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      03-15-2015 05:33 PM #1


      I've been thinking about picking up a truck for a while now to help with homeowner duties. I thought hard about a new Canyon or Tacoma TRD-Pro but didn't really want to stomach the price of a new truck. So I've been checking out eBay and Craigslist for a while and came up with a decent old truck.

      A 1985 Toyota SR5 4x4 extended cab, this is a pretty rare combo. It has the fuel injected 22RE 4 cylinder, solid front axle, all the SR5 goodies and a manual transmission. The bed is a little rusty and leaf springs look tired but nothing that can't be fixed. I'm working on getting it home now, I may fly out to Montana and drive it back. Someday Jennifer, someday.




    2. 03-15-2015 05:45 PM #2
      I had a 85 and it was the best truck ever.

      I'd look into doing the timing chain and sprockets etc if they have not been done.

      The front springs may look flat, but I think they looked like that when they were new. The only decent replacement is Old Man Emu.

      Please don't cut it up into some rock crawler nonsense, that's what Wranglers are for

      My old truck


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      03-15-2015 05:55 PM #3
      Great scott!


      Great find! I dig the 2 tone.
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      03-15-2015 05:56 PM #4
      Aside from the cancer on the rear fenders, that thing looks great! Nice find!
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      03-15-2015 05:59 PM #5
      They sure aren't made like that anymore. Mini truck me please

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      03-15-2015 06:22 PM #6
      Is this better than a late 70s/ early 80s F150 (with a bigger bed and more payload) for the same money?

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      03-15-2015 06:32 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      Is this better than a late 70s/ early 80s F150 (with a bigger bed and more payload) for the same money?
      Fuel economy.
      The 4x4 Toyota probably get 16-20 mpg... the manual 4x4 F-150s (and other fullsize) get 11-16 mpg.
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      03-15-2015 06:37 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      Fuel economy.
      The 4x4 Toyota probably get 16-20 mpg... the manual 4x4 F-150s (and other fullsize) get 11-16 mpg.
      If all it is doing is "homeowner duties", who cares? Home Depot, the dump, etc... is not daily driving.

    9. 03-15-2015 06:40 PM #9
      I had a cousin of that truck for a long time ... 1984 3/4 ton long box standard cab, 2 wheel drive. 22R carbureted. Absolutely stripped out base model, vinyl bench seat, vinyl on the floor, no power steering, no air conditioning. It was a great truck except for the rust.

      The interior on the one you found looks a lot more upscale than the one I had, and it looks like it's in good shape, too. Engine compartment looks pretty good. These ought to be signs of an owner who cared for it.

      The one big issue with the 22R/22RE that became apparent with very high mileage was the timing chain and guides, as someone else mentioned. You didn't mention how much mileage is on this one. I sold mine with around 280,000 km and it was still OK, but 300,000 - 400,000 km seems to be when the timing chain guides seem to go. It will start rattling a lot before it actually fails.

      Pay really close attention to the joint where the bed floor joins the bed sides, that's where they rust very badly. The bed is only single-wall on these. My truck weighed only 1200 kg (about 2700 lbs) and used around 9 L/100 km (26 mpg US) in normal everyday driving. The 4x4 will use a bit more ...

      And yes, I would take the Toy over a similar-age F150 any day.

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      03-15-2015 06:42 PM #10


      Do we even want to know how much? I've seen these go for insane price on ebay.

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      03-15-2015 06:45 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      the manual 4x4 F-150s (and other fullsize) get 11-16 mpg.
      Isn't the 300 i6 pretty respectable with an overdrive transmission (16-20?)
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      03-15-2015 06:50 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      Is this better than a late 70s/ early 80s F150 (with a bigger bed and more payload) for the same money?
      Everyone knows those are for a$$holes.


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      03-15-2015 07:11 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      Is this better than a late 70s/ early 80s F150 (with a bigger bed and more payload) for the same money?
      IMO, No. But I'm biased.

      Quote Originally Posted by 88c900t View Post
      Isn't the 300 i6 pretty respectable with an overdrive transmission (16-20?)
      I used to pull 20-21 hwy out of my F100 with an I6 and 4 speed OD. A 4wd would probably be 18ish.
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      03-15-2015 07:27 PM #15
      I'll be that guy--why are you accumulating more vehicles while your 930 sits in pieces?
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      03-15-2015 07:58 PM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Honda_Appliance View Post
      Everyone knows those are for a$$holes.

      That video is hilarious.
      85 wheel horsepower spinning oversized off-road tires? Yeah rite.
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      03-15-2015 08:07 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Nicefeet View Post
      I had a 85 and it was the best truck ever.

      I'd look into doing the timing chain and sprockets etc if they have not been done.

      The front springs may look flat, but I think they looked like that when they were new. The only decent replacement is Old Man Emu.

      Please don't cut it up into some rock crawler nonsense, that's what Wranglers are for

      My old truck

      That is sweet!

      The timing chain was done at 150k miles.

      No crawler mods for this one. My plan is the remove the bed and tailgate and have it acid dipped to see how bad the rust really is. Then get rid of those awful tie downs and weld up all the holes. Then of course seal it and paint it and put some other type of bedliner in it. I might lose the chrome wheels and replace them with something period correct and rebuild the springs.

      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      Is this better than a late 70s/ early 80s F150 (with a bigger bed and more payload) for the same money?
      No better or worse, just different, unless you count milage. I was passed down a '77 F-150 Ranger 4x4 shortbed that my dad bought new and it was great but they are tough to find in good shape. Mine was a 351M with the C6 auto, factory air and special ordered with minimal trim. Any dentside F-150 I chase will be compared to that truck and it was a peach. I will admit to drooling over this one more than once.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MCTB View Post
      If all it is doing is "homeowner duties", who cares? Home Depot, the dump, etc... is not daily driving.
      This is true but this will be my 5th car and my MIL is taking up a parking space until her guest house is built in November. Parking the Toyota will be a little easier and I don't think I would have found an F-150 4x4 in compatible condition for what I paid.

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      Do we even want to know how much? I've seen these go for insane price on ebay.
      $5200

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      03-15-2015 08:17 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by 88c900t View Post
      Isn't the 300 i6 pretty respectable with an overdrive transmission (16-20?)
      I know for a fact a 300 I6 with a 5-speed in a (base trim) '94 4x4 will touch 20 mpg on the highway if you keep the speed down (it's not like you'll be going very fast with that motor anyways...). I made numerous trips from the Detroit area to the west end of the Upper Peninsula in said truck.

      That truck was sold to a relative with close to 200k on it. It definitely drove like an old truck that got used hard in the U.P. its entire life, and had rust in all the typical Ford spots, but it still basically ran like new. The relative in question proceeded to (get ****house drunk and then) drive it into the only tree on the front 40 of his property. I'm pretty sure it's still running, smashed front end and all.

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      03-15-2015 08:29 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      I'll be that guy
      What a surprise.

      Quote Originally Posted by Ross1013 View Post
      why are you accumulating more vehicles while your 930 sits in pieces?
      It isn't sitting, I'm working on it fairly often. This truck is also worth about what the wheels on my 930 are worth, it isn't really a stretch to make it happen. If it makes you feel better I'll place a few 930 parts in the bed of the truck when I get it and drive them up and down my driveway.

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      03-15-2015 08:33 PM #20
      I get to show off my 86 again? Yes! One of my favorite trucks



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      03-15-2015 08:36 PM #21
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      03-15-2015 09:10 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      That video is hilarious.
      85 wheel horsepower spinning oversized off-road tires? Yeah rite.
      That's why it was in reverse, there no weight over the bed. Also, was this truck the rare "Turbo" can't remember when they had that. I had a 22RE Toyota truck, and the exhaust note in that video seems suspiciously modded, stock sounds like a vacuum breathing through a straw.

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      03-15-2015 09:30 PM #23


      had the 22ret. ran like **** but was super fun.
      signatures are annoying, right?

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      03-15-2015 09:51 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Cutandthrust View Post
      That's why it was in reverse, there no weight over the bed. Also, was this truck the rare "Turbo" can't remember when they had that. I had a 22RE Toyota truck, and the exhaust note in that video seems suspiciously modded, stock sounds like a vacuum breathing through a straw.
      But that is not a Turbo.
      The Turbo said "TURBO" on the tach where that one says "X1000 RPM".

      The spinning tires while stationary for a second was typical hollywood bs.
      Had nothing to do with the performance or capabilities of the vehicle shown.
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