM #14
      I was able to remove all of the rubberized coating in the drivers side wheel well to ensure that there was no rust hiding anywhere.
      It was nice and clean underneath.
      A shot of self etching primer and it's good to go for a little while.



      I did the same for the inside area of the front fenders.



      Both A pillar holes patched!!!!






      Both front wheel wells and the elephant ears have all of the original coating removed..everything welded and sealed and primed!!!




      The small holes on the floor are done.



      And I dismounted the Ronals so I can give them an overhaul. The OE sized NLA tires are nearly perfect.



      And the post man delivered some great motivational reading material.



      Working on the rear wheel wells, and working around the struts for now, until they get pulled.



      And removing all of the coating from the under side of the car.
      A nice, sharp wood chisel works amazing for the flat spots.



      And, the end of the line, rust-wise. The forward lower section of the rear wheel well on the drivers side.
      This notch is normally filled in with sealant..as you can see, rust has crept up, into the joined pieces of metal.
      It was all sealed up with rubber from the factory, and looked fine before I started exploring.



      A first coat of enamel in the front wheel wells



      And on the inside of the front fenders.

      Last edited by Sepp; 02-28-2015 at 05:55 PM.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      01-31-2015 09:13 PM #15
      Love this!

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      01-31-2015 09:36 PM #16
      now i've Sub'd both your threads

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      01-31-2015 09:38 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Ermegerd View Post
      now i've Sub'd both your threads


      The ur quattro lounge has been downgraded to 2 lawn chairs and some moldy wicker furniture.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      01-31-2015 09:42 PM #18
      The car has been moved inside.
      Trying to restore a car in the winter time, in the North West is way better than The North East...but I cannot wait anymore for rain breaks.



      Since there's still much welding to be done on the car,
      Bought a new MIG welder last week, have already been using the crap out of it.



      Started clearing out the engine compartment, to make room for a belt/pump replacement.
      There' not much space between the cam belt cover and the radiator support!



      The quattros come with two radiators.
      Most folks remove and bypass the aux unit.
      Mine is completely knackered.
      I knew is was in rough shape, but it still held coolant!!!!!



      When I removed the cam belt cover, I was happy to see the belt still looked like new! (it was last replaced in 2002)



      All looked good at first, but I noticed some coolant residue built up behind the rear cover!



      The radiator came out without much trouble.
      And after soaking the fittings with break free, I was able to crack lose the brake lines from the master cylinder and the proportioning valve.
      They are original, and will be replaced.



      Making a pile of items to be anodized again!



      The remnants of the radiator side cowling, I will make a piece out of lexan to replace it.



      My place was looking a bit like a scrap yard.



      The Ronals are nearly stripped. I'll bead blast the final bits of paint off.



      The radiator pulled, and stripped.
      Ready to be blasted!
      Luckily the rubber flappy thing has fared well over the years.




      Pulled the brake master cylinder, and found some bleed by.



      Pulled off the water temp inlet off the head and..... f*#@. Snapped off a bolt into the head...



      2 hours later....



      The original brake proportioning valve has seen better days, but still worked well before I took it off.



      PS pump ready to get refreshed.



      And the brake master cylinder tank was able to be removed in one piece!



      Ronal Porn....literally.
      After 2 hours in the blast machine, here it is...naked!!!!
      I wish the other 3 were in this good of condition.

      Last edited by Sepp; 03-01-2015 at 01:51 AM.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      01-31-2015 09:42 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Sepp View Post


      The ur quattro lounge has been downgraded to 2 lawn chairs and some moldy wicker furniture.
      ahah! Seriously though, you make me wanna punch myself.

    20. 01-31-2015 10:03 PM #20
      Ermegerd lets see a picture of your Quattro ?

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      01-31-2015 10:50 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Sepp View Post
      The car has been moved inside.
      Trying to restore a car in the winter time, in the North West is way better than The North East...but I cannot wait anymore for rain breaks.


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      Two wide fender

      Please keep updates coming

      Oh...and blur the plates, that is my friend's car.

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      01-31-2015 11:56 PM #22
      Took care of the surface rust on the stamped in VIN on the engine firewall.



      Starting the primer coat in the engine bay.



      Getting rid of the random patches of surface rust.





      Airbox is out! making room to pull the intake system.



      The intercooler has suffered the common issue of a broken mounting tab. New ones will be installed.





      VERY much looking forward to getting this looking better.



      Bottom section the airbox. Freeing up the clips that frequently freeze up.

      Last edited by Sepp; 03-01-2015 at 01:37 AM.
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      02-01-2015 12:05 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by Ermegerd View Post
      ahah! Seriously though, you make me wanna punch myself.

      Save your blood sweat and tears for your project!
      If you have a 5 cylinder, you don't need a stereo.

      What is a Homologation car you ask?
      http://www.fia.com/list-previously-homologated-cars

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      02-01-2015 12:37 AM #24
      Cannot wait to see this come together!

      Hopefully I'll be able to get my '84 4000SQ back to its former glory some day.
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      02-01-2015 12:54 AM #25
      Yay Sepp!

      (I still should have bought that Type 44 you sold lo these many years ago.)

      Glad to see the ur-Q is still around and you're still working on it.

      I will gladly follow your progress here.

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