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    1. 12-02-2016 09:14 AM #76
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      12-02-2016 09:16 AM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoBear View Post
      I'm not sure if Wehrlein is ready. He couldn't beat Haryanto and Ocon outdrove him.



      Pure speculation from my part: Maybe Rosberg gave an ultimatum to Mercedes asking them to choose between him and Hamilton....
      Neither one of his teammates out drove him on any occasion.. What series were you watching? Pascal out qualified them both and scored Manor's only point.

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      12-02-2016 09:17 AM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoBear View Post
      He couldn't beat Haryanto and Ocon outdrove him.


      Ocon must be like --> since he already signed with Force India Worst timing ever!

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      12-02-2016 09:27 AM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by AutoBear View Post
      Toto Wolf's phone:

      Holy s***

      I bet Toto would be like: "F*** you Fernando, my doctor said I can finally lay off the ulcer medication with its side effects of erectile dysfunction. So now I could finally get some freaky time with Susie. F*** you Fernando, I'm gonna sign Pascal and take it easy!"

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      12-02-2016 09:30 AM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by bubuski View Post
      Something must have gone down the last few days.
      While this caught me by surprise too, I don't think it was anything in the last few days. I think he's burned out after 25 years in a racing seat.
      He's 31 years old and known nothing but racing since age 6. He's got all the money he needs, a family, and can concentrate on other things in his future.
      He had a full career. Congrats to him!
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      12-02-2016 09:32 AM #81
      Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
      If Wehrlein gets the seat, there won't be a lot of pressure on him and Toto could lay off the ulcer medication. But this could all change if Wehrlein is naturally fast and it's McLaren 2007 all over again
      Pressure will still cause Ulcers for Toto, Wehrlein is no slouch. Anyone remember back in 2015 Where Hamilton and Wehrlein went head to head at Mercedes Stars&Cars event..... Pascal won.

      If anyone googles Pascal name right now, everyone is suggesting he's is the rightful successor. DO IT MERCEDES!!

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      12-02-2016 09:36 AM #82
      Did not see that coming.

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      12-02-2016 09:48 AM #83
      Since F1 driver's contract theses days is are just mere suggestions, what about Bottas? Perez?

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      12-02-2016 10:06 AM #84
      Looks like we got the answer to "Will Nico don the "1" number plate in 2017"

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      12-02-2016 10:06 AM #85
      FWIW...he walked away from $43M worth of guaranteed contract money for the upcoming 2017/18 seasons. He just inked that deal ~6 months ago.

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      12-02-2016 10:11 AM #86
      Wow. This will be interesting.

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      12-02-2016 10:41 AM #87
      WTF Nico retired?

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      12-02-2016 10:45 AM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by Sump View Post
      WTF Nico retired?
      Yep! And if it made this website, it's gotta be true:

      https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...f1-racing.html

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      12-02-2016 10:55 AM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by tbvvw View Post
      Yep! And if it made this website, it's gotta be true:

      https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...f1-racing.html
      Yeah Watching the video here: https://www.facebook.com/nicorosberg...4815038619874/

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      12-02-2016 11:07 AM #90
      Quote Originally Posted by mx5er View Post
      Holy s*** At first I was like, this is a joke right? But multiple outlets are running the story.

      So does he think he doesn't have it to defend his title for 2017? If so then that's total weak sauce. Has fighting for the 2016 title drained him? How about another go at it and prove the first one wasn't a fluke? Again, weak sauce.

      I'm picturing Alonso calling his lawyers and managers right about now. But I'm betting Wehrlein getting the seat.
      honestly helps me hate him more. "i got a title, i am out"

      i don't not seen him as that great of a racer. first and foremost he was seated in the fastest car, the most reliable of the grid, and one of the best teams.

      most of the time he starts in front and happens to stay there mostly through being able to utilize 100% clean air and tire strategy. that kind of happens A LOT. the few times where we have seen him having to fight up the grid... he hasn't astounded me or others. lewis, richardo, max, vettel... all do much better pushing through the grid from the back of the pack. especially lewis and max when in the rain.

      i get it.
      he has a wife and family now.
      he has enough money.
      he got a title just like 'daddy' did.

      what happened to the spirit of the racer? did it just die when the crown hit his head? he's 31, is it REALLY time to retire just as he wins his 1st F1 championship?

      IMO no.
      he should have stayed to defend the title.
      he should have finished out his current contract.
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      12-02-2016 11:11 AM #91
      If Alonso would get the seat, given his luck switching teams, Mercedes would go back to being high mid pack team with the formula changes for 2017.

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      12-02-2016 11:12 AM #92
      Really wondering is this is all tied to the politics of Mercedes and maybe tied to Lauda and Wolff being PITA's to deal with? At least Lauda is known to be a total arrogant clown. With Hamilton even saying there was more behind the scenes mid-season you gotta wonder. Can't wait for the bits to trickle out over time as it usually does with F1.

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      12-02-2016 11:12 AM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by tbvvw View Post
      FWIW...he walked away from $43M worth of guaranteed contract money for the upcoming 2017/18 seasons. He just inked that deal ~6 months ago.
      He's maybe just had enough of dealing with Lewis at this point?
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      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      12-02-2016 11:14 AM #94
      Sub just for the sake of it.

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      12-02-2016 11:14 AM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by dunhamjr View Post
      honestly helps me hate him more. "i got a title, i am out"

      i don't not seen him as that great of a racer. first and foremost he was seated in the fastest car, the most reliable of the grid, and one of the best teams.

      most of the time he starts in front and happens to stay there mostly through being able to utilize 100% clean air and tire strategy. that kind of happens A LOT. the few times where we have seen him having to fight up the grid... he hasn't astounded me or others. lewis, richardo, max, vettel... all do much better pushing through the grid from the back of the pack. especially lewis and max when in the rain.
      How is this different than Lewis or when Vettel was with Red Bull?

      It's been said a million times, you could take the majority of drivers in F1 and put them in the fastest/best prepped car and get the same result.

      There's a reason the teammates finish in succession most races...
      Quote Originally Posted by cockerpunk View Post
      yes, i am bored by FWD driving dynamics, and anyone who doesn't drive there cars to the limits and the beyond.

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      12-02-2016 11:14 AM #96
      People can come back from retirement too ya know.

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      12-02-2016 11:15 AM #97
      He was never the top driver but he was able to take the title from Hamilton so that does mean something, I understand Hamilton had his issues. At least he did better than Button who won against Massa. He will be remembered as someone that stole a championship from one of the great drivers, even if I am not a fan of Hamilton because of the last race antics.

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      12-02-2016 11:24 AM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by amusante1002 View Post
      Seriously, I wonder what "punishment" Hamilton will get now...seems like they need him more than ever
      i get that he ignored team orders. f them!

      he still came in first.
      nico still came in second.

      my issue is that even with lewis winning the race he had NO chance to win the championship from p1. he HAD to do something else to try to cause nico to drop 2 full spots.

      so by Merc issuing team orders all race... they were basically telling lewis all race... "too bad for you, you lose because we said so, no GIVE the championship over to nico without any sort of fight".
      again. f them!


      MAYBE if lewis not following team orders had caused nico to get crashed out (not overtaken)... OR if by doing so, LEWIS got overtake by Ferrari or RB... OR if Lewis got crashed out as a result.
      THEN i could see them punishing him.

      but as it sits. he did what he could to win the championship. and the teams results were NO different than if he had run faster.

      this is a team sport. the DRIVER is part of the team as well, yeah? shouldn't THEY have a say in what the team/car is doing on track?
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      12-02-2016 11:27 AM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
      How is this different than Lewis or when Vettel was with Red Bull?

      It's been said a million times, you could take the majority of drivers in F1 and put them in the fastest/best prepped car and get the same result.

      There's a reason the teammates finish in succession most races...
      its different because of what i have already said.
      IMO. rosberg doesnt do as well working through the grid from the back of the pack as those other drivers named.

      i am not talking about just this year either. i am talking about the last 5-6 years.
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    25. 12-02-2016 11:30 AM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie View Post
      How is this different than Lewis or when Vettel was with Red Bull?

      It's been said a million times, you could take the majority of drivers in F1 and put them in the fastest/best prepped car and get the same result.

      There's a reason the teammates finish in succession most races...
      The difference is he won less races and poles than his teammate this year; he was outdriven by his teammate while Vettel and Hamilton were clearly not.

      Im not surprised that the same people who criticized Hamilton for his 'never say die' mentality are perfectly comfortable with Rosberg quitting and not defending his title. Hopefully Alonso can wiggle his way into Mercedes so Lewis can have a real battle on his hands. He was going to absolutely destroy Nico next year anyway and it looks like nico was fully aware.

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