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    1. Member Fahrzeug's Avatar
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      05-14-2016 01:49 PM #1
      Arrival is 7/6!

      Hey everyone! I thought I would share my personal experience with importing a 25 year old vehicle from Japan with everyone here.

      After 10+ years of checking out the Japanese auctions (If you want to buy at auction, I highly recommend Derek and Paul at www.pacificcoastjdm.com) and tradecarview for cars that I’ve always dreamed of owning, one of them came available and I bought it. It just sucks we have to wait 25 years in the US. Also, the car I wanted is also a car that that doesn’t break the bank my first time doing this - If something major happens, I won't have too much invested.

      The route I took was a seller on www.tradecarview.com that is in Japan. The service they provide is very good and your funds are guaranteed to be returned to you in case something happens. My particular seller wanted to make absolutely sure that I understood the process of importing to the United States before even answering my questions about the car. I guess they get lots of people who waste their time.

      The buying process is simple. The seller sends you an invoice through the tradecarview message system, and you take the invoice to the bank and have them wire the funds directly into their bank account in Japan from your bank - My bank charged me $40 to do this. After negotiating with the seller, which was very easy and three (I guess a Toyota Century isn’t in my future) out of the four sellers responded to my inquires that I sent to them about some other cars quickly, were very straight forward with pricing, and easy to deal with. The seller will work with you. I got more high resoloution pictures and he took a video of the car running and driving showing the shifting and brief hard acceleration around their lot at the port to 60mph.

      To import this car, I am taking the cheaper route of dealing directly with a broker myself and wading through the paperwork to see how bad it really is. Thus far it really has not been that bad - However, I don’t have the car yet.

      Depending on what you are doing with the car, mine is considered “personal and informal entry.” If you do it this way, you will NOT have to pay the 2.5% duty when it gets here, and you avoid the 10,000 bond filing under “individual and personal effect.” Depending on the car, that will save you a lot of money. It has been verified by a customs officer at the port from my broker that this is true.

      My best suggestion is get a broker who responds quickly, who is close to the port, and knows everyone in the area.

      Here's what forms I was given on my end to fill out:

      - Power of attorney from the broker who is representing you, notarized.

      - Form CF3299 (Custom 3299, informal entry) $300 filing fee.

      - Form ISF-10 (Security document filled out by yourself and the seller with shipping and vessel information) $50 filing fee.

      - DOT Form HS-7 (Filled out with vehicle information) $50 filing fee.

      -EPA Form 3520-1 (Same as above) $50 filing fee.

      You may also be required to pay these fees:

      - Security fee (might depend on your broker, not sure) $40.

      - The ISF $10,000 bond is waived in my situation, but your broker can usually provide it for you for $100.

      - Wharfage (this depends on your port and how long the car is going to be there, check the Wharfage laws with your port, I’m not sure in my case yet) $?

      - Escort services onto the dock to pick up your car (this may depend on your broker) $250

      In my case, it’s the price of the car + $740 up to this point.

      This is not for the faint of heart, but with a little patience it can be done.

      It's a little rough, but for the price it's more than worth it to have something so special. It only has 108,000KM - Around 70K miles. If you are wondering about parts, they are not impossible to find. However, what you can find is costly, and long wait times from Japan. Again, patience.

      So, Here she is!








      Now we wait.
      Last edited by Fahrzeug; 06-16-2016 at 11:22 AM.

    2. 05-14-2016 02:00 PM #2
      I like this. This is good. Keep us posted.

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      05-14-2016 02:01 PM #3
      Really appreciate the cost break down - interesting stuff.

      Now, tell me a little about the car: why did you want to import this particular model?

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      05-14-2016 02:05 PM #4
      I hired someone to get me my Mitsubishi. I tried to do the import process myself like you are doing, but it was too time consuming.

      If you find a good parts company, you dont have to wait long or pay a lot for parts. I have to get most of my Mitsubishi parts from Japan, but they come in 2-3 days via regular Japan/USPS post, and the shipping is cheap. It's as easy as ordering from a US supplier.
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      05-14-2016 02:05 PM #5
      Thanks for breaking it down for us.

      Congrats with the purchase.

      I too would like to know why you chose to import one of these.
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    6. 05-14-2016 02:13 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post

      I too would like to know why you chose to import one of these.
      Me three

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      05-14-2016 02:15 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by initiation View Post
      I like this. This is good. Keep us posted.
      Thank you, I plan on it. I forgot to mention that the car is getting shipped on May 24th. I should know more this coming week from the seller.

      Quote Originally Posted by FujiTekniques View Post
      Really appreciate the cost break down - interesting stuff.

      Now, tell me a little about the car: why did you want to import this particular model?
      It's always been a mystery to me as to exactly what it costs to do this, I could never find anyone who would give a straight answer.

      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      Thanks for breaking it down for us.

      Congrats with the purchase.

      I too would like to know why you chose to import one of these.
      Quote Originally Posted by KARMANN_20V View Post
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      Thanks everyone!

      I've always loved the JDM 80's and 90's VIP platform cars that we never got in the states, and the Gran Turismo version of the Cedric/Gloria is the best looking in my opinion. Basically it's just a matter of personal preference.

      Also, It's hard to argue with that awesome B-Pillarless (is that even a word? ) look.

      Check out this video of how the windows roll down. It's a Y30 but the same setup:
      https://youtu.be/1O4pwG4wIXc?t=36s
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      05-14-2016 05:54 PM #8
      This is awesome! Thank you for going into so much detail.

      Love the car.
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      05-14-2016 06:15 PM #9
      Wow congrats!

      Found mine:
      https://www.tradecarview.com/used_ca...iser/18646558/







      I want it
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      05-14-2016 06:33 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post
      I hired someone to get me my Mitsubishi. I tried to do the import process myself like you are doing, but it was too time consuming.

      If you find a good parts company, you dont have to wait long or pay a lot for parts. I have to get most of my Mitsubishi parts from Japan, but they come in 2-3 days via regular Japan/USPS post, and the shipping is cheap. It's as easy as ordering from a US supplier.
      Nice, who do you use over there?

      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      This is awesome! Thank you for going into so much detail.

      Love the car.
      Thank you. As I said earlier, I never was able to figure out how to do it or how much it really costs. I thought it would be nice that someone finally give the details.

      Quote Originally Posted by rsj0714 View Post
      Wow congrats!

      Found mine:
      https://www.tradecarview.com/used_ca...iser/18646558/







      I want it
      Thank you. That's an awesome Land Cruiser! Any generation of those are pretty much the only SUV I would ever get caught driving.

      You will become addicted to that site. The funniest thing is some of these cars are so reasonably priced you can afford to buy a RHD daily. I am possibly in the future thinking about picking up a 90-92 Nissan Primera (Infiniti G20) Those have the sweet N/A SR20.

      Something like this:

      https://www.tradecarview.com/used_ca...mera/18418267/


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    11. 05-14-2016 06:46 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Fahrzeug View Post
      Thank you, I plan on it. I forgot to mention that the car is getting shipped on May 24th. I should know more this coming week from the seller.



      It's always been a mystery to me as to exactly what it costs to do this, I could never find anyone who would give a straight answer.





      Thanks everyone!

      I've always loved the JDM 80's and 90's VIP platform cars that we never got in the states, and the Gran Turismo version of the Cedric/Gloria is the best looking in my opinion. Basically it's just a matter of personal preference.

      Also, It's hard to argue with that awesome B-Pillarless (is that even a word? ) look.

      Check out this video of how the windows roll down. It's a Y30 but the same setup:
      https://youtu.be/1O4pwG4wIXc?t=36s
      I am also a big fan of sedans, more than any other body styles so I think we're on the same page

      Congrats and good luck with the car, it surely is a unique one

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      05-14-2016 06:51 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Fahrzeug View Post
      Nice, who do you use over there?
      Yokohama Motors, not sure they carry Nissan. You can call them and ask though. Everyone there speaks excellent English.
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      05-14-2016 07:19 PM #13
      Quote Originally Posted by KARMANN_20V View Post
      I am also a big fan of sedans, more than any other body styles so I think we're on the same page

      Congrats and good luck with the car, it surely is a unique one
      Thanks again, it sounds like we both have a strange taste in cars!

      Quote Originally Posted by GoHomePossum View Post
      Yokohama Motors, not sure they carry Nissan. You can call them and ask though. Everyone there speaks excellent English.
      It looks like they might be able to source other makes, thanks!

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      05-14-2016 07:34 PM #14
      I see a pajero mini in my future, those prices are to good, and 90s Lancer evo

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gromel View Post
      I see a pajero mini in my future, those prices are to good, and 90s Lancer evo
      6 more years and I can bring in a Pajero Evolution.

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      05-14-2016 08:13 PM #16
      Thanks for posting this! Any clue what shipping costs will be like?

      Just when I got done fantasizing about importing a 25-year Defender 90 or 110 diesel from the UK, my wife piped up "you know, I'd really like to have a defender..."

      She might even have a family friend who can hook us up with one.. so I wouldn't be surprised if I find myself going through this same process sometime in the next year or two.

      I also really want a diesel manual trans 80 series Land Cruiser. I guess it'll have to be one or the other.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Fahrzeug View Post
      Seems like a lot of work, when you probably could have tracked down a clean Supra-powered Toyota Cressida in the US instead.
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    18. 05-14-2016 09:46 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      Seems like a lot of work, when you probably could have tracked down a clean Supra-powered Toyota Cressida in the US instead.
      This is one of those things that most folks just would not get. It looks like a 1st gen Mazda 929 to me in the pics. But.... I'd definitely notice this on the street. Especially if he drops it a bit (?) It's cool because YOU can't have it. Hopefully, it doesn't matter to him that you don't want it.

      I am really grateful that he is taking the time and effort to document this process. I bet trying to figure this out via google search is a bit maddening.

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      05-14-2016 10:22 PM #19
      *cough*Canada*cough*

      15 year rule FTW.


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      05-14-2016 10:41 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      Seems like a lot of work, when you probably could have tracked down a clean Supra-powered Toyota Cressida in the US instead.
      But then you'd just have a Toyota Cressida with big bumpers and sliding seatbelts. I actually like MX83's, but they're nothing special.

      Whereas if you import a Nissan Cedric Gran Turismo SV Turbo, you will NEVER encounter another one on the road. Hell, I had never even heard of the "Gran Turismo" version of the Cedric before this thread. I think it's an inspired choice--an oddball car like this would be welcome at any "Cars and Coffee" type variety meet anywhere in the country
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      Quote Originally Posted by hushypushy View Post
      But then you'd just have a Toyota Cressida with big bumpers and sliding seatbelts. I actually like MX83's, but they're nothing special.

      Whereas if you import a Nissan Cedric Gran Turismo SV Turbo, you will NEVER encounter another one on the road. Hell, I had never even heard of the "Gran Turismo" version of the Cedric before this thread. I think it's an inspired choice--an oddball car like this would be welcome at any "Cars and Coffee" type variety meet anywhere in the country
      Agree. And having now owned a RHD import, I can attest to the fact that people go bananas over stuff like this, even if it's some ****ty Jeep or a beat 1980s econosedan. OP can take his car to just about any meet or show, and people will push past classic Porsches, concours-level Lincolns, blown Corvettes and stanced VWs....just to see why your steering wheel is on the wrong side and to look at something they've never heard of.
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      05-14-2016 11:27 PM #22
      I like the c pillar shape on this model. Very nice sedan styling!

    23. 05-15-2016 12:15 AM #23
      congrats!!! sucks for us out here in cali where the 15 year rule does not apply

      GL and keep the thread going with updates please!!

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      05-15-2016 12:17 AM #24
      Is this similar to that Infiniti model that debuted with the first Q45?

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      05-15-2016 12:25 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by gonzo08452 View Post
      Is this similar to that Infiniti model that debuted with the first Q45?
      The Infiniti M30? If so, they're related. The M30 was an F31/Y31 Nissan Leopard; which was related pretty closely to this Y31 Cedric; The Leopard at that point was -basically- a two-door Cedric.
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