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    Thread: W8 Engine Swap...

    1. 03-27-2003 04:42 AM #1
      Someone should drop one of these in their golf/jettas--talk about a sleeper... ya, I know--it probably wouldn't fit.

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2408942120&category=33615



      [Modified by Chadley, 2:42 AM 3-27-2003]


    2. 03-27-2003 04:54 AM #2
      $ $

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      03-27-2003 06:12 AM #3
      put it in a fox wagon, they are set up that way and lighter too.

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      03-27-2003 07:08 AM #4
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      ya, I know--it probably wouldn't fit.

      Probably? Do you know of a trans that would allow this to be used in a transverse application? Never heard of VW having one.


    5. 03-27-2003 08:41 AM #5
      Its too heavy...It will make the handling suck...

    6. 03-27-2003 08:50 AM #6
      VAG dropped a W8 on a MkIV just to prove that it could be done. Not sure about what was involved and I'm not sure if it was done on a 4-motion platform or not but yes it was done...

      I bet they're gonna figure out a way of putting a W12 on a MkIV too


    7. 03-27-2003 09:13 AM #7
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      Its too heavy...It will make the handling suck...

      If the VR6 is too heavy (for some), can you imagine the W8?


    8. 03-27-2003 09:28 AM #8
      putting that motor in a MKIV would be pointless . just mod the VR6

    9. 03-27-2003 01:16 PM #9
      I emailed the guy who's selling it to see where he got it:

      "It came out of a car which was stolen off the VW dealer lot. The car was found a few days later with a burned interior.

      Of course it runs!!! (you have to install it first) It's brand new!! "


    10. 03-27-2003 01:31 PM #10
      If I had $8000 (plus probably $1000 for the rest of the stuff it doesnt have) I'd buy it, just imagine the sound of a MKIV W8.....or better yet MKIV W8 Turbo

    11. 03-27-2003 01:39 PM #11
      Yeah...I always wanted to drive around with my knees in my chest too

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      03-27-2003 08:46 PM #12
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      Do you know of a trans that would allow this to be used in a transverse application? Never heard of VW having one.

      A Fox, a Dasher, Quantum so far.
      they have longitudinal specs so no need to sweat on it, does recomend extreme brainstorming.


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      03-28-2003 02:01 AM #13
      quote:
      VAG dropped a W8 on a MkIV just to prove that it could be done. Not sure about what was involved and I'm not sure if it was done on a 4-motion platform or not but yes it was done...

      I bet they're gonna figure out a way of putting a W12 on a MkIV too


      This is true, they have put a W8 in an MKIV chassis and yes it was 4-motion.


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      03-28-2003 02:24 AM #14
      imgine turbo charge that biatch

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      03-28-2003 02:39 AM #15
      Go for it! How much does that bad boy weigh?

      while you're at it, how about an audi W12 into an older gen.

      FYI~not my pic and I can't remember where I found it.


      [Modified by evilpat, 11:40 PM 3-27-2003]


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      03-28-2003 03:07 AM #16
      Are you ****ing kidding me? thats rediculous!
      i wonder what that can run.....

    17. 03-28-2003 04:40 AM #17
      it's a photoshoped image...

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      03-28-2003 05:58 AM #18
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      A Fox, a Dasher, Quantum so far. they have longitudinal specs so no need to sweat on it, does recomend extreme brainstorming.

      I think you missed the point. Those trans will not fit the W8 and certainly would not handle the power/torque. There is no trans that fits the W8 in a transverse application unless VW made a few prototypes. Doubt they will sell anyone a special prototype trans they have laying around.


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      03-28-2003 06:47 AM #19
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      A Fox, a Dasher, Quantum so far. they have longitudinal specs so no need to sweat on it, does recomend extreme brainstorming.

      I think you missed the point.



      no, you did I didn't say the trans for that model would fit a W8, this is what I said "they have longitudinal specs so no need to sweat on it, does recomend extreme brainstorming.". No biggy by the time you fit that anywhere someone's trying to fit a W16 in a lupo or a polo. Placing it in the rear looks like a good idea, nothing that a steady set of hands and a tight TIG setup couldn't do.

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      03-28-2003 06:50 AM #20
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      no, you did

      OK, but anyone making this conversion will still need a transmission unless they are just making a static display car.


    21. 03-28-2003 10:55 AM #21
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      no, you did

      OK, but anyone making this conversion will still need a transmission unless they are just making a static display car.


      There is no bellhousing that would work in a transverse application. One would have to be custom made - huge money, that.


    22. 03-28-2003 10:56 AM #22
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      Its too heavy...It will make the handling suck...

      The W8 has an aluminum block and heads. It's 40lbs lighter than a 24V VR6.


    23. 03-28-2003 11:03 AM #23
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      VAG dropped a W8 on a MkIV just to prove that it could be done.

      Weren't they planning on making it a production option? I remember when they first started talking about the W8 and I saw a spy shot of a Jetta with the W8 in it.


    24. 03-28-2003 11:09 AM #24
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      Its too heavy...It will make the handling suck...

      The W8 has an aluminum block and heads. It's 40lbs lighter than a 24V VR6.


      i was wondering that! the w8 is a very compact engine for an 8-cylinder motor... brad, drop one of those into Project X...


    25. 03-28-2003 11:14 AM #25
      looking at that motor, the motor itself does not look much longer than a vr6 either.

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      03-28-2003 11:17 AM #26
      w12

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      03-28-2003 12:28 PM #27
      I said longitudinal spec ready, not transvers

    28. 03-28-2003 12:35 PM #28
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      I said longitudinal spec ready, not transvers


      Keep the I was posting in regard to the original topic - swap a W8 in your Golf or Jetta...


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      03-28-2003 01:37 PM #29
      I think that the early Jetta prototype was described as a VR8 and not a W8. A VR8 would be roughly the same length as an inline 5, but no wider than any other VR motor. There are a few I5 tranverse cars out there, so I'm sure a VR8 could be done, especially with the shortness of a trans like the dual output shaft 02M 6sp.

      The W8 is a very short engine (probably somewhere between a 3cyl and 4cyl). However, it is very wide. In a longitudinal installation like the Passat, it is a very tight squeeze width-wise in the engine bay. Now if you imagine rotating that width 90deg for transverse installation, you'll see that you'll need a very long engine bay to fit the engine. Think of how a Jetta would look with a Maxima nose on it.


    30. 03-28-2003 02:11 PM #30
      nevermind


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      03-29-2003 04:40 AM #31
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      Keep the I was posting in regard to the original topic - swap a W8 in your Golf or Jetta...

      same here, it just so happened you quoted nc gti about it and at the time you were the post nearest clicking the button. but one true thing though, that jetta is and deserving a
      brad since you're here, do you sell alcantara in a roll sufficient enough for a interior make over (jenny jones show)? spill some info regarding this. thanks dude though it's been 8 yrs i've been sober.

    32. 03-29-2003 04:57 AM #32
      Jebus! I can say I didn't think this post I started would get this much attention--for better or worse!

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      03-29-2003 06:26 AM #33
      the odds of this happening are the same odds like someone is going to try building the mk4 corrado i proposed... but its definately fun to dream

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      03-29-2003 08:22 AM #34
      quote:
      Its too heavy...It will make the handling suck...

      remove back seat and put engine there


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      03-29-2003 08:29 AM #35
      [Modified by Fantomasz, 8:29 AM 3-29-2003]


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