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    Thread: The G60 Rebuilder Rating Thread

    1. Member beckyg60's Avatar
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      11-21-2008 09:24 AM #126
      Any thoughts on OEM vs OE spec rebuild (already decided on BBM)? I'm all about keeping originality, but, does it really matter?

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      12-04-2008 03:49 PM #127
      Quote, originally posted by beckyg60 »
      Any thoughts on OEM vs OE spec rebuild (already decided on BBM)? I'm all about keeping originality, but, does it really matter?

      Ok, so the OEM VAG Goetze oil seals are a little tougher, stiffer or better material and better geometry. From what I have seen I believe that they do last longer and they are after all true OEM... so they cost more. Thank you for your business
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    3. 03-20-2009 06:36 PM #128
      Quote, originally posted by SaabFan »
      ...Please post in this thread to allow others to know about your experiences, good or bad, with rebuilders you've worked with...

      I sent off my KK Stg IV to be inspected to 'da crew at BBM. A place you just feel there is a real sense of teamwork and pride. And I was gladly confirmed of my intuition!
      March 19th
      My KK Stg IV arrives at the BBM workshop to have Mark view and diagnose the blower. Not good, displacer has bits missing out of it and the apex was definitely not going well. I guess this is the reason for the 7.5 psi on my gauge? Missing bits was allowing the air to whisp past and then the apex was being spit out in pieces making the displacer useless. I spoke up, "I have the original g-lader from the car, can we use that?" Mark said we would need to know what generation it is and go from there. It was a match! They are going to combine with best parts and upgraded parts into a single unit.
      The Mark helped me feel very confident in his knowledge as well as the history BBM carries in the field, not talking over anyone's head and being straight forward to me, courteous and informative.
      I know with the attitude and positive communications like this, BBM is the correct choice to have my blower taken! BBM is off to a very, very good start in my book.

    4. 04-03-2009 11:38 PM #129
      Rebuild Services: Charger 1 '04
      1) Who did you send your charger to for a rebuild?
      KK
      2) What was the turnaround time? i.e., how many days from when you sent it out did you get it back?
      2 1/2 weeks
      3) What rebuild services did you have performed? Standard rebuild, performance options, paint, etc.
      stage 4 plus paint
      4) Were any repairs needed at the time of rebuild, such as apex strip groove repairs?
      no displacer was in perfect condition
      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) In General, are you happy with the quality of materials/workmanship?
      not very happy as the charger blew an oil seal the first second it hit boost....the paint was nice
      2) Are you happy with the rebuilder's customer service?sure dave is fun to talk to
      3) Was there an improvement in charger performance (i.e. boost level) as a result of the rebuild, or as a result of the performance upgrades? no
      4) Did the rebuild come with a warranty? If so, have you had to return the charger for warranty work? If not, why not?
      charger was returned 4 or 5 times each time it blew an oil seal within minutes of it hitting boost dave finally stopped warrantying it and blamed motorteknik for installing the wrong size seal(even though the charger was running great before he touched it)
      Overall Rating:
      1) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of work.0
      2) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of customer service.7

      Rebuild Services:
      KK '07
      1) Who did you send your charger to for a rebuild?
      KK(i know slow learner)
      2) What was the turnaround time? i.e., how many days from when you sent it out did you get it back?
      2-3 weeks
      3) What rebuild services did you have performed? Standard rebuild, performance options, paint, etc.
      stage three
      4) Were any repairs needed at the time of rebuild, such as apex strip groove repairs?minor displacer repair
      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) In General, are you happy with the quality of materials/workmanship?
      nope charger never developed over 8psi
      2) Are you happy with the rebuilder's customer service?
      no i was yelled at in an email
      3) Was there an improvement in charger performance (i.e. boost level) as a result of the rebuild, or as a result of the performance upgrades?
      no charger developed 7-8psi for a month now is down to 6psi
      4) Did the rebuild come with a warranty? If so, have you had to return the charger for warranty work? If not, why not?
      im not sending it back im tired of paying hundreds of dollars in shipping to have my charger come back to me no better off then when i sent it out i will be using BBM for all of my supercharger needs
      Overall Rating:
      1) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of work.0
      2) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of customer service.0



      Modified by Clownracer v2 at 11:44 PM 4-3-2009

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      04-23-2009 04:48 PM #130
      Rebuild Services (for both my SUPERchargers actually):
      1) Who did you send your charger to for a rebuild?
      KK
      2) What was the turnaround time? i.e., how many days from when you sent it out did you get it back?
      n/a- PO did it
      3) What rebuild services did you have performed? Standard rebuild, performance options, paint, etc.
      STG4+
      4) Were any repairs needed at the time of rebuild, such as apex strip groove repairs?
      Negatory.
      1) In General, are you happy with the quality of materials/workmanship?
      Yep
      2) Are you happy with the rebuilder's customer service?
      n/a - but I've talked to KK before- guys chill.
      3) Was there an improvement in charger performance (i.e. boost level) as a result of the rebuild, or as a result of the performance upgrades?
      Vroom vroom 15+ PSI (13 right now because of my slipping belt )
      4) Did the rebuild come with a warranty? If so, have you had to return the charger for warranty work? If not, why not?
      n/a since Im not the OG.
      1) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of work.
      10
      2) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of customer service.
      n/a
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      01-05-2010 03:25 PM #131
      Rebuild Services:
      1) HSM
      2) about 2 weeks
      3) It was rebuilt and porting
      4) Standard wear items
      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) It was okay. You can see it was a rush job.
      2) Customer service was horrible he only answered sales calls. If you had a charger there or wanted post-sale support... Good luck!
      3) Close to the same. Replaced the silencer and I think that helped more.
      4) It had a 6 month warranty, but started to make a funny noise right around 4 months. He said it wasn't a problem, but the noise got a lot louder after the warranty was up...
      Overall Rating:
      1) Quality of work: 3
      2) Quality of customer service: 1

    7. 05-02-2010 09:05 AM #132
      Rebuild services:
      1) top-gear-center (account name on ebay)
      2) I have bought a charger + rebuild kit, they made rebuild extra for nothing
      3) I have waited 4 hours for rebuild
      4) Was made the full rebuild, bearings, apex strips, seals, timing belt, the tuning grease.
      5) Parts were very high quality and I don't made any additional repairs after rebuild, there are normal VW parts, like were installed in original superchargers in Europe.
      Customer satisfaction:
      1) I am very happy, awesome quality and low price (the half price than in Czech Republic)
      2) yes, happy too, nice people
      3) The power trong uprised after the 100 km, and still on the same level
      4) yes, was warranty, but I won't return nothing, everything is perfect! The rebuild was made in 2009, and will made the next rebuild here too
      Overall Rating:
      1) 10
      2) 10




      Modified by TER-CZECH at 6:07 AM 5-2-2010

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      07-22-2010 01:16 PM #133
      Thanks again to all of you people for your business and support in the G60 department, we appreciate it!
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      08-11-2010 09:02 PM #134
      got mine rebuilt in February..... Just finally got it on there.

      Rebuild Services:
      1) Who did you send your charger to for a rebuild? Kompressor Kanada
      2) What was the turnaround time? i.e., how many days from when you sent it out did you get it back?
      think about a week or 2, went from stock to stage 4 and got it polished
      3) What rebuild services did you have performed? Standard rebuild, performance options, paint, etc.
      complete rebuild with german parts, porting of flow chamber, polished fins, Polished knife edged outlet fins, buffed internal casing and polished flow chamber
      4) Were any repairs needed at the time of rebuild, such as apex strip groove repairs?
      got new apex strips included, charger was pretty worn out, had some gouges in the casing, but he smoothed them out

      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) In General, are you happy with the quality of materials/workmanship? yes
      2) Are you happy with the rebuilder's customer service? yes
      3) Was there an improvement in charger performance (i.e. boost level) as a result of the rebuild, or as a result of the performance upgrades? having troubles with a leak, which i got before putting the new charger on
      4) Did the rebuild come with a warranty? If so, have you had to return the charger for warranty work? If not, why not? yes, no

      Overall Rating:
      1) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of work. 10
      2) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of customer service. 10

      a pic of the difference. stage 4 on left and regular on right

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      04-11-2012 12:15 PM #135
      Rebuild Services:

      1) Bahn Brenner has done my last three Glader rebuilds

      2) It was a 2-3 week turnaround on each occassion

      3) One of my gladers is a genuine TEC 2RS twin belt which BBM has rebuilt for me twice during its life span. I've also had them rebuild my spare Glader which is fully stock.
      On the TEC 2RS, I had them convert the drive belts to a single wide 19mm belt. They thoroughly clean the case and internal components and provide detailed instructions on break-in.
      In addition, on my very first rebuild, due to my own error, I crushed the steel braided lower oil feed line to the Glader and they gave me a replacement.

      4) Neither of my Gladers required repair services during the rebuild

      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) I'm very happy with their customer service, communication, and advice

      3) Performance was maintained at the same levels.

      4) My rebuild came with the BBM standard warranty

      Overall Rating:
      1) Quality of work - 10
      2) Customer service was 10
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      04-20-2012 04:11 PM #136
      I lost my TEC GT-1 due to neglect. Got busy in life and oil soaked my $8 belt. Pulling into the Del Taco drive thru at 2 mph wasn't how I expected it was going to happen.

      Rebuild Services:
      1) Who did you send your charger to for a rebuild?
      (2005) New Dimensions who secretly sent it to BBM for my 1st rebuild on a TEC GT-1. . They've done a total of 3 rebuilds on my G-Ladders since.

      2) What was the turnaround time? i.e., how many days from when you sent it out did you get it back? It took about three weeks to get from ND to BBM and back to me in CA.

      3) What rebuild services did you have performed?
      Standard rebuild back to spec for the GT-1.

      4) Were any repairs needed at the time of rebuild, such as apex strip groove repairs? Yes, the bearings were noisy on cold start up. ND had unknowingly removed all the wax like coating that covered the larger inlet TEC welded to the charger. BBM restored the finish and rebuilt GT-1 back to TEC spec's. After pressing ND they came clean on what occurred and said only they did not have the resources to rebuild it.

      After calling BBM to see what occurred they were ultra discreet until they knew ND had informed me of what had happened. They commended ND for asking for a hand and said I was well taken care of and had nothing bad to say about ND. Professional all the way around.

      Customer Satisfaction:
      1) In General, are you happy with the quality of materials/workmanship (Extremely).
      2) Are you happy with the rebuilder's customer service (Extremely).
      3) Was there an improvement in charger performance (It was back to the Orig GT-1 output).
      4) Did the rebuild come with a warranty (Yes, never had to use BBM's warranty).

      Overall Rating:
      1) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of work. TEN
      2) On a scale of 1 to 10, rate the quality of customer service. TEN

      BBM rebuilt the TEC GT-1 twice since it was purchased new in Sept 2002. My oe G-Ladder went for almost 12 years in unmodified form. Boosting these things increases service intervals 50 to 75%. All my chargers get pulled pulled through the gears consistantly between 5-6K on shifts. They not baby'd, but not punished either.

      Since I'm realistic with the G-Ladder limits I opted for another one like the TEC GT-1. BBM stands behind their stuff. They're consistently coming up with new technology to keep the G60 Corrado alive and specialize in improvements that increase performance and reliability. Here's some pics of the TEC GT-1 and a BBM VWMS w/ a full monty work over. It wont go in the car until I finish restoring the Passat moonroof conversion and replacing the fuel system with - AN type fittings and s/s braided hose. I had the G-Ladder powder coated in a chrome like finish to keep it cleaner.

      Notice the machine work on the outlet fins.


      TEC cut and then welded an aluminum inlet tube on their GT-1 conversion. This TEC GT-1 is dead and has a hole punched through the case. (below)


      BBM ported and machined theirs to the limit of 70mm.
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      10-02-2012 05:16 PM #137
      I KK still around and doing chargers?
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      10-08-2012 06:32 PM #138
      Quote Originally Posted by sprocket007 View Post
      I KK still around and doing chargers?
      I do not believe he is around as KK chargers have been coming here on a regular basis.
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      10-09-2012 09:13 PM #139
      We have a mega sale going on right now for this.....!
      Thanks to all for your business and support

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    15. 12-19-2012 10:41 PM #140
      How long is the sale on for? You'll rebuild with a widebelt and porting right? Is an aftermarket pulley okay in place of the 78mm?


      JW because if my car gets running right the next thing to go will be my charger...
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      01-04-2013 04:38 PM #141
      Quote Originally Posted by etta gli View Post
      How long is the sale on for? You'll rebuild with a widebelt and porting right? Is an aftermarket pulley okay in place of the 78mm?


      JW because if my car gets running right the next thing to go will be my charger...
      Yes, yes and yes...
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    17. 12-25-2014 02:51 AM #142
      how much is a rebuild from bbm if i already have the parts? they came with the car

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      12-30-2014 03:12 PM #143
      Quote Originally Posted by burnrubber18 View Post
      how much is a rebuild from bbm if i already have the parts? they came with the car
      Feel free to shoot me a call or email and we can go over what parts you have for a credit toward your build.
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    19. 01-14-2015 11:38 PM #144
      REBUILD SERVICES

      1) Sent Charger to Fast Lane German Tuning

      2) Sent Charger on a Monday 2 weeks later back at my door step

      3) Rebuild and Stage 3 & Wide Belt with bigger inlet for Filter

      4)No Repairs Needed

      CUSTOMER SATISFACTION:

      1)Couldn't be Happier A++++++

      2)Customer Service OUTSTANDING, TOP NOTCH, EXCELLENT

      3)Stock Charger 9lbs & Fast Lane German Charger 12PSI on Stock Motor

      4)Came with Warranty but I haven't used it.

      OVERALL RATING:

      1)10+

      2)10+
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      02-17-2015 01:54 PM #145
      Thanks to all of you that have been taking advantage of our Corrado 25th anniversary sale, you have been keeping us busy!

      We are in the market to buy good G60 G-Lader cores.
      Feel free to call me or email if you have a good core for sale, thanks
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      02-24-2015 02:40 PM #146
      Fast Lane German Tuning

      Awesome service and a great price! Sent it to them on a Friday and got I t back a week later. The prices are unbelievable and the work is fantastic. I would recommend anyone to go here. They also have hard to find bits that most other places don't have or charger an outrageous price for.

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      05-29-2015 02:24 PM #147
      I just received my supercharger back today from Johnny at BBM and I must say, the service and customer support that he provided to me throughout the entire process is absolutely unparalleled! My Dad frequented BBM for supercharger needs during his Corrado days, and thanks to the great craftsmanship and customer support, I will use JBetz @ BBM for a long time to come!
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